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WoodrowSkillson posted:its more that stuff like elven reproduction is a whole deep dive into weird 1930s catholic ideas about sex and whooo boy I believe Legendary Forums User Elise The Great has posted quite enough about Elvish mating habits.
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When did beren and luthien first have sex
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May 8, 2020 16:17
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The evening of March 22nd, 1916, I would guess.
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May 8, 2020 16:26
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euphronius posted:When did beren and luthien first have sex Deffo premaritally
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VanSandman posted:I believe Legendary Forums User Elise The Great has posted quite enough about Elvish mating habits. Never enough
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May 8, 2020 16:40
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My guess is on the hike from Saurons tower to Angband when they were chased by Celegorm
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euphronius posted:My guess is on the hike from Saurons tower to Angband when they were chased by Celegorm Imo its before that. They were meeting up, alone, in the woods, all summer, at least once spending the night together, before Daeron ratted them out to Thingol. Thingol’s attitude to Beren also clearly assumes they’ve been doing more than just playing tengwar-scrabble all night, tho I guess he could be wrong to assume so
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May 8, 2020 17:06
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How many kids did they have and when? That's when they had sex.
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May 8, 2020 17:25
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skasion posted:Nicol Williamson (played Merlin in Excalibur) did a (sadly abridged) reading of The Hobbit back in the day. It owns. He even manages to make “Tra-la-la-lally” sound good If there's anything that trains you how to speak prose it's being a Shakespearian actor!
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May 8, 2020 19:11
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Deptfordx posted:I know it's not the point, but after a few minutes I'm unimpressed with him as a narrator. agreed
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Another good thing that came from Andy Serkis reading the Hobbit (besides the whole charity thing) is that it made me pull the trigger on a LOTR audiobook. I spend a ton of time in the car and I’m sick of trying to always find new podcasts. Rob Inglis is a BOMB rear end narrator. Every voice is so distinct. He’s amazing.
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Rob Inglis is my favorite too. In fact, more often than not I put on one of his Tolkien audiobooks at bedtime to go to sleep. His voice is so soothing and the material is so familiar to me it's like a warm fuzzy blanket. It's a shame he never did any other audiobooks other than the first Earthsea book. Apparently before he did the audiobooks he had a one man show where he performed The Hobbit, and that's how they picked him for the audiobooks. To me, his is the definitive version.
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Imagined posted:Rob Inglis is my favorite too. In fact, more often than not I put on one of his Tolkien audiobooks at bedtime to go to sleep. His voice is so soothing and the material is so familiar to me it's like a warm fuzzy blanket. Apparently, his is the only unabridged version of LOTR. Which makes sense, when it’s that good, why even bother with another one? Don’t mess with perfection.
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I also read that his versions of the songs are a mixture of Tolkien's melodies, his own inventions, and those of a composer who worked for Recorded Books Incorporated. Regardless, they're what I hear in my head.
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Imagined posted:Rob Inglis is my favorite too. In fact, more often than not I put on one of his Tolkien audiobooks at bedtime to go to sleep. His voice is so soothing and the material is so familiar to me it's like a warm fuzzy blanket. Wow, thanks for the heads up on these. I went to reactivate my Audible account to buy these but apparently I qualified for a new free trial with 2 credits. Then I went to buy the books and I guess FotR and TTT are on sale 2 for 1 credit. I got them and RotK for the other credit. So I got all three for free is what I’m saying. Just a heads up for anyone else interested.
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May 8, 2020 20:47
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skasion posted:Imo its before that. They were meeting up, alone, in the woods, all summer, at least once spending the night together, before Daeron ratted them out to Thingol. Thingol’s attitude to Beren also clearly assumes they’ve been doing more than just playing tengwar-scrabble all night, tho I guess he could be wrong to assume so Oh right After beren sees her the second time
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May 8, 2020 23:27
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skasion posted:Imo its before that. They were meeting up, alone, in the woods, all summer, at least once spending the night together, before Daeron ratted them out to Thingol. Thingol’s attitude to Beren also clearly assumes they’ve been doing more than just playing tengwar-scrabble all night, tho I guess he could be wrong to assume so ...tengwar scrabble would look great, at least
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Tree Bucket posted:...tengwar scrabble would look great, at least Tengwar, like Devanagari, seems like it would be very difficult to implement in scrabble
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SHISHKABOB posted:How many kids did they have and when? That's when they had sex. One son. And who says JR couldn't write Protestants lol
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May 9, 2020 01:22
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 Probably there yeah (It’s a really good poem)
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Oh I got the wrong part it was a couple liens further as Skaison says 
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euphronius posted:Oh I got the wrong part it was a couple liens further as Skaison says dairedditor
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SeductiveReasoning posted:Wow, thanks for the heads up on these. I went to reactivate my Audible account to buy these but apparently I qualified for a new free trial with 2 credits. Then I went to buy the books and I guess FotR and TTT are on sale 2 for 1 credit. I got them and RotK for the other credit. Can you download them or do you have to listen to them in Audible? I hate Amazon so I don't want to give them any money, but that's really, really tempting...
