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taqueso posted:Is there a half-height pcie card that holds 4 m2 SSDs, 2 on each side? Gigabyte CMT4034 https://www.gigabyte.com/Accessory/CMT4034-rev-10/sp#sp Probably not spec compliant on the B side height!
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Nice. Being out of spec had me worried no one would make one.
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# ? May 1, 2020 00:55 |
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taqueso posted:Nice. Being out of spec had me worried no one would make one. Keep in mind that only works with motherboards / chipsets that support pcie bifrucation. There's also this thing but the price is "if you have to ask..."
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# ? May 1, 2020 01:05 |
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Thanks for the warning, I'll have to investigate bifurcation. Might need UEFI modules or some crap
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# ? May 1, 2020 01:13 |
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Hey what's a latest gen NVMe SSD at 1-2TB that's not necessarily the fastest but will do a great job for my media pc and won't crap itself? (I LIKE MY MP3s TO LOAD UP SUPER FAST)
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# ? May 1, 2020 01:16 |
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I'm also looking at grabbing a new drive and I was wondering about an NVMe M2 drive. I'm currently running everything off a Samsung QVO 860 drive and I only recently heard that the QVO line can have performance issues driving it down to normal HDD level. I could get a another SATA SSD but well, I had issues with my drive rack in my case and I'm not sure where it is exactly. I do have a nice M2 slot open on my motherboard though. I was looking at the Crucial P1 drives. Probably the 500 GB one since I can get it for $116 AUD and the other brands seem more expensive for an equivalent size. Anything wrong with them or are they still good?
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# ? May 1, 2020 01:56 |
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Mysticblade posted:I'm also looking at grabbing a new drive and I was wondering about an NVMe M2 drive. I'm currently running everything off a Samsung QVO 860 drive and I only recently heard that the QVO line can have performance issues driving it down to normal HDD level. I could get a another SATA SSD but well, I had issues with my drive rack in my case and I'm not sure where it is exactly. I do have a nice M2 slot open on my motherboard though. Crucial P1 is also a QLC drive. However, QLC isn't totally random about when it drops performance. As long as it has SLC cache space they stay SSD fast. The way that it runs out of SLC cache is during sustained large writes -- if you copy a 100GB file to your drive it'll slow way down at some point, and be kinda poky for a while as it digests all that data and moves it into QLC space. For most of us a 100GB write isn't an everyday thing. However, SLC cache shrinks as the drive fills up. When the drive gets close to full you may have problems more often. So if you try to keep it under ~75% total space used you'll have better performance using it as a main system drive. But if you want to get a new NVMe drive, and keep the QVO as a secondary / games drive (for which they're fine, their performance problems are all from writes), good choices are: WD SN750, HP EX920 / EX950, Adata XPG SX8200 All these are roughly the same performance, all are TLC and have dram, choose whatever's cheapest or in stock. Kane posted:Hey what's a latest gen NVMe SSD at 1-2TB that's not necessarily the fastest but will do a great job for my media pc and won't crap itself? This, however, is perfectly suited for a Crucial P1 or Intel 660p. (As would be a normal sata drive.)
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# ? May 1, 2020 02:17 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Are you worried it's too slow or something? Klyith posted:Are the mediocre $/GB prices for Transcend stuff on amazon too off-putting? $50 for a 256gb isn't ideal, but at least Transcend is a reliable if very unexciting brand. And that's using half of the drive. Not mega fast compared to high-end NVMe stuff but the important part is that the machine is now snappy again because it doesn't choke on any writes (and it boots)
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# ? May 1, 2020 11:49 |
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Just had a 850 evo poo poo the bed. I was able to grab the data off of it, just once. Very sad.
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# ? May 1, 2020 14:32 |
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God dammit I low balled an ebay recycler for a lot of 8x 850 Evo 250Gs at $25 a pop(!) and he agreed and sent me an offer on it at 3am local time. I woke up a 6 and someone bought them already. FFS.
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# ? May 1, 2020 18:26 |
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Is there a current list of drives that happen to be DRAM-LESS? Also, do dram-less drives tend to have TLC/QLC on the chips, wasn't certain if it makes a difference or not.
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# ? May 1, 2020 22:34 |
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Oh man I was just on a DB of that info yesterday. I'm seeing if I can find it in history
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# ? May 1, 2020 22:38 |
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taqueso posted:Oh man I was just on a DB of that info yesterday. I'm seeing if I can find it in history Thank you!
