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What type of plants are you interested in growing?
This poll is closed.
Perennials! 142 20.91%
Annuals! 30 4.42%
Woody plants! 62 9.13%
Succulent plants! 171 25.18%
Tropical plants! 60 8.84%
Non-vascular plants are the best! 31 4.57%
Screw you, I'd rather eat them! 183 26.95%
Total: 679 votes
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Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


We have a big overgrown elephant jade in the backyard, so even though it's entirely the wrong time of the year to try cuttings (I'm in Australia) I took the big branches I cut off and stuck them in pots in some succulent potting mix.

They'll either take, or they are so big that it will take them a couple of months to start looking dead. Either way it's a win since I'll have plenty of growth left for new cuttings if needed in spring.

I think I've got a little cocky since my Yucca cuttings have taken really well and those things being so indestructible has given me a false sense of confidence.

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Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost

The Wonder Weapon posted:

Hey there. This is crossposted from the landscaping thread, which wasn't able to give me quite the feedback I was hoping for.



This is the edge of our property, which had a bunch of ugly bushes. With no gym access lately, I've been getting my exercise ripping them out. I've just about finished (one remains, out of frame). My tentative plan is to plant some Thuja Green Giant privacy trees. Ideally I'd keep them somewhere between 6 and 10 feet. They'll serve three purposes: noise reduction from the street, protecting the house from a cold northern wind, and aesthetics. Here's what I'm considering: https://www.homedepot.com/p/9-25-in-Pot-Emerald-Green-Arborvitae-Thuja-Live-Evergreen-Shrub-Tree-Green-Foliage-55203FL/205544441 or https://www.brighterblooms.com/products/thuja-green-giant basically. I'm in Buffalo, which seems to be an adequate growing zone. There's a lot of deer here, and apparently they're quite deer resistant to boot. (I imagine I'll end up needing to burlap them anyways over the winter.) Here's what I'm unsure of:

1. Is this the best tree for the job?
2. The bushes I dug out were an assorted lot. I got the majority of each, but I certainly didn't dig out every root, some of which seem to run several feet deep. Can I plant those trees in this same area without concern how any leftover roots may impact the new trees?
3. The planting instructions seem fairly simple. Dig a wide hole, drop the tree in the hole, fill with soil, top with mulch, and water on a schedule. There's no mention of any sort of framing or support structure being needed. They're supposed to be planted 5' on center, which is quite similar to the existing holes from the bushes, so I was going to make good use of the holes I've already dug (the mini ponds pictured above). Is that really all there is to it?

1- It would work for your intended purpose just fine except arguably the aesthetic part; to me, they're very boring trees but definitely serve their purpose in the landscape well, which is to say making a massive hedge. They grow fast, thick, and don't suffer from much disease. Plant 8 feet apart.

2- Those roots shouldn't matter in the planting. Just keep an eye out for suckers that might shoot off of those original roots.

3- There's a lot to consider in planting trees, but if the size of the plants in your links is accurate, you have a little less to worry about. Just make sure that you shake the roots out and spread them when you put them in the ground. Make sure they spread out and away from the plant instead of just dumping the root ball into the hole. Container plants are prone to becoming root bound, and this is a big consideration with a tree that you want to live for a long time. They can eventually just strangle themselves and you won't know that it happened for six years.

Your yard pic makes it look like the drainage in that area sucks considerable rear end, so when you plant them you should mix in a considerable amount of soil conditioner. This will improve the flow of water around and away from the roots and keep them from getting root rot. Poorly drained soil is one condition that can absolutely piss a thuja off and cause them to die, so you will very much want to improve that line as much as you can.

If you want a super detailed video on planting woody plants check out this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IEUBw6sAvs

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Not sure if this is the best thread for this, but has anyone done any propagation from woody-stemmed cuttings? This year I would like to try it on a few plants on my property because I need to stop my wife from buying more goddamn plants (especially the super loving expensive poo poo that we already have). We have some really unique lilacs and rhododendrons and a handful of berry bushes which I think are from the original homestead a hundred years ago. I was going to go the new growth + hormone + perlite/soil route. Cursory reading suggests it's tough but not impossible and that it might take months. Should I keep them indoors? Grow lights? Should I skip cuttings entirely and attempt layering instead?

