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CidGregor posted:Should I know who that person is? Katherine Applegate's husband and co-creator.
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# ? May 16, 2020 01:07 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I don't see how you make a book serial into a film yeah in all honestly it’d be much better served if you sold like HBO on a gritty* animated series *I know this term gets a bad rap but the violence/gore gets pretty wild and to actually see it on the screen would shove its rating way outside the YA range of the books
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# ? May 16, 2020 01:14 |
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There is an Animorphs comic book/graphic novel of The Invasion coming out this fall. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083W1LYY6/
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# ? May 16, 2020 02:19 |
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I reckon my ideal would be a three season TV show. 10 or so episodes per season, ditch the filler, and you've got a solid show right there.
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# ? May 16, 2020 02:52 |
cptn_dr posted:I reckon my ideal would be a three season TV show. 10 or so episodes per season, ditch the filler, and you've got a solid show right there. poo poo, you're pretty much on the money first ten books, second ten books, the megamorphs specials (except maybe the crazy as poo poo what if the andalite never arrived one) and the chronicles specials as double episodes or something, then the final ten books i'm sold
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# ? May 16, 2020 02:57 |
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Animorphs-Retro-Tin-Set-Scholastic/dp/1338678833/ Scholastic are re-releasing the first 6 books, in the UK at least. And the original covers. This brought up the previous attempts covers and my god no wonder that failed. Those were just ugly! Man, I loved Animorphs so much, but only made it to 17 I think, then a few randoms nearer the end. I have the horrible feeling I put most of my old copies out to charity shops, which this read through is really making me regret. But I did come across book 8, which I am rereading just now. Tobias and <spoiler> were always my favs.
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# ? May 16, 2020 10:56 |
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I always liked the Animorph covers, they along with the UK Goosebumps covers being a different hideous and garish colour each time really made them stand out.
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# ? May 16, 2020 11:50 |
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The Invasion-Chapter 13quote:Talking to Rachel helped. A little, anyway. I spent the night in my little drawer in Jake's attic. I spent the next day flying around, waiting for my friends to get out of school. In some ways, I realized, my situation wasn't all bad. For one thing, I had no homework. For another, I could fly. How many average kids can hit forty miles per hour in level flight and break eighty in a stoop - a dive? So those are the advantages and disadvantages of hawk/human. No homework vs no deep sleeps, showers, and knowing what time it is. quote:In the afternoon I flew back to the school. I drifted around overhead till it let out. Then I waited till I saw Jake, Rachel, Cassie, and Marco come out. They came out separately. Marco had pointed out that it was bad security for them to be seen together all the time. Marco says that, but is it really true? Marco and Jake are best friends, Rachel and Cassie are best friends