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# ? May 1, 2020 22:50 |
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/htmlview#gid=0
taqueso fucked around with this message at 00:41 on May 2, 2020 |
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Nice, that’s a useful spreadsheet!
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# ? May 1, 2020 23:56 |
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taqueso posted:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/htmlview#gid=0 https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/ Their subreddit too
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# ? May 2, 2020 01:29 |
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Shaocaholica posted:I just want everything to be toolless cartridges. EVERYTHING. Welcome to the present. last time I needed a screwdriver to service something inside of a server, I think I was replacing the main board.
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# ? May 4, 2020 09:23 |
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Potato Salad posted:Welcome to the present. 'Server'. Consumer junk is still sloppy tolerance and philips heads all the way down.
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# ? May 4, 2020 09:27 |
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If I buy a Gen 4 PCIe NVMe drive is it sure to max out the Gen 3 bus and leave some performance on the table, and would that likely be faster than getting a good Gen 3 drive?
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# ? May 5, 2020 08:34 |
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Cavauro posted:If I buy a Gen 4 PCIe NVMe drive is it sure to max out the Gen 3 bus and leave some performance on the table, and would that likely be faster than getting a good Gen 3 drive? I'd say no, because you're rarely going to be maxing the PCIe bus out.
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# ? May 5, 2020 12:53 |
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If I'm replacing a failing SSD in an old Sandy Bridge Thinkpad, is there any reason to spend $89 on a Samsung 860 vs $54 on an Inland Pro 2.5" SSD? The current drive is only 240GB, so I'm replacing with a 480GB/500GB. It's barely half full as is, so I don't see any reason to go larger.
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# ? May 9, 2020 16:38 |
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PitViper posted:If I'm replacing a failing SSD in an old Sandy Bridge Thinkpad, is there any reason to spend $89 on a Samsung 860 vs $54 on an Inland Pro 2.5" SSD? The current drive is only 240GB, so I'm replacing with a 480GB/500GB. It's barely half full as is, so I don't see any reason to go larger. No
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# ? May 9, 2020 17:07 |
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Welp, my 1tb poo poo the bed (or will shortly) and I need to replace it. Thinking of a 500gb ssd. Anyone have any good/cheap recommendation? The old one is a regular drive, and I'm mainly gonna be storing my ebooks on the new one. Calibre has been rebuilding my library for a few days now so I'm assuming the bottleneck is the old drive, so I'd like to replace it kinda quick. Don't have a particular budget but I'd like to stay around 40-50 if possible. I have no idea of these are ok to buy second hand, but if they are, let me know and I'll start cruising ebay.
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# ? May 9, 2020 17:09 |
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Check these bad boys out. msata for scale
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# ? May 9, 2020 23:31 |
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Wow, I've got an mSATA in my old T420, but you win for fattest SSD PCB1.
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# ? May 10, 2020 00:03 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Welp, my 1tb poo poo the bed (or will shortly) and I need to replace it. Thinking of a 500gb ssd. Anyone have any good/cheap recommendation? The old one is a regular drive, and I'm mainly gonna be storing my ebooks on the new one. Calibre has been rebuilding my library for a few days now so I'm assuming the bottleneck is the old drive, so I'd like to replace it kinda quick. You generally do not want second hand SSDs. SSDs are no longer expensive enough to warrant any real savings over new drives and you don't know what the controllers have been put through.
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# ? May 10, 2020 02:13 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Check these bad boys out. Lol these SSDs suck balls. But they are the only ones that fit and I can’t find any mSATA adapters with the right mounting holes. I guess I could do it all floppy but I already have these that fit.
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# ? May 10, 2020 03:21 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:Which kind of drive, SATA or NVME? Oh, poo poo, yea that info would have helped. SATA is what I'm looking for. Don't have an NVME port. Stupid_Sexy_Flander fucked around with this message at 07:56 on May 10, 2020 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Oh, poo poo, yea that info would have helped. SATA is what I'm looking for. Don't have an NVME port. https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-SU800-512GB-3D-NAND-ASU800SS-512GT-C/dp/B01K8A29CS/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M3Z3UC2/
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# ? May 10, 2020 08:51 |
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Cool. Snagged a WD Blue 3d off Best Buy for 64.99 and got same day delivery since I really don't want to drive all the way out there. Hopefully by tonight, I'll have all this poo poo settled and be able to get back to reading. Thanks for the help!