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!
First flower has emerged from one of my Daturas!


ReapersTouch
Nov 25, 2004

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

actionjackson posted:

Hello, I have three indoor plants that are pretty much impossible to kill, and I've had them for a couple years (one zanzibar, two sansavierias)

I decided I want to finally put some plants (flowering or not) on my patio after having it be pretty much empty :effort: for years. I have a decent sized space that gets a lot of direct sunlight. I'm thinking just getting two larger plants on stands for the two corners of the patio with direct sunlight. I live in Minnesota, so I'll need something that I can easily deal with when it gets cold. And generally something that doesn't require a ton of watering (I think once a week would be fine for me). Any suggestions?

I've poked around the channel that I watch and the guy has different plants based on zones in his video playlist. You might find something there that will catch your eye. He's mentioned in the past that container planting a kinda tricky in regards to cold hardiness and suggests getting plants that can handle a zone colder than where you're at if you are container planting. Good luck!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxYqoR2FCE_3XygMpGD2spLEBcYN4HqkW

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Cool thank you friend

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


FreelanceSocialist posted:

Not sure if this is the best thread for this, but has anyone done any propagation from woody-stemmed cuttings? This year I would like to try it on a few plants on my property because I need to stop my wife from buying more goddamn plants (especially the super loving expensive poo poo that we already have). We have some really unique lilacs and rhododendrons and a handful of berry bushes which I think are from the original homestead a hundred years ago. I was going to go the new growth + hormone + perlite/soil route. Cursory reading suggests it's tough but not impossible and that it might take months. Should I keep them indoors? Grow lights? Should I skip cuttings entirely and attempt layering instead?
Rooting woody plants from cuttings is absolutely possible, but it is not as simple or reliable as rooting some basil in a glass of water. I know some old lady gardeners that can root anything, but I haven't reached that level of nirvana yet. Different woody plants act very differently, and some are almost impossible to root from cuttings whereas others root readily. The best technique varies by species too. Some will root readily overwinter from a mature hardwood cutting and won't root from new growth, where others only want to root from new growth cut by the light of a full moon in the third week after they leaf out. Google 'rooting XYZ' for each plant. I got Making More Plants by Ken Druse from the library one time and it was a great introduction to the subject. Michael Dirr has also written some reference kind of stuff on propagation.

Things I have read/learned:
*Timing/selection can be super important. New-ish growth usually roots better than old growth (the new growth has more of the growth hormones that promote rooting in it than old growth), but it can't be too new or it won't have enough energy stored in the stem to root successfully.
*Get stuff in water ASAP, and clip a fresh end of the stem right before you put it in water. Give stuff a 24 hr drink in water before you stick it in dirt/sand.
*Cuttings need to stay humid, but not too humid or they rot/mold.
*Don't rush it. Give stuff at least 6 weeks before you check for roots.
*Rooting hormone hasn't seemed to make a huge difference in my experience, but I think it varies by species

Air layering works well in my limited experience on Camellias and Japanese maples and will give you a bigger plant faster than rooting, but it is a little ugly while you are doing it and uses more of the parent plant. Grafting also works well on those and many others and is one of the main ways hard to root stuff is propagated.

My attempts at rooting have mostly been a crapshoot, but it's super cool when it works and it's free so there's no reason not try.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Great info, thanks. I'm going to track down a copy of Druse' book - you're probably the third person who has mentioned the guy.

Winter Stormer
Oct 17, 2012

ReapersTouch posted:

I've poked around the channel that I watch and the guy has different plants based on zones in his video playlist. You might find something there that will catch your eye. He's mentioned in the past that container planting a kinda tricky in regards to cold hardiness and suggests getting plants that can handle a zone colder than where you're at if you are container planting. Good luck!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxYqoR2FCE_3XygMpGD2spLEBcYN4HqkW

I looked at the zone 8 playlist out of curiosity, and it had 16 videos about how to care for different nandina cultivars, and another 7 about ligustrums.

