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Milo and POTUS posted:This guy shocked by Whitesville has never heard of a lynchburg I guess The super weird thing about this is that Lynchburg's founder is the brother of the guy that lynching was probably named for.
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There's a "Whitehaven" in Memphis. It has very few white people now, but it was honky city back before the civil rights era. Graceland is there.
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Godholio posted:The super weird thing about this is that Lynchburg's founder is the brother of the guy that lynching was probably named for. if your family has a thing named after you, you already have a leg up in name recognition 
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:There's a "Whitehaven" in Memphis. It has very few white people now, but it was honky city back before the civil rights era. Crackerville, FL.
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So Air Force 2 just became SAM672 mid-flight. Kinda weird. Currently 35k over western Massachusetts, heading NNE.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So Air Force 2 just became SAM672 mid-flight. Kinda weird. Does is stop being Air Force 2 when the VP steps off it or leaves this mortal coil?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So Air Force 2 just became SAM672 mid-flight. Kinda weird. VP finishing his jump qual.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:So Air Force 2 just became SAM672 mid-flight. Kinda weird.  penceor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdaeVone5qA
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ManMythLegend posted:So an armed mob of white men that came to do violence on a minority for crimes real or imagined can't be called a "lynch mob" because they didn't succeed for whatever reason? I scanned a few different articles and didn't read anything that the people in the mob were planning to kill the guy. Changing the definition to turn a mob into a lynching if someone is armed debases the word and minimizes the magnitude of what lynching is. AreWeDrunkYet posted:lol, Schrodinger's lynch mob. Still too short answer: And here we get to another part of the problem. We have to make decisions about people's intent with imperfect information every day. In criminal law, the people in the system have to make those same decisions, except the consequences of getting it wrong are usually much higher. Intent is usually 'proved' by inferences based on facts built up to reach a reasonable conclusion. What I have seen with Trumpy Thought (what you're advocating) is that people start with their prejudices, reach a feeling about what must have happened, and decide that that is their conclusion. It scares the crap out of me, because how do you teach jurors how to think to a conclusion rather than lazily check their gut (which the prosecutor has told them is just 'common sense') in 45 minutes? Jailer Jim-Bob having a gun absent, other evidence, like a yell of kill the _, or string him up, or someone with a rope or can of gasoline, or reminding a mob member that they're meeting up again at [the dead end of some dirt road somewhere] doesn't get you to a lynch mob or a lynching. Trumpy Thought hurts minorities more than it does elites (auto correct put in whiteys). Trumpy Thought in criminal law absolutely fucks minorities and the poor. I whine and moan about Trumpy Thought and Cersei Lannister narrative crafting a lot here because when I see it among people I respect and agree with on most things, it galls me, because we're supposed to be the good guys and not pull that stupid poo poo. PeterCat posted:So, Ahmaud Arbery, lynched or not? LingcodKilla posted:Pffft lynch mobs these days. Back in the good ol days If we had a wrong address we’d just have a two-fer-one. Eh, if we're turning the brain off and going with feelings, punish ersatz/debased 'lynching' with the full weight of the rule of law (ignore the irony, please) and just extrajudicially execute those who do lynchings.
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ManMythLegend posted:VP finishing his jump qual. Pence pulling a db cooper
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The mob formerly known as lynch
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iwentdoodie posted:Pence pulling a db cooper I hope he jumped with a briefcase full of trumpbux checks.
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That Works posted:The mob formerly known as lynch It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob. 
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Oh I'm sorry I forget attempt and intent only applies to other crimes. How about terrorism? Can we use that? Do we have to show intent for that these days?
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob. 
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob. This makes the whole conversation almost worth it. Almost.
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gently caress I'm tired. First thing I thought of was the 80's hair metal band. Hit me w a sixer
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob. McNally posted:This makes the whole conversation almost worth it. 
