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Still think Jan was robbed of a much higher placement. You would think that being extra is a positive attribute for being a drag queen. Personally I think Jaida is the strongest candidate for winning this season. In terms of production optics, she would be the first black pageant queen since... Tyra. That's a long rear end time! Gigi is a campier version of Aquaria/Violet and probably one of the least interesting queens in a season full of weirdos. Crystal is definitely a behind the others in terms of overall drag but that's okay because she'd make for a really fun All Stars season. The only thing that sucks for her is that she would be a shoe in for Miss Congeniality if she wasn't on the same season as Heidi.
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Eej posted:Still think Jan was robbed of a much higher placement. You would think that being extra is a positive attribute for being a drag queen. While I like Jan, the only queen that beat her undeservedly was arguably Widow and I can’t really cry about one placement. It’s possible if Jan had got some actual critique earlier she would have been able to turn down being full blast all the time that may have allowed her more success. But of what we were shown she’s more or less in the right placement. I’m also Team Jaida, but I wouldn’t mind any of the 3 winning, honestly.
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# ? May 17, 2020 22:25 |
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Jan was kind of boned by being safe constantly imo, yeah. She's super talented and super high energy, but she was also super one note for me and by halfway through the season the magic was gone for me. If she had more time with the judges maybe she could have course corrected some.
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# ? May 17, 2020 23:36 |
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Jan...more like...BLAND Got 'em
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# ? May 18, 2020 00:09 |
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esperterra posted:Jan was kind of boned by being safe constantly imo, yeah. She's super talented and super high energy, but she was also super one note for me and by halfway through the season the magic was gone for me. I feel exactly the same about Gigi, she looks great but she struggles with anything else.
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# ? May 18, 2020 01:26 |
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Do you think Gigi got her Vegas prize... Before?
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# ? May 18, 2020 01:39 |
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Pinwiz11 posted:Do you think Gigi got her Vegas prize... Before? and the prize is mandatory
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# ? May 18, 2020 01:50 |
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Gigi undoubtably did better than Nicki in performances and I know that's not just a thing but the main thing but drat man, everything Nicki brought was so much better than Gigi
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# ? May 18, 2020 02:50 |
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Bertha the Toaster posted:I feel exactly the same about Gigi, she looks great but she struggles with anything else. I wouldn’t necessarily say that. I thought she was great in Snatch and the Rusicals, and really good in Worst and Gay’s Anatomy. If she has time to prepare she does well. What Gigi is bad at is thinking on her feet and course correcting when things don’t go as planned.
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# ? May 18, 2020 03:00 |
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Just watched the newest episode last night and the most moment was when they said Sherry is 27 years old. What the gently caress? She looks my age, and I'm old as balls.
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# ? May 18, 2020 04:49 |
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Yeah I keep forgetting Sherry is four loving years younger than me 'til someone brings it up.
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Trig Discipline posted:Just watched the newest episode last night and the most moment was when they said Sherry is 27 years old. What the gently caress? She looks my age, and I'm old as balls. Husband and I had the same reaction. Still can't quite get our heads around it. The Sherry shaped hole stemming from the hacksaw edit which WoW scrambled to poo poo out in time for broadcast has been one of the most entertaining things about this season TBH. I wonder if Ru and Michelle have had footage of them being effusive towards Sherry permanently deleted so that it never sees the light of day again! The final Untucked of any given season is already a boring drama-free slog, but the lack of content was especially apparent in this week's "clip show" version of Untucked.
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# ? May 18, 2020 06:29 |
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My theory is that sherry was given a villain edit and their legal department said they couldn't actually do that for whatever reason, the way they did the edit was so weird
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# ? May 18, 2020 08:06 |
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:My theory is that sherry was given a villain edit and their legal department said they couldn't actually do that for whatever reason, the way they did the edit was so weird she couldn't possibly have survived without lipsyncing if that was the case, especially for how much of a nonpresence she ended up being I'd literally bet $100 she was the narrator of the season and had ten bajillion confessionals, and is therefore why we have so much particularly crystal and jackie in the take we got. she had so many confessionals in ep 2.
