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Nutsngum posted:This is a pretty garbage way of thinking mate. If you accept that then why ever bother with the football again? You literally just hosed off one entertainment industry whilst going on about signing up to another. quote:As one of those pricks who is in an essential service and still gets paid shitasticly I say bring on the loving football. Your right to yell at the tv on a friday night doesnt stack up against the right of a kid to see their dad or a partner to have their co-parent around. quote:If there is an actual feasible method to do this that isnt actually risky then I dont see an issue. Meanwhile, there are thousands and thousands of jobs out there where people dont see their families for months and months on end. If the individual players want to opt out, fine they can cut their pay further and sit it out. Yeah, there definitely wont be any unreasonable pressure on players and families to agree to this dumb idea from - teammates - coaches and support staff - the league - broadcasters - the media - dickhead fans who think theyre owed footy As well some players pressuring their family to go along with it. It’s totally up to each and every player and their family to decide on their own terms  gently caress you and your entitled bullshit telling players and their families to separate so you can watch them chase a ball around because you’re bored. Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 7, 2020 |
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For context, ive got a 7month old now. Say work told me that to support the company I need to fly out of state for the next three months and stay there. I’d consider it a bit, because I do actually feel the work I do is making a meaningful contribution. But I can pretty much guarantee I’d tell them no thanks, I’ll take a pay cut, use my leave, or ultimately look for a new job and make things work in the meantime. My wife would almost certainly feel the same way. I’m in a privileged position that I can do that without us being out on the street, but I don’t think the fact that others don’t have that choice should force me to do it. Unlike an AFL player, I wouldn’t feel pressured to go along with the plan because I won’t have hundreds of people in the industry and media, and millions of people at large calling me a soft entitled oval office for putting my family ahead of other peoples boredom. It would be even worse with older kids, because they are already stressed the gently caress out about this situation. Taking a parent away on top of that for no good reason? gently caress that Yes, there are other people whose livelihoods depend on the players playing. Thats not on the players though. Thats on those peoples employers for ensuring they can survive disruptions, and on all levels of government to provide a safety net if they do fall over. Asking the players to step in because employers and government have failed in their duties is hosed. I do think its reasonable to expect the players to take a pay cut (some of them will have pretty significant fixed costs like expensive mortgages but  I guess), but the hubs idea is bullshit
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Solemn Sloth posted:Love to tell players they cant see their family or kids because god forbid there not be football for a while longer THe only families that matter: Victorian families
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MysticalMachineGun posted:THe only families that matter: Victorian families He’s obviously against hubs regardless of where they are
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realbez posted:He’s obviously against hubs regardless of where they are Well I see that NOW
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MysticalMachineGun posted:THe only families that matter: Victorian families I’m just as against running a hub in Victoria but thanks for playing
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You guys are expecting a lot wanting me to read the whole thread before posting kneejerk replies
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MysticalMachineGun posted:You guys are expecting a lot wanting me to read the whole thread before posting kneejerk replies I can totally respect this position
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I think there's a balance to be struck but I'm not sure where the line is. When all the sports shows talk to the players they say they're keen to just play football but of course they'd be saying that - the media management seems to turn most players into rehearsed line spitting zombies anyway
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Is it an opt-in system? Is it a "wait until restrictions are lifted" case? Or is it "gently caress this noise, see you in 2021"?
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Is it an opt-in system? Is it a "wait until restrictions are lifted" case? Or is it "gently caress this noise, see you in 2021"? I can’t see a world in which an opt-in system is truly opt-in (for both players and families,The impact is if anything bigger on the family than the player) given the pressure that will be on players to participate.
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An opt-in system would also lead to unfair advantages for some teams over others, depending on age profiles of lists, where players live, etc. The best thing to do is just wait until next year, but looks like the AFL will try to resume as soon as enough restrictions are lifted nationally.