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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1260256034976907264?s=20 I'll post more specifics when I see them, this is what the article has: quote:The legislation, which the House is expected to vote on Friday, would devote nearly $1 trillion to state, local, territorial and tribal governments and establish a $200 billion “Heroes Fund” to extend hazard pay to essential workers. It would also send a second - and larger - round of direct payments to individual Americans, up to $6,000 per household. Other parts of the bill would increase nutrition assistance benefits by 15 percent and provide $175 billion in housing assistance, among other things. e: https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1260254988368072707?s=20 And for anyone who wants to read it themselves: https://twitter.com/sarahnferris/status/1260248656692875267?s=20 Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 12, 2020 |
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IS in Afghanistan (probably) dialing up the evil to 11 with a gunman attack on a maternity ward. “What if school shooting but somehow worse,” seems like where that kind of brainstorming starts.
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mlmp08 posted:IS in Afghanistan (probably) dialing up the evil to 11 with a gunman attack on a maternity ward. “What if school shooting but somehow worse,” seems like where that kind of brainstorming starts. I mean, a chud in (I think) Missouri tried to blow up a hospital cause covid is fake, so we're right there with them.
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Here's a short recap on the Trump Tax cases at the Supreme Court today: https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1260260299720065027?s=19 The general highlights are that the House Democrats' attorney is not very good, Donnie had Sekulol throw some president-as-king chum that Thomas loved, the Solicitor General was a third wheel, and NY's attorney was very good. Sure seems like the supreme court was looking to punt the whole thing. It's also hilariously stupid that the conservative side of the supreme court is all BUT THE PRESIDENT HAS NO TIME FOR THIS when it has been obvious that Donnie hasn't done poo poo except for watch TV and tweet about the TV for years.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob. 
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brains posted:maybe, since in the last 100 years society has moved from describing lynchings as commonplace to a reviled, heinous act, we should recognize there is a lower baseline of unacceptable conduct now? like armed mobs with not-subtle LEO endorsement hunting down black people? to me, that sure seems like the absolute worst thing happening nowadays. yes, lynching is horrific, but (thank loving god) it doesn't happen on the scale it did. a single lynching today would be national news; a 100 years ago, it was a nightly occurrence all over america. Up thread there was a video of a jogger who got shot by a crew of whities in a couple truck. It was recorded two months ago, but the footage just got released last week through court order. It is one of the few forms of protected speech in America, sick lynchin vids.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I thought it was their defense lawyer who released the video, thinking it would clear them somehow.  Wait... is this true? Do you have a source on this?
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ManMythLegend posted:
A lawyer who was a friend of theirs leaked it. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/us/ahmaud-arbery-video-lawyer.html He thought it would stop a riot. The lawyer was concerned about rumors the truck had Confederate flags and thought the video would exonerate the racists. Upon reflection, he may not be a lawyer you want to use.
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Thomamelas posted:A lawyer who was a friend of theirs leaked it. 
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Thomamelas posted:A lawyer who was a friend of theirs leaked it. quote:
Holy poo poo this guy makes Lionel Hutz look like Perry Mason. Usually one gets a lawyer to stay out of jail, not end up there.
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Remember, we're dealing with people that think good public policy is telling black people to go back to Mexico. It's a very Trumpian thing - everyone must think like I do, so *of course* this video is going to exonerate my friends!
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LingcodKilla posted:Just how low was his bar to pass. Well, Georgia, so I assume writing your name on your bar test is a passing grade.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It's only a lynching if it originates from the Lynchburg region, otherwise it's technically a sparkling murder mob. What's the character limit on titles again?
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Slim Pickens posted:What's the character limit on titles again? Jaded Burnout posted:Alright after some investigation, it appears that the limit is 75, or 85, or 100, depending on how and where you're doing it. Because radium.
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May 2020 CE: If it didn't come from the Lynchburg region, it's technically a sparkling murder mob 97 characters
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Slim Pickens posted:May 2020 CE: If it didn't come from Lynchburg, it's a sparkling murder mob Still kinda works
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