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# ? May 18, 2020 12:13 |
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Zvahl posted:she couldn't possibly have survived without lipsyncing if that was the case, especially for how much of a nonpresence she ended up being This is the right take. In what little we do see of her, the judges have nothing but praises, and the other queens seem to really enjoy her. If they had the negative footage, they would use it. She had everyone fooled.
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# ? May 18, 2020 13:09 |
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I still can't believe she's not 45. I wonder how many creepy comments about Gigi or any of the others were lost in the Sherry edit. If everything is true, and it appears that a lot is based on Sherry's comments and apology, then I could see her being comfortable hitting on the others. MichiganCubbie fucked around with this message at 14:23 on May 18, 2020 |
# ? May 18, 2020 14:21 |
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Sherry sure was busting a nut over Jaida's shoulders in her talking head in episode 2! I wouldn't be surprised if Sherry was also hitting on others, either directly or in her confessionals. I can't tell if I'm surprised they didn't edit out Sherry's multiple lyrics about "force feeding" throughout the season, or if I 100% would have expected them to leave that in.
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# ? May 18, 2020 15:36 |
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Ironic Twist posted:Jan...more like...BLAND <>
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# ? May 18, 2020 18:33 |
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Is this the first season where they didn't have a heart-to-heart tictac/podcast/whatever in the penultimate episode? Or maybe they did have one, but cut it out completely just because it would've been awkward whether or not they kept that one queen's part
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# ? May 19, 2020 00:28 |
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I kind of wonder if a Top 4 was originally planned, in which case...shouldn't Jackie also be in the running? My brain is Team Jaida and my heart is Team Crystal. Gigi isn't even in my top five of the season.
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# ? May 19, 2020 00:31 |
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I figure since the finale isn't going to be a lipsync battle, so 3 works better than 4 with whatever shortened format they're going with plus it would be hard to edit around Jackie's very explicit dismissal. My idea for the finale is they each got a camera and had to produce their very own "social media ready" music video or whatever in the confines of their quarantine bunker. Read After Burning posted:My brain is Team Jaida and my heart is Team Crystal. Gigi isn't even in my top five of the season. Same. Crystal is so drat adorkable. Jaida is polished as hell and very likeable in her own right. Gigi is okay but she sometimes comes across too much as "My PhD parent helped me with my science project." even though she's clearly talented too.
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# ? May 19, 2020 00:45 |
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Read After Burning posted:I kind of wonder if a Top 4 was originally planned, in which case...shouldn't Jackie also be in the running? A Top 4 most certainly was planned, but with Sherry's disqualification and the fact they can't film a normal finale, I imagine paring it down to a Top 3 again makes the whole 'digital finale' thing easier to figure out. But we might get a surprise 'Jackie is taking the 4th spot!' moment in the reunion or finale itself.
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# ? May 19, 2020 02:27 |
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big black turnout posted:Just getting caught up but on the topic of last week: RuPaul used to drop acid at least once a week. So either he was feigning ignorance, or he's simply forgotten most of that era. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiXdIdAgHzE
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# ? May 19, 2020 04:24 |
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Read After Burning posted:I kind of wonder if a Top 4 was originally planned, in which case...shouldn't Jackie also be in the running? Jackie should be top 4 but it doesn't really matter because imo they're throwing it to Gigi regardless. But despite the obvious rigging Jackie had an amazing showing, talk about charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent! I think she won that lipsync against Crystal as well, Jackie has amazing secret lipsync skills. The vegas show seems incredibly dire. Cafe Barbarian fucked around with this message at 19:01 on May 19, 2020 |
# ? May 19, 2020 18:58 |
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Crowning a queen who bombed the political challenge for not being engaged in politics on a season that ends every episode with a sign saying vote would be quite 2020.