Don't plant nandinas. They're invasive as gently caress and the fruit is toxic to birds.
Don't plant ligustrums. They're invasive as gently caress

I don't have any recommendations for alternative channels but I wish this dude were more careful about which sponsored plants he advertises

Nosre
Apr 16, 2002


poo poo I was going to make a post on difficulties rooting some succulent varieties (this is Gasteria - Little Warty), but it got derailed







First time I've dealt with these. Mealybugs? Look like it, but they were entirely in the base, nothing on the plant up above (which I see in pictures)

1) Do I have to worry about other pots that were nearby, given that these were entirely in the soil? Can they spread even if there were none to be seen above ground?

2) Some of the soil from that pot went into a big container of cactus mix before I saw they were there. Can they live/reproduce in that container, in the absence of any plants?

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Not sure if this is the best thread for this, but has anyone done any propagation from woody-stemmed cuttings? This year I would like to try it on a few plants on my property because I need to stop my wife from buying more goddamn plants (especially the super loving expensive poo poo that we already have). We have some really unique lilacs and rhododendrons and a handful of berry bushes which I think are from the original homestead a hundred years ago.

All of the plants you mention are notorious for forming suckers and creating a giant mound of plant, to the point where they’re often considered a huge pain in the rear end! Just dig up some of the suckers and the roots in the fall once everything goes dormant and move them somewhere else. There’s no reason at all to go through propagation with these guys

Eszettschnitte
Jun 23, 2019

Nosre posted:

poo poo I was going to make a post on difficulties rooting some succulent varieties (this is Gasteria - Little Warty), but it got derailed







First time I've dealt with these. Mealybugs? Look like it, but they were entirely in the base, nothing on the plant up above (which I see in pictures)

1) Do I have to worry about other pots that were nearby, given that these were entirely in the soil? Can they spread even if there were none to be seen above ground?

2) Some of the soil from that pot went into a big container of cactus mix before I saw they were there. Can they live/reproduce in that container, in the absence of any plants?

These are definitely mealybugs. On succulents, they love nestling into the nooks and crannies. Sadly, I cannot answer your other questions but I wouldn't take any chances. At least monitor any other plants closely and keep in mind that mealybugs can also live on the roots of plants.

The good news is, on succulents they are relatively easy to treat. I would prepare 70% isopropyl or any rubbing alcohol (you can dilute it a little further with water, too) and liberally spray the plant. It kills the mealybugs but not the succulent. You can also try getting to them with cotton swabs dunked in alcohol.
Be careful that the plant is dry before putting it back into the sun and for succulents with farina, you need to keep them in the shade because the alcohol removes the farina and makes them vulnerable to sunburn.

Nosre
Apr 16, 2002


Thanks. Yea, I'm planning to sterilize soil from that container before I use it again. It's not a huge quantity, so no huge deal

The Wonder Weapon
Dec 16, 2006



Oil of Paris posted:

1- It would work for your intended purpose just fine except arguably the aesthetic part; to me, they're very boring trees but definitely serve their purpose in the landscape well, which is to say making a massive hedge. They grow fast, thick, and don't suffer from much disease. Plant 8 feet apart.

2- Those roots shouldn't matter in the planting. Just keep an eye out for suckers that might shoot off of those original roots.

3- There's a lot to consider in planting trees, but if the size of the plants in your links is accurate, you have a little less to worry about. Just make sure that you shake the roots out and spread them when you put them in the ground. Make sure they spread out and away from the plant instead of just dumping the root ball into the hole. Container plants are prone to becoming root bound, and this is a big consideration with a tree that you want to live for a long time. They can eventually just strangle themselves and you won't know that it happened for six years.

Your yard pic makes it look like the drainage in that area sucks considerable rear end, so when you plant them you should mix in a considerable amount of soil conditioner. This will improve the flow of water around and away from the roots and keep them from getting root rot. Poorly drained soil is one condition that can absolutely piss a thuja off and cause them to die, so you will very much want to improve that line as much as you can.

