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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it was purely self-inflicted

Just pretend i fishmeched you with two google searches here. it's saturday, i'm lazy.

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
theres a general problem with sex-focused websites (greatly exacerbated by sesta/fosta) that the content means a hard ceiling on how big they can grow. advertisers dont want to deal with you, you have trouble getting your app carried, its hard to promote yourself. once you reach a certain size you stagnate, and the money people begin pushing you find a way to make number go up (because number must go up). usually this means pivoting away from the porn and sex work and towards the mainstream, except that almost never works because 1) your old users are going to walk away, 2) theres no guarantee youll get any new users, and 3) your reputation as a former porn site is going to make your pivot to the mainstream extra difficult

i assume this is what is going on with patreon and onlyfans - theyve hit a ceiling and trying to figure out how to keep growing, and that usually means giving the adult-oriented content and members and users the back of your hand

if you work on the adult entertainment side of the internet you should just assume youll be completely upended and migrating to a new platform every few years

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




or you can just lean into it like pornbub? I don’t think they’re hurting

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

or you can just lean into it like pornbub? I don’t think they’re hurting
that requires understanding and accepting that youll never be more than a niche player and your reward will be running a nicely profitable business for years and years instead of a giant acquisition or ipo payout

for every company that is capable of doing that there are dozens more that point to the growth chart and chant "number must go UP"

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Jim Silly-Balls posted:

or you can just lean into it like pornbub? I don’t think they’re hurting

jon ronson did a thing for audible called the butterfly effect that goes into that and its basically they did a youtube but also cornered distribution by buying the smaller streaming sites and ignored copyright claims until the porn industry caved enough to have to need to partner with them, then started making their own stuff to muscle them out further

facebook is sort of doing the same with social platforms now

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

or you can just lean into it like pornbub? I don’t think they’re hurting

pornhub got its start using piracy -- stolen video uploaded by "users"

now that they're making money, they have pivoted to human trafficking. they don't do the trafficking themselves, they just host videos of girls and women being forced into sex on tape.

extremely classy people over there.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i know yospos is full of sad masturbating men

so just remember every time you click a link on pornhub you are making money for human traffickers

you make yourself an active participant in a system of rape and slavery

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

this is what we get for letting the qubecois get their gravy covered hands on an industry

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
if i could go back in time and tell people in the 1990s that the biggest internet companies of the 2020s make their money by breaking the law they'd poo poo

  • jitney cabs, NOW WITH THE INTERNET!

  • illegal flophouses, NOW WITH THE INTERNET!

  • loansharking, ON THE INTERNET!

  • human trafficking, BUT NOW INTERNET!

  • propaganda from authoritarian states, INTERNET-ENABLED!!!

and the government gives zero shits about any of it

because lol, turns out laws only matter when poor people break them

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i know yospos is full of sad masturbating men

so just remember every time you click a link on pornhub you are making money for human traffickers

you make yourself an active participant in a system of rape and slavery

porn is a scourge, and the shame of a nation

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
https://twitter.com/dril/status/283315931197894656

s/tomorrow on christmas//

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

if i could go back in time and tell people in the 1990s that the biggest internet companies of the 2020s make their money by breaking the law they'd poo poo

  • jitney cabs, NOW WITH THE INTERNET!

  • illegal flophouses, NOW WITH THE INTERNET!

  • loansharking, ON THE INTERNET!

  • human trafficking, BUT NOW INTERNET!

  • propaganda from authoritarian states, INTERNET-ENABLED!!!

and the government gives zero shits about any of it

because lol, turns out laws only matter when poor people break them
you missed the biggest one: gig economy jobs (uber, doordash, etc) breaking every employment law and protection, with an app

p much all "disruptive" "innovative" internet businesses are about finding weak/unclear/unenforced parts of the law and crashing into them, hoping to become big and influential enough to buy off legislators once the authorities begin to take note of them

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

you make yourself an active participant in a system of rape and slavery

i have bad news for you about chocolate farming, sourcing of materials used in semiconductors, manufacturing of textiles, and lots more

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

psiox posted:

i have bad news for you about chocolate farming, sourcing of materials used in semiconductors, manufacturing of textiles, and lots more

on the one hand, i get what you mean about ethical consumption under capitalism

on the other hand, i am pretty sure it's bad to masturbate to videos of trafficked women being raped. bad in a rather direct and obvious way

there are lots of things to masturbate to, no reason to support human trafficking while you do it

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

FMguru posted:

you missed the biggest one: gig economy jobs (uber, doordash, etc) breaking every employment law and protection, with an app

sadly these mostly don't break the law

california is one of the only states with enough labor protection for it to matter :(

FMguru posted:

p much all "disruptive" "innovative" internet businesses are about finding weak/unclear/unenforced parts of the law and crashing into them, hoping to become big and influential enough to buy off legislators once the authorities begin to take note of them

yeah that is a relatively new phenomenon :(

in the 20th century businesses were mostly expected to be legal. i mean, sure, businesses broke the law, but usually they weren't built on nothing but breaking the law

general motors is happy to break the law when it can get away with it, but fundamentally automobile manufacturing doesn't require law-breaking to be profitable

in contrast, airbnb simply does not exist in any legal form. without the scads of illegal flophouses, it's not a profitable business