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# ? May 19, 2020 19:38 |
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gandlethorpe posted:Crowning a queen who bombed the political challenge for not being engaged in politics on a season that ends every episode with a sign saying vote would be quite 2020. Every time the judges heap praise on her, my partner throws his hands up in disgust, and I hit him with the good ol'
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# ? May 19, 2020 19:44 |
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Yeah, Jackie was awesome this season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu3ccumh-Ds
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# ? May 19, 2020 19:54 |
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If Ru wanted a camp queen to make it to the finale, he should've picked the good one.
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# ? May 19, 2020 20:19 |
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I have a handful of comments 1. It's nice to know that Sherry came out of the gate strong but kind of petered out over the course of the season 2. Crystal was read almost immediately for her same same makeup that covered her face entirely and yet here we are, at the finale, and Sherry is still painting like Homer's makeup gun week after week and nobody is bringing it up. I think she's just this season's "big girl" free ride to the top 4. 3. Even were Sherry not a horror of a human being, I think this season was always going to Jaida. (Barring some extreme finale shenanigans like Sasha's Roses.) She is an extremely well rounded queen that brings flawless looks and good performances, but is honestly lacking in energy and TV personality compared to her peers. Gives me an extremely Kennedy vibe. It makes the most sense for production to take her out of the pool of All Stars candidates, while they're foaming at the mouth to have Crystal/Jackie/Heidi return. Even Gigi could have an "I'm confident/injected now" All Stars run. I can't see Jaida ever having that. 4. I hear what the others are saying about Jan- there's something to be said about the dangers of being perpetually safe early in the season. She never got a storyline attached to her, and, RIP. 5. Yikes at that Vegas show.
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# ? May 19, 2020 20:23 |
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It would be really nice to have a classic pageant queen in the winner's circle. Sure Trinity won All Stars, but lbr by the time she was on All Stars she had kinda given up pageants already and was leaning further into the talents she discovered during S9. stan Jaida stan excellence
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# ? May 19, 2020 20:28 |
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Speaking of looks > talent, I've never actually seen Season 2 (other than a Best of Jujubee compliation, aka my All Stars 5 winner ). I hear a lot of folks, at least at the time, accused Tyra of only winning due to favoritism and/or being pretty. Is this actually correct? Do any of y'all have any opinions, particularly any OG fans who watched the early seasons as they aired? I'm a relative latecomer to the RPDR phenomenon, as I only hopped on during Season 9. I know the actual answer is "Watch it yourself", but I really dislike Raven and don't know if I can deal with an entire season of her.
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# ? May 19, 2020 20:45 |
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Read After Burning posted:Speaking of looks > talent, I've never actually seen Season 2 (other than a Best of Jujubee compliation, aka my All Stars 5 winner ). I hear a lot of folks, at least at the time, accused Tyra of only winning due to favoritism and/or being pretty. A poignant example of why people hate Tyra is the wedding episode- they go out of their way to show how Tyra finishes her look early, and goes out of her way to be a loud nuisance to make it difficult for the other queens to work. Tatianna calls her out on it on the main stage, and all the queens agree with her. Tyra is then immediately awarded the win. She's got a heck of an ego on her and it grinds all season.
