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Mutanity is officially a nation and the drugs are the chief export. Mutants arr immortal. The books are drat good to boot.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:At the start of Hickman's run all mutants have moved to Krakoa and set up their own country and have given humanity various superdrugs like a universal antibiotic and a lifespan extender. I don't think it's about causing massive destruction. They're giving countries incentives to not attack them like what always happens when mutants gather in one place by making a deal to give them stuff that will improve their lives in exchange for recognizing them and agreeing to not attack. They're using the drugs to get themselves a seat at the table. Then once they're in, they can cause massive economic ruin if countries reneg on the deal and attack them.
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May 4, 2020 22:54
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Someone post the Magneto speech. Basically mutants figured out the best way to fight humanity is capitalism.
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May 4, 2020 23:02
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    EDIT: X-Men #4. This is like the casino issue of Hickman’s Avengers where you can read it completely divorced from the rest of the series and still have a great time. Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 23:37 on May 4, 2020 |
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May 4, 2020 23:32
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Dawgstar posted:Having a magic cure for COVID would no doubt go down almost as well as the Wakandans having the cure for cancer so I hope they just ignore it. There's a reason it spread and persisted so easily here where it's been manageable elsewhere. These are all serious issues we encounter in real life that wouldn't go away just from a magic cure, and actually do play into the themes of some of these books. I can absolutely see Krakoa or Wakanda or even the FF giving drugs to the US, but its healthcare system is so hosed up that this doesn't actually solve the problem. I mean. In theory.
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May 4, 2020 23:45
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Dawgstar posted:Having a magic cure for COVID would no doubt go down almost as well as the Wakandans having the cure for cancer so I hope they just ignore it. The longer it goes on and the more it impacts our society, the weirder it's gonna be if they ignore it.
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May 5, 2020 00:13
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Open Marriage Night posted:They’re still helping millions upon millions of people. They’re just not eliminating cancer or giving everyone super powers. I meant help with COVID 19 specifically, but somehow left that part out.
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May 5, 2020 02:54
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Lurdiak posted:The longer it goes on and the more it impacts our society, the weirder it's gonna be if they ignore it. It would feel weird to read a comic when the reader has been negatively impacted by the virus, perhaps by having had to stay in the hospital or watching their place of business go under or even losing somebody to it and then read how Sauron decided he wanted to cure the coronavirus AND turn people into dinosaurs or any other super-science solution.
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May 5, 2020 03:19
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I honestly have zero idea how they can bring it into comics without just getting at "why haven't Reed/Krakoa/Doom/whoever immediately cured it" territory. I will also admit I'm not particularly creative, but unless they just go straight to Analogue Super-Virus, it just doesn't really seem like it would work too well.
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May 5, 2020 03:26
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Let them come up with a cure, but also have clinics trails, animal testing, human testing, etc, making it a non-instant cure. You wouldn't want to put out a test that mutates whoever takes it. (Note to self: Villian who taints or switches the cure for something that does the mutations to discredit the hero?)
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May 5, 2020 03:44
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Peter beats up Richards until he gives him the cure that hasn't been fully tested yet, and two issues later Aunt May is the new Captain Universe again.
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May 5, 2020 03:46
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Endless Mike posted:I honestly have zero idea how they can bring it into comics without just getting at "why haven't Reed/Krakoa/Doom/whoever immediately cured it" territory. I will also admit I'm not particularly creative, but unless they just go straight to Analogue Super-Virus, it just doesn't really seem like it would work too well. Spider-man is going to catch it stopping a mugger and it will end with him having to be put on a ventilator. What else is there to do? They will absolutely have to do a 9/11 style commemorative issue, and some books dealing with people having hardships related to it will definitely have some potential to be interesting. All in all though Covid 19 is too boring in a super hero world. Something where most sufferers have limited/no symptoms and most people don't ultimately have it at all is not thrilling reading. They can't use super science to cure it because of the devastating real death toll much like Captain Marvel will never get to come back for real because cancer is a real terrible thing to have died of. I just expect more masks in crowd shots.
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May 5, 2020 11:56
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If the virus affects 616 America the way it affects the real one does that mean Trump is President in the comics?