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They won’t wait until next year unless forced to. They will try to get a season in, but I don’t think they need to do hubs yet. Just wait a couple more months and see what happens with travel restrictions
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lol, reveal yourself poster https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/29139861/afl-biased-towards-victorian-clubs
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Solemn Sloth posted:
Go gently caress yourself you sanctimonious rear end. There are dozen of loving industries that go through much harder loving times and issues then footballers being asked to perhaps do 18 weeks if they loving want to. Your entire life right now is based around raising a 7month which no doubt takes all your time. How about you think about the hundreds of thousands of people out there who have no family nor friends to see and are otherwise living in total isolation and slowly getting more and more depressed with their situation where just perhaps the football may be one glimmer of breaking this poo poo loving cycle. So basically gently caress off you rear end in a top hat.
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Nutsngum posted:perhaps the football may be one glimmer of breaking this poo poo loving cycle. You're a loving saints supporter you delusional idiot
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I reckon someone's kid should go 5 months without seeing their dad when they're already stressed out because the whole world around them is changing, so that I, a well adjusted person, can watch fresh sports.
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Well... I do crave fresh sports
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realbez posted:Well... I do crave fresh blood
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footy is bad actually
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Chairchucker posted:footy is bad actually 
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Chairchucker posted:footy is bad actually THANKYOU
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It'll probably be a severely truncated season - by the sounds of it we may get start getting games without crowds in around early July, although that's going to be one hell of a squeeze - possibly using conferences and a shortened finals series and some teams won't even meet this year.
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I thought they were happy to play well past the usual end date if it came to that?
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They're kind of constrained to October because - T20 World Cup (if that's still a goer) - if they finish any later that starts pushing out the 2021 season as well.
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I’ve seen mentions of a December grand final, so I’m not sure they are too worried about other sports this year. I doubt any international competition is going ahead this year, either.
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The crows have been cautioned by SA police for breaking SA’s quarantine rules, and have apologised to the AFL (sorry VFL)
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realbez posted:I’ve seen mentions of a December grand final, so I’m not sure they are too worried about other sports this year. I doubt any international competition is going ahead this year, either. Lol at playing a GF in the hottest part of the year.
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And the networks get the night GF they have wanted since forever
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They have no stadiums in December. MCG & Docklands are both locked down by BBL. Kardinia Park also has some BBL.
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The concept of a hub isn’t a bad idea per se to get footy happening again. However, you can’t enforce those kinds of workplace conditions on someone with a months notice, especially for a job where that has never happened for the profession. People in the army, FIFO workers, and international sports people know what they’re getting into and can arrange their lives, and their families lives to prepare and deal with the extended separation. If the WA and SA clubs are going to be expected to make a long term “camp” in Melbourne, then the AFL need to be prepared to bring families and the necessary support to make sure the disruption can be minimised as much as possible for everyone involved, players/coaches/trainers/doctors/physios/etc. Melbourne is full of nice, empty, Airbnbs at the moment. And getting sand in your jocks about it being a disadvantage for SA and WA teams, as a Freo supporter I don’t really care tbh. I’d just like to see some footy. And who knows, maybe being isolated together as a club in Melbourne might galvanise one of the 4 sides and produce an amazing story in a really weird season. I think from memory, Gil has said he’s happy for AFL grand final to be played up to and including 31st of December.
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Largepotato posted:They have no stadiums in December. You could play matches at places like Arden St, they’ve got immaculate surfaces and don’t have any cricket on them. You don’t need a stadium if no one can attend. Also, international cricket probably won’t happen, which will also massively effect the BBL as you will be missing a large number of players.
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https://twitter.com/TitusOReily/status/1258328797960523776
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MysticalMachineGun posted:lol, reveal yourself poster Clearly it's Kane Cornes.
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How good are soft drinks?
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soft drinks are bad actually
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NPR Journalizard posted:Lol at playing a GF in the hottest part of the year. A christmas day grand final, post lunch 2:30 bounce get around it Australia.
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fatman posted:A christmas day grand final, post lunch 2:30 bounce get around it Australia. But won’t someone think of the families of the players? They didn’t sign up for this? And sure, players can opt out, but can they truly?
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