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kraken! posted:I'm not going to dispute the superficial resemblance of reality to Idiocracy, but I can't hear that moivies name and not kneejerk rant about how much I hate the premise of that movie. Idiocracy’s yuppies/smart people didn’t fail to have kids because they were overworked; the sample couple they use at the beginning kept putting it off until their lives and external conditions met a fussy list of minimal standards which fail to materialize. Judge was doing the same thing he did with King of the Hill; mourning the absence of “good” decent Main Street culture helming the American ship. The trashy people gently caress too much, the useless smarty pants liberal yuppies don’t gently caress at all and the no frills salt of the earth guy hangs out in a basement slacking instead of being the kind of leader you could have a beer with. Though he uses IQ as a qualifier in the movie a lot, he’s really pissing and moaning that the useless rich and depraved poor aren’t being kept in line by decent normal folk, because those who should fill that role need to grow up and take their place, bound by tradition and holding the cultural line. —- I agree with OP and transmet is the future.
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May 17, 2020 09:08
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what if it turns out to be necroscope
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May 17, 2020 13:00
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People always criticize Idiocracy's premise in a way that's like criticizing Ghostbusters because ghosts don't exist. It probably would have been better if the movie just never explained why everyone in the future was so stupid, even if only because so many people wouldn't take it so seriously.
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May 17, 2020 14:00
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:People always criticize Idiocracy's premise in a way that's like criticizing Ghostbusters because ghosts don't exist. It probably would have been better if the movie just never explained why everyone in the future was so stupid, even if only because so many people wouldn't take it so seriously. Well it could have helped if the premise of the film wasn't the premise of racialist eugenics.
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May 17, 2020 14:50
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Fish of hemp posted:Well it could have helped if the premise of the film wasn't the premise of racialist eugenics. Adding to this, idk what Ghostbusters is asking but it isn't "what would happen if ghosts were real?" Idiocracy is shouting on a streetcorner "what if society is getting dumber and the only way to stop it is to stop poor people from loving?!" while wearing a sign that reads mysterious frankie posted:trashy people gently caress too much, the useless smarty pants liberal yuppies don’t gently caress at all and the no frills salt of the earth guy hangs out in a basement slacking instead of being the kind of leader you could have a beer with. so even if you get rid of the sign, it will remain a gross movie. Also OP the future is going to be The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. Inhospitably hot Earth? Yep. Forced exile to even more inhospitable colonies? That too. Commercialized communal psychadelic barbie experience to escape the misery? You know it! Mars sucks and has psychic coyotes? Oh yeah. Pretty much everything except the part where truffles replace money sounds accurate to me.
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May 17, 2020 16:42
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I haven't seen that movie, although I've seen bits and pieces of it. What gets me is that it seems completely unnecessary to explain the problem with eugenics. You can just say societies getting dumber, whether that's true or not, because it is, without saying that it's because the wrong people are having babies.
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May 17, 2020 17:22
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kraken! posted:so even if you get rid of the sign, it will remain a gross movie. No def. I’m just saying that if you get hung up on judge’s use of IQ- which literally everyone does- you miss his pretty consistent social philosophy, which is that the geniuses and dummies are two extremes of a degenerate spectrum, and the only truly moral people that can save the world are, I guess, the adults he grew up around in the suburbs. Silicon Valley is sorta the sister to Idiocracy, showing what Judge thinks happens when the intellectuals have too much control over levers of power (takes place in Silicon Valley because west coast stemlords with more money than sense is the closest he really gets to “intellectual” circles). It’s all kinda fascist, like what Judge really wants is a strong daddy class- dressed like IBM cubicle drones during the day and Hank Hill at night- maintaining our culture and industry and giving people like himself a place to play and gently subvert.
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May 17, 2020 18:18
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Yeah I wasn't trying to disagree with your take at all, especially since you seem like you know way more about Mike Judge and his work than I do. I just quoted you to appreciate that you were more accurate and succinct about the whole deal.