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# ? May 10, 2020 09:48 |
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My gaming PC has an X570 motherboard and I was thinking of getting an NVMe drive to replace my SATA SSD. Is there anything out there now that will keep parity with what the PS5 and Xbox Series X will offer when they release, or is it better holding off for now? There's a 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 that supposedly boasts 5000 MB/s reads, but I'm not really familiar with that brand or how reliable they are.
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Almost Smart posted:My gaming PC has an X570 motherboard and I was thinking of getting an NVMe drive to replace my SATA SSD. Is there anything out there now that will keep parity with what the PS5 and Xbox Series X will offer when they release, or is it better holding off for now? There's a 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 that supposedly boasts 5000 MB/s reads, but I'm not really familiar with that brand or how reliable they are. Nobody knows what the new consoles are cooking up or what impact it will have on PCs, besides pre-release marketing, which is always best taken with a handful of salt. Mise hold off for now.
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Some Goon posted:Nobody knows what the new consoles are cooking up or what impact it will have on PCs, besides pre-release marketing, which is always best taken with a handful of salt. Mise hold off for now.
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Almost Smart posted:My gaming PC has an X570 motherboard and I was thinking of getting an NVMe drive to replace my SATA SSD. Is there anything out there now that will keep parity with what the PS5 and Xbox Series X will offer when they release, or is it better holding off for now? There's a 2TB Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 that supposedly boasts 5000 MB/s reads, but I'm not really familiar with that brand or how reliable they are. The current pcie 4.0 consumer drives (sabrent, adata, corsair) pretty much all use the same Phison controller and it is fine, basically their last gen controller with the addition of gen4. They will be putting out a new one shortly (or have) that will come closer to gen4 line rate speeds (so over 7GB/s reads) as it has been designed with the faster interface in mind. Ditto the upcoming samsung one. As far as reliability goes I’m sure they’re fine. Not a lot that can happen with no moving parts as long as it isn’t DOA!
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# ? May 10, 2020 18:53 |
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So how many nand dies do you need to saturate pcie4? What’s the minimum capacity with current production then?
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# ? May 11, 2020 01:16 |
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Shaocaholica posted:So how many nand dies do you need to saturate pcie4? What’s the minimum capacity with current production then? The previous phison controller supported 800MT/s standard (onfi 4 I think) from NAND and the next ones will do 1200MT/s (onfi 4.1) so +50% with the same number of flash chips.
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# ? May 11, 2020 01:34 |
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Wait are current gen nvme controllers not fully tapping the nand or are you saying next gen nand will also be +50% more bandwidth?
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# ? May 11, 2020 01:50 |
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Shaocaholica posted:Wait are current gen nvme controllers not fully tapping the nand or are you saying next gen nand will also be +50% more bandwidth? No, Phison stuff isn't fully tapping the theoretical max of the NAND interface as 8 channels at 800MT/s (8 bit) should be 6400MB/s but the PCIe interface maxes out at 5000MB/s. However the 6400MB/s flash interface wouldn't max out the PCIe interface of Gen4x4 either. With the newer E18 the transfer rate to the NAND goes up to 1200MB/s per channel which should saturate the PCIe link but it tops out at 7000MB/s which is close but not saturating it either (probably would want to see more in the range of 7.7GB/s with the various PCIe/NVMe overhead). I would guess they have limitations in their onboard CPU in a price/performance tradeoff. This isn't a huge deal for Phison because it's still way faster than any other current consumer drive being the only one right now and even the 980Pro is claiming read speeds less than 7GB/s (6.5). Enterprise drives will get way closer to max PCIe speeds though due to a combination of more NAND controller channels (upwards of 32) and plentiful RAM caching. There is a reason why enterprise NVMe drives are $texas!
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# ? May 11, 2020 04:53 |
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If money isn't an issue, is it a good idea to get an Optane 0.5-1tb drive for Windows/general purpose computing/gaming or is it overkill? Will the difference be felt? (I despise all computer lags in every part of the process)
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Kane posted:If money isn't an issue, is it a good idea to get an Optane 0.5-1tb drive for Windows/general purpose computing/gaming or is it overkill? Will the difference be felt? (I despise all computer lags in every part of the process) No
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