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Runcible Cat posted:Can you download them or do you have to listen to them in Audible? I hate Amazon so I don't want to give them any money, but that's really, really tempting... I believe you can download the file via a desktop/laptop in .aax format.
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On the recommendation of this thread I got the Lord of the Rings audio book. This Inglis guy is really good. It isn't what I expected, but that kind of makes it better. It gives me a new voice to hear the books from, which is refreshing.
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If you're into this sort of thing, you probably also want to check out the 1981 BBC Radio dramatisation.
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Trin Tragula posted:If you're into this sort of thing, you probably also want to check out the 1981 BBC Radio dramatisation. How does it differ from the audiobooks?
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ChubbyChecker posted:How does it differ from the audiobooks? Radio dramas have a full cast, with actors playing individual parts. In that BBC version, Ian Holm plays Frodo.
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Mahoning posted:Radio dramas have a full cast, with actors playing individual parts. Is it unabridged?
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ChubbyChecker posted:Is it unabridged? No, it’s rearranged a bit as well. e.g. they show Gollum getting captured and tortured directly rather than just letting you know after the fact
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skasion posted:No, it’s rearranged a bit as well. e.g. they show Gollum getting captured and tortured directly rather than just letting you know after the fact Pity.
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May 11, 2020 21:42
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I believe they also omitted Ho Tom Merry Tom Bombadillo!
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Mahoning posted:I believe they also omitted Ho Tom Merry Tom Bombadillo! That's a crime. The stuff was made for radio.
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I hope that they find a secret codicil to Tolkien's will stating that no adaptation of LOTR in any form can exist if any of the Tom Bombadil section is excluded or abridged in any way.
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the bit from the beginning up to bree is a good story in and of itself
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Shibawanko posted:the bit from the beginning up to bree is a good story in and of itself It’s a microcosmic decent into faerie with a miraculous / brave / heroic rescue in the barrow. Plus Tom foreshadows a bunch of poo poo that the (new) reader would have no idea about but is still cool. And Frodo has an important god dream iirc It owns
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I hope that they find a secret codicil to Tolkien's will stating that no adaptation of LOTR in any form can exist if any of the Tom Bombadil section is excluded or abridged in any way. Grim faced but resolute, I begin snapping my extended edition dvds in half
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Bombadil aside. The first movie is also always my favorite because it sticks closest to the book and nails the tone shift from Hobbit 2: Electric Boogaloo to holy poo poo immortal ghosts are gonna eat our souls.
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Reading The Hobbit each night to my kids has been great. We've just done the bit after the riddles where Gollum runs past Bilbo- at which point my kid yelled "Bilbo's got the ring!" and it made me so happy... On another note, what's the chronology of Fellowship being written? I've got a crackpot theory brewing. You may have heard of the ancient Lachish Letters. They were found by a British team back in 1938, in the ruins of a fortress guard-house, dating back to Babylon's invasion of Judah. One includes the line "we are looking for the signal-fires of Lachish, for we can no longer see Azekah." Poor buggers were watching their other fortresses get snuffed out one by one, by the advancing army. I was wondering if this little discovery could have had any influence on the description of Balin's tomb in Moria- that image of a ruined fortification, and the desperate scrawls of a doomed scribe as they recount their etc etc......
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JRRT says in the preface that he got to Balin’s tomb and stopped writing for a while in late 1940; Christopher spends some time arguing in Return of the Shadow (iirc) that he misremembered and it was 1939 instead. But either way, the Book of Mazarbul stuff that follows that would have been written in or after 1940. So definitely possible.
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