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May 17, 2020 21:02
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Idiocracy but they replace the prologue with the final scene from Planet of the Apes only to pan up to the Statue of Liberty and it has Trump's face on it. But really it's Transmetropolitan. There are so many little subtle things about that setting that were so prescient.
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May 18, 2020 15:19
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The sign's are all pointing to the Fourth Stimpire. Of course we'll need to get through stimpires one through three first.
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May 18, 2020 21:24
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kraken! posted:Yeah I wasn't trying to disagree with your take at all, especially since you seem like you know way more about Mike Judge and his work than I do. I just quoted you to appreciate that you were more accurate and succinct about the whole deal. I’m a real judgehead.
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May 18, 2020 21:32
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Battle Angel Alita, except instead of whatever weird confusing thing that happens when Alita gets to Tipheres, Tipheres is just kind of a shithole that is marginally further away from where they dump their trash. The wealthy will certainly try to abandon the planet to maintain their own utopia up above. It won't work. They'll have damned themselves on this world with the rest of us. If it does work, they'll recreate the same horrible conditions that destroyed the Earth in the first place, because they'd have to fundamentally change in order to change their course, and nobody who can afford to create that sort of thing is going to try hammering out social equality in their new paradise. More realistically, Pikachu's Electric Boogaloo, the issue where there's just an entire city that sunk into the sea, and it's not really explained or worried about in any way, just well that city's gone and you gotta go diving for the old stuff. There's fancy technology like robot suits and computers with holographic displays that you can fit in your pocket, but they don't make the world any better in any meaningful way, just a little different.
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May 25, 2020 07:24
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It's definitely not most people, but there is a weird stripe of people who want a Violence Jack kind-of world in every corner of the globe and it's frightening.
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May 25, 2020 08:47
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Since this is phrased as "franchise" then I guess the answer is "The Twilight Zone," as the episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street" is exactly what is happening right now but replace aliens with a virus
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May 25, 2020 21:44
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At the moment The Naked Sun is starting to feel a bit prescient.
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font color sea posted:Threads Basically, move next to a high-value target so you can get killed at once in the initial attack, because gently caress that poo poo.
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Jun 1, 2020 17:10
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Probably Cowboy Bebop. Not the living on Mars and space bounty hunter stuff, but the way the moon gets blown up by people not using adequate safety measures.
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Defiance Industries posted:Probably Cowboy Bebop. Not the living on Mars and space bounty hunter stuff, but the way the moon gets blown up by people not using adequate safety measures. Similarly the 2000s time machine film wherein the moon explodes due to shoddy work making a senior retirement community
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I keep waiting for Children of Men to become the classic it was obviously destined to be but I swear the more its prescience becomes apparent the more forgotten it seems to get. It still is a classic, and I will never forget! From Roger Ebert's review of it in 2006: quote:Watching "Children of Men," which creates a London in ruins, I realized after a point that the sets and art design were so well done that I took it as a real place. Often I fear it will all come to this, that the rule of law and the rights of men will be destroyed by sectarian mischief and nationalistic recklessness. Are we living in the last good times?
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Jun 9, 2020 01:36
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Children of Men isn't a classic though. Like it's really really good, but it's mostly a marvel of production and actors and a good-enough script. There's no real new ground being tread anywhere in that entire movie, right down to Michael Caine's painfully out-of-date Boomer hippie.
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Jun 9, 2020 02:05
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mind the walrus posted:Like it's really really good, but it's mostly a marvel of production and actors and a good-enough script. There's no real new ground being tread anywhere in that entire movie Take away the "production" part and you've also described Casablanca. But we may be getting far afield. Does it resemble the future? I'd say it got the outlines of its near future down pretty well in a way I don't really think any its contemporaries did: rising nationalism, casual police brutality, low-level nihilism among the population. Maybe it's a mood more than anything but it got that mood right.
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(I agree that Jasper's the weakest part of the movie though)
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I agree Children of Men definitely evokes the mood of the moment better than any sci-fi movie of the 00s, but honestly A Scanner Darkly feels more like the actual future of apathetic selfishness, right down to Alex Jones and a system that feeds back into itself even when actors in said system are doing their level best to make headway.
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