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

on the one hand, i get what you mean about ethical consumption under capitalism

on the other hand, i am pretty sure it's bad to masturbate to videos of trafficked women being raped. bad in a rather direct and obvious way

there are lots of things to masturbate to, no reason to support human trafficking while you do it

i can't disagree with that, which makes one hope that legitimizing sex work more would help, but i'm not sure how you'd ever really know (which isn't an excuse not to try)

even if one could find ethically-sourced, locally-made, grain-fed, small-batch pornography, the economic duress of it all still casts aspersions

but perhaps the same could be said of all occupations under capitalism

(wish i had solutions here instead of just bemoaning culture, but felt the call to :justpost:)

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

on the one hand, i get what you mean about ethical consumption under capitalism

on the other hand, i am pretty sure it's bad to masturbate to videos of trafficked women being raped. bad in a rather direct and obvious way

there are lots of things to masturbate to, no reason to support human trafficking while you do it

weirdly reasonable stance from a person who literally literally thinks children are chattel

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i know yospos is full of sad masturbating men

so just remember every time you click a link on pornhub you are making money for human traffickers

you make yourself an active participant in a system of rape and slavery

All good bro, I run adblock. Actually costing them money. Sort of a lowkey justice warrior thing tbh

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Jonny 290 posted:

All good bro, I run adblock. Actually costing them money. Sort of a lowkey justice warrior thing tbh

the invisible hand of the market will smite you!

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

3D Megadoodoo posted:

the invisible hand of the market will smite you!

don't kinkshame

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

"you plebianians believe in an invisible man sitting on a cloud? your ignomarance makes me euphoric!
*vape cloud*
now the MARKETPLACE

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

subscribe to my onlyfans

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


i think onlyfans is about as close to ethical porn as you’re gonna get, probably

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!

jesus WEP posted:

i think onlyfans is about as close to ethical porn as you’re gonna get, probably

Does Onlyfans have any built-in protection to verify the money is going to and staying with the star? Seems vulnerable to the same human trafficking PH looks the other way on.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




yeah onlyfans is as bad as PH in the sense that you have no way to verify if anyone there is on there because they want to be.

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
ok so I’m thinking a blockchain platform that encodes mathematical proof of consent into every video, secured by proof-of-jerk

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
2000: lol what kind of sick freak jerks it to cartoons

2020: cartoons are the only ethical source of pornographic stimulation

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

cartoons are the only ethical source of pornographic stimulation

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Soricidus posted:

ok so I’m thinking a blockchain platform that encodes mathematical proof of consent into every video, secured by proof-of-jerk

bob dobbs is dead broke that tho

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

somebody mentioned gardening in a conversation and I suddenly remembered csszengarden.com

loving 2003. some of the older ones (if you can't be arsed to browse them all go to the front page on wayback machine and enjoy trends changing over the years) look totally like modern landing pages, even if they're not ~responsive~
but even the newest submissions load in miliseconds

Ruffian Price fucked around with this message at 12:54 on May 18, 2020

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

carry on then posted:

porn is a scourge, and the shame of a nation

which nation

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

yes

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

Ruffian Price posted:

somebody mentioned gardening in a conversation and I suddenly remembered csszengarden.com

loving 2003. some of the older ones (if you can't be arsed to browse them all go to the front page on wayback machine and enjoy trends changing over the years) look totally like modern landing pages, even if they're not ~responsive~
but even the newest submissions load in miliseconds

I used to love that site

now that we can do all this insane stuff the irony is except for rounded corners and webfonts current design trends are 150% flat, ignoring all of that [and most modern designers don't even know enough to do that right]

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team

scrolls like poo poo on my mbp lmao

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

the only ethical porn is Rakelin panokoulu (Rakel's fuckschool) which was a programme on MoonTV starring Rakel and a boyfriend. I think they never aired the assfucking episode.

(MoonTV otherwise aired such quality programming as "Big Things What Move")

psiox
Oct 15, 2001

Babylon 5 Street Team
smdh if you don't write your own erotica and, like a mandala, destroy it immediately after its creation

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
i tried but mysteriously kept falling asleep 5 minutes in

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

jesus WEP posted:

i think onlyfans is about as close to ethical porn as you’re gonna get, probably

there was a local instagram chick who almost went on onlyfans and then gave up but I asked her about it and basically problem was onlyfans took like 30%, and you need to stay good ot be worthwhile. manyvids lol is probably a better place for people to do poo poo now and then and still make money, except manyvids lends HEAVILY into the hosed up porn poo poo arena, not really appropriate for local hottie to show off her boobies

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I bought a print from her from her etsy and stuck it in my garage. support your locals

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Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


3D Megadoodoo posted:

the only ethical porn is Rakelin panokoulu (Rakel's fuckschool) which was a programme on MoonTV starring Rakel and a boyfriend. I think they never aired the assfucking episode.

(MoonTV otherwise aired such quality programming as "Big Things What Move")

assumed this was a post about anime but then remembered that Finnish is a nonsense language

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