If you want a super detailed video on planting woody plants check out this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IEUBw6sAvs

This is exactly what I needed to know. Thanks so much!

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

Beautiful!

Requesting an id of this plant:

Southern Sweden. May have come along for the ride with a pair of ferns acquired from wild.

Bloody Cat Farm
Oct 20, 2010

I can smell your pussy, Clarice.

anatomi posted:

Beautiful!

Requesting an id of this plant:

Southern Sweden. May have come along for the ride with a pair of ferns acquired from wild.

Looks like some type of citrus to me, but there are other people in this thread that are far better at IDing plants than I am.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


anatomi posted:

Beautiful!

Requesting an id of this plant:

Southern Sweden. May have come along for the ride with a pair of ferns acquired from wild.
It's way out of my area and you would probably get a better answer by asking someone local-ish who know about plants. Maybe send the picture to a local garden center? To me, it looks like maybe a wild cherry, but I'm not sure the leaves are that glossy. It sort of almost looks like the new growth on a camellia, but no idea if they would survive in Sweden.

Are the leaves opposite each other along the stem in pairs or do they alternate? Does the underside of the leaf have little hairs on it or is it smooth?

The botanical-ish way to describe that leaf which may help with googling, is that it is glossy, has a lanceolate shape with serrated leaf margins. Unfortunately, glossy lenceolate, serrated leaves are about the most common leaf out there. You'd probably need to know what the mature bark or a flower/fruit or something looks like. It's going to be tough to ID from just a little seedling-it might be a shrub or it might be a tree and it might be wild/native or it might not, and all that widens the field tremendously.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Speaking of, it's coming to the end of it's flowering now, but this thing was pretty this year.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

im about to plant some pot

edit: i mean pot some plants

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost
Good luck goon

Bi-la kaifa
Feb 4, 2011

Space maggots.

What kind of plants are about to be potted?

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED
Either way it seems to be going well

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!

anatomi posted:

Beautiful!

Requesting an id of this plant:

Southern Sweden. May have come along for the ride with a pair of ferns acquired from wild.

Resembles Salix pentandra (jolster på svenska) somewhat, but at that stage its hard to tell, a bunch of both wild and widely cultivated species could fit the bill. S. pentandra is also a darker green and more finely serrated, but i dont know how much they can vary in fresh seedlings. A doubtful guess from me.

Falukorv fucked around with this message at 14:30 on May 13, 2020

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost
Yeah that little seedling could be anything. You'll have to let it grow out and get some more defined characteristics before any sort of ID could be made. For my 2 cents, it looks like a cherry because the tip is making that little beak and the edges are slightly serrated but again its too small to really tell

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.
My two cents are that the leaves are too glossy and substantial to be cherry, but that leaves a thousand things it could be.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Bi-la kaifa posted:

What kind of plants are about to be potted?

Pot plants are about to be planted in pots to become planted potted pot plants.

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

I was initially thinking it was some kind of cherry laurel, but the leaves are opposite, not alternating. Thanks, people. I'll let it grow out. You can start betting on the species now.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR
I found something growing out of my ex palm pot (which just dissolved, very sad). I suspect it's some kind of rootstock citrus, I remember drunkenly burying some navel orange seeds in there to prove a point.



Might as well grow it inside. I'll pop it in a taller pot in a few weeks if it does well.

Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 14:28 on May 13, 2020

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


anatomi posted:

I was initially thinking it was some kind of cherry laurel, but the leaves are opposite, not alternating. Thanks, people. I'll let it grow out. You can start betting on the species now.

Cherry laurel was actually my first thought, but I didn't think they would grow in sweden.

If the plant has opposite leaves, that makes IDing it potentially much easier as opposite leaves are much less common that alternating. For US stuff there are some good leaf/tree ID flowcharts but I can't seem to find one for Europe.

Nosre
Apr 16, 2002


Suspect Bucket posted:

Might as well grow it inside. I'll pop it in a taller pot in a few weeks if it does well.