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:00 |
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Raven owns, you should watch every season with Raven in it Ru was really, blatantly enamoured with Tyra and there are multiple times where you think she should be out but mysteriously stayed on
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:01 |
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Raven and Tyra are both amazing, so talented and great TV. Watch it. I never felt Tyra was undeserved
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:06 |
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Raven is my favourite Ru Girl not named Willam or Jinkx. Tyra won season 2. She loving slayed it. People disliked her because she didn't get on well with the girls, and sometimes would just coast by on the immunities she kept winning because she could. Raven was the more popular choice because, while she was also a complete bitch, she was a charismatic and funny one joined at the hip with fan fave Juju. Tyra arguably performed better all season. She was never in the bottom. Raven spent much of the first half of the season low or in the bottom. Top that off with her completely loving slaying the final lip sync (god I miss when the top 2 would lip sync and they'd crown a bitch on the spot. gently caress you perez hilton) and as much as I wanted Raven to win, Tyra deserved it. Besides, who really won in the end? Raven out here being Ru's new Mathu Anderson. e: like back when it aired i was sad raven lost but i wasn't angry tyra won. she did so loving well and had the best track record. back then the person with the best track record basically always won. the only time it was really a real toss up was raja and manila, who were tied w/r/t performance all year. and even then you knew raja was winning from day loving one really e2: i miss when you would win immunity and then they'd remove it halfway thru the season
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:07 |
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Read After Burning posted:Speaking of looks > talent, I've never actually seen Season 2 (other than a Best of Jujubee compliation, aka my All Stars 5 winner ). I hear a lot of folks, at least at the time, accused Tyra of only winning due to favoritism and/or being pretty. Raven Was Robbed is a common take on S2. I don't know if that's entirely true, Tyra was absolutely gorgeous on the runway. Tyra is no longer performing drag. My take is she's not a very nice person which resulted in her not booking many gigs (also RPDR wasn't huge until season 4 or so anyway) and she didn't handle social media well at all. She got a lot of online hatred and partly in response was really hostile, abusive, and threatened violence on social media. Sort of a cautionary tale like with how Phi Phi is treated. They were shady bitches early in RPDR before most queens realized they had to play nice on TV or get buried in endless hatred from social media. edit: I'd agree that the crown could have gone to either Tyra or Raven, they both deserved it. Tyra just royally hosed up everything after Drag Race, she didn't use her fifteen minutes of fame well, her career didn't get much of a boost, and she was really bitter about it all. Fritz the Horse fucked around with this message at 21:15 on May 19, 2020 |
# ? May 19, 2020 21:10 |
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The intense hatred she had during the season and then after her win certainly didn't help her attitude. But her behaviour after the fact has always been a dumb reason imo to complain that Raven didn't win. Tyra won fair and square, Raven beat out every other queen than her which is a loving amazing accomplishment. Besides, after AS1 it gaves us the blessed and eternal in joke of Raven always taking second place.
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:18 |
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Oh, god, immunity from winning the mini-challenges! I completely forgot about that. Mini-challenges have felt so boring compared to past seasons. We were doing re-watch of Season 6, and seeing some queens no doubt mess up their entrance looks by jumping into foam pit (or the water photoshoot from S5) made me think of how mundane the mini-challenges have seemed lately. I still love Vivacious so much, and I demand to see Jaidynn Diore Fierce on my TV screen again. Edit: my All Stars dream cast includes Jaymes Mansfield (in my top 5 all-time favs, watch her on Youtube!), Jaidynn, Joslyn, Ms. Kasha Davis, and Max, if they aren't too peeved from how they were apparently treated with the S7 edit. Read After Burning fucked around with this message at 21:23 on May 19, 2020 |
# ? May 19, 2020 21:21 |
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Raven "no chocolate no rice" lost all my respect when she called Bob the Drag Queen the equivalent of an affirmative action win or some other dumb poo poo. Then came out a long list of racism from her against black queens. Anyways, Bob had to deal with that which royally sucked. But then Tyra also threatened to blow up drag con. So in my mind jujubee is the true winner of s2
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# ? May 19, 2020 21:22 |
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Read After Burning posted:Oh, god, immunity from winning the mini-challenges! I completely forgot about that. Mini-challenges have felt so boring compared to past seasons. We were doing re-watch of Season 6, and seeing some queens no doubt mess up their entrance looks by jumping into foam pit (or the water photoshoot from S5) made me think of how mundane the mini-challenges have seemed lately. I think immunity was for the following episode when you won the main challenge, and Tyra was a large part of the reason they stopped doing that.
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