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May 5, 2020 11:58
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IUG posted:Let them come up with a cure, but also have clinics trails, animal testing, human testing, etc, making it a non-instant cure. I mean, again: unless the cure they come up with is "Reed presses a button on a machine, ionizing the entire planet's atmosphere and oceans to destroy all COVID-19 instantly," then the problem is not actually solved. And because he, in canon, has not done that for stuff like cancer or HIV, we can easily conceive that something on that scale is just not achievable for him. So what we're left with is that a cure could exist, but it has to go through testing and trials -- how does it effect people of different age ranges? Different demographics? Different preexisting medical conditions? -- which would take time, and then having to work through the modern healthcare system to provide this treatment to...[checks notes]...literally everyone on the planet. All the while the heroes would have to deal with interference from supervillains wanting to profit from the situation or, heck even just regular villains doing so. Would it be hard to believe that actual governments would rather have their own people sick and quarantined as long as it means they get to stick it to the mutants? The Wakandans? There's a lot of valid stories that could come from this, if done right, and I think it deserves to be scrutinized instead of brushed off. I can imagine Al Ewing having a lot to say, for instance, in the pages of Hulk or Valkyrie.
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May 5, 2020 13:17
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I'd be willing to bet they just use it like they used Scourge, they'll off some minor super villains that were lovely in the first place (Ringer, Turner D. Century, whoever the current Stilt-Man or Stilt-Woman is) and then have someone else take over their roles like they were crappy franchises.. I see this as Magneto being so ridiculously bored and in control of his powers that he now chooses to channel his power through seemingly harmless household utensils. He then proceeds to take down the Rhino using nothing but a bent paper clip. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 15:10 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 15:02
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MorningMoon posted:Peter beats up Richards until he gives him the cure that hasn't been fully tested yet, and two issues later Aunt May is the Much better
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May 5, 2020 19:14
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Lobok posted:If the virus affects 616 America the way it affects the real one does that mean Trump is President in the comics? The President is usually whoever the actual president is. Which means Obama was the one who put Norman Osborne in charge of national security.
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May 5, 2020 19:22
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Skwirl posted:The President is usually whoever the actual president is. Which means Obama was the one who put Norman Osborne in charge of national security. Actually I think there was an issue of Thunderbolts where Obama more-or-less says to Norman's face it was done by W on his way out of the door, which sorta made sense with the publication dates at the time. Although now due to sliding timescale, technically now he did.
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May 5, 2020 19:26
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Skwirl posted:The President is usually whoever the actual president is. Which means Obama was the one who put Norman Osborne in charge of national security. By default it's usually good to assume that but I get the sense it has not been outright confirmed yet? He definitely hasn't made an appearance like Obama did. That would have made the headlines.
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May 5, 2020 19:48
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They usually shadow the presidents face, but it’s varying degrees of obvious in who it is supposed to be. I don’t know how often they’ve done it with Trump though. Not many writers want to put him in their book because the villain of the story would look like the lesser evil.
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May 5, 2020 21:24
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Open Marriage Night posted:They usually shadow the presidents face, but it’s varying degrees of obvious in who it is supposed to be. I don’t know how often they’ve done it with Trump though. Not many writers want to put him in their book because the villain of the story would look like the lesser evil. "You HAVE to vote Osborn. He's not *&@$#!"
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May 5, 2020 21:36
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Nevvy Z posted:"You HAVE to vote Osborn. He's not *&@$#!" He could throw me off a bridge and I'd still vote for him. 
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May 5, 2020 23:09
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Bananaquiter posted:He could throw me off a bridge and I'd still vote for him. real Boomer Lib energy here
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May 5, 2020 23:18
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Marvel is trimming their COVID retail schedule by releasing single issues of their lower-selling books as digital exclusives https://www.comicsbeat.com/marvel-going-digital-only-with-select-single-issues/ Wednesday, May 13: ANT-MAN #4 AVENGERS OF THE WASTELANDS #4 GHOST-SPIDER #9 RAVENCROFT #4 Wednesday, May 20: 2020 IRONHEART #1 MARVEL’S SPIDER-MAN: THE BLACK CAT STRIKES #4 HAWKEYE: FREEFALL #5 STAR #4
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May 6, 2020 22:37
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Wow that sucks. I don't get any of those books, but they should at least finish those story arcs in print for the people who collected the first few issues.
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May 7, 2020 03:12
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IUG posted:Wow that sucks. I don't get any of those books, but they should at least finish those story arcs in print for the people who collected the first few issues. Ant-man, no! Still, most customers won't notice these titles vanishing except the die hard for the specific characters. I wonder why this run of Spider-Gwen just dropped like a rock in sales.