I have a bunch of lemons I've done that with for fun, and they do great in pots so far (about 4-5 years old). Very robust and easy to bounce back from any mistreatment

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

Nosre posted:

I have a bunch of lemons I've done that with for fun, and they do great in pots so far (about 4-5 years old). Very robust and easy to bounce back from any mistreatment

Nice! Probably won't get any citrus worth eating, but maybe I can graft something on later. Would be nice to put a mini Mandarin on later.

Nosre
Apr 16, 2002


That's a fun idea, I haven't done any grafting myself but I'll definitely experiment at some point.

But, if you drunkenly buried a seed (similar story to me heh), isn't yours (and mine) a full plant of the scion variant, not the rootstock variant?

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

Cherry laurel was actually my first thought, but I didn't think they would grow in sweden.

If the plant has opposite leaves, that makes IDing it potentially much easier as opposite leaves are much less common that alternating. For US stuff there are some good leaf/tree ID flowcharts but I can't seem to find one for Europe.
I live in Skåne, which is one of the warmest zones (1 out of 8, 8 being the coldest) in Sweden. I think it's roughly comparable to USDA zone 8A. However, our summers are much shorter than yours.

I found an interactive key at https://www.digiflora.se but I couldn't scrape up anything that matched. The plant could very well be something nonnative.


According to my roommate, our mystery plants didn't drop leaves or color during the winter (which was very mild; no snow at all), which would make cherry laurel a fitting candidate. Except for the leaves that (to my eye) definitely look opposite/decussate.

Falukorv
Jun 23, 2013

A funny little mouse!
A willow has started growing in a large abandoned waterlogged pot in my parents backyard, pretty cool.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



My Balaton Pie cherry tree isn’t doing so hot. :(





My guess is that it’s not getting enough sunlight. It’s sitting under the branches of a tree in our neighbor’s yard that extend into our yard. I’ve been meaning to prune those branches back so it can get more light, but I’ve been so focused on fostering kittens over the past few weeks that I haven’t gotten around to asking the neighbors for permission to cut poo poo off their tree, much less actually cut anything.

Can my tree still be saved? Or is it doomed at this point?

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Hello, I just got my first outdoor flowers after having a bare patio for nine years. Two geraniums, and the container they came in drains on the bottom. I was told to water every other day, remove the dead buds, and to use miracle-gro once a week. If I do MWF watering is that fine? That's much easier to remember. Also this area gets tons of direct sun as you can see.

now to go out and enjoy my patio *opens door to sounds of endless leaf blowers*

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Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

Nosre posted:

That's a fun idea, I haven't done any grafting myself but I'll definitely experiment at some point.

But, if you drunkenly buried a seed (similar story to me heh), isn't yours (and mine) a full plant of the scion variant, not the rootstock variant?

But wont the scion be a rootstock variety?

poo poo now i gotta look this up

They're never gonna let me be a master gardener at this rate.

edit: Well it turns out I misunderstood how citrus propagates. I thought the seeds were going to contain only the rootstock's genetics. Which on reflection... doesn't make sense? Who told me this?

Suspect Bucket fucked around with this message at 23:59 on May 14, 2020

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.

I. M. Gei posted:

My Balaton Pie cherry tree isn’t doing so hot. :(

Low sunlight will cause a tree to fail to thrive, but yours isn’t getting so little that it should be actively dying for want of it.

The leaves that are yellowing from the inside are going senescent. The tree is pulling the nutrients out of them. It’s not great, but it’s not a disease.

I think it’s just transplant shock. Cherry trees are particularly slow at getting over it. Pear, too. Don’t fertilise it. Mulch it, then water it maybe two or three times a week, dependent on soil and weather conditions. When it gets its roots in order, the top will take off.

actionjackson posted:

I was told to water every other day, remove the dead buds, and to use miracle-gro once a week. If I do MWF watering is that fine? That's much easier to remember.

That’s close enough to every other day unless you encounter a heat wave that’s so bad you should be watering every day anyway. Ideal watering is more to feel (or with a soil moisture meter) than keeping a schedule.

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Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




actionjackson posted:


now to go out and enjoy my patio *opens door to sounds of endless leaf blowers*

I want to murder have a word with my neighbors sometimes

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