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May 7, 2020 03:30
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Ant-man, no! Ghost-Spider is a weird name, maybe?
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May 7, 2020 03:35
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Yeah, it definitely didn't help but I am still surprised. I think there being such a vast number of Spider books didn't help though.
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May 7, 2020 03:49
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They've also put out another bunch of free books.
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Skwirl posted:The President is usually whoever the actual president is. Which means Obama was the one who put Norman Osborne in charge of national security. They just need to use this guy. https://youtu.be/HSS_IzRzdnU
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May 7, 2020 11:19
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Yeah, it definitely didn't help but I am still surprised. I think there being such a vast number of Spider books didn't help though. It feels like they've worked hard to take away everything that made Gwen unique. Giving her kind of a clunky code name and slotting her into the 616 were probably not the best moves. Gwen's dialogue felt... punchier when Robbie Rodriguez wrote her, too.
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Dawgstar posted:It feels like they've worked hard to take away everything that made Gwen unique. Giving her kind of a clunky code name and slotting her into the 616 were probably not the best moves. Gwen's dialogue felt... punchier when Robbie Rodriguez wrote her, too. I won't disagree that the Ghost Spider moniker is..a departure, but it's also mostly external branding since it isn't like she has a secret identity on her Earth. However, I think most of the problems, such as they are, with the current series stem from the Latour/Rodriguez run. The secret origin of Gwen's powers followed very quickly by evil Cindy Moon stripping her of them, followed in short order by Gwenom and that interminable Matt Murderock arc sapped a lot of my enthusiasm for the book. So the current iteration is much more what I was looking for, and I'm curious where McGuire is going with the current Johnny and Sue Storm arc. Plus, Miyazawa and Ig Guara are doing great work.
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howe_sam posted:I won't disagree that the Ghost Spider moniker is..a departure, but it's also mostly external branding since it isn't like she has a secret identity on her Earth. However, I think most of the problems, such as they are, with the current series stem from the Latour/Rodriguez run. The secret origin of Gwen's powers followed very quickly by evil Cindy Moon stripping her of them, followed in short order by Gwenom and that interminable Matt Murderock arc sapped a lot of my enthusiasm for the book. So the current iteration is much more what I was looking for, and I'm curious where McGuire is going with the current Johnny and Sue Storm arc. Plus, Miyazawa and Ig Guara are doing great work. I lost interest in the book around this point. I think the way it tried really hard to make Gwen's life miserable and leave her feeling powerless a lot of the time soured me on the book. And while the bios on the alternate-universe counterparts of 616 heroes was neat, it kind of felt like the stories mentioned there were more interesting than what actually happens in the story. But hearing it's got a new team working on it makes me want to give it a shot again, so thanks.
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Yeah I think ultimately the root issue is that "what makes Gwen unique" was pretty thoroughly stomped out by her own creators by the time that run was over
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Blockhouse posted:Yeah I think ultimately the root issue is that "what makes Gwen unique" was pretty thoroughly stomped out by her own creators by the time that run was over I really liked the idea behind the stuff with Matt Murdock, but that arc felt so long I eventually stopped reading regularly
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amigolupus posted:I lost interest in the book around this point. I think the way it tried really hard to make Gwen's life miserable and leave her feeling powerless a lot of the time soured me on the book. And while the bios on the alternate-universe counterparts of 616 heroes was neat, it kind of felt like the stories mentioned there were more interesting than what actually happens in the story. But hearing it's got a new team working on it makes me want to give it a shot again, so thanks. Yeah, McGuire's been pretty great. She also correctly dunks on The Jackal for being one of the creepiest supervillains ever. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 17:33 on May 8, 2020 |
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May 8, 2020 16:24
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Yvonmukluk posted:Yeah, McGuire's been pretty great. The genetics teacher who clones and brainwashes teenage co-eds is creepy?
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May 9, 2020 08:57
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Yeah I don't think that was some sort of accident of writing on Gerry Conway's part.
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oh my god savage avengers is incredible and conan being in the marvel universe and everyone having to deal with him mega owns owns owns im glad its not sticking to the same cast but rather rotating conan with the poor idiots who get dragged into his poo poo
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Fereydun posted:oh my god savage avengers is incredible and conan being in the marvel universe and everyone having to deal with him mega owns owns owns Conan, Strange, and Doom teaming up while Conan completely despises them for being sorcerers was loving great. The ending of the team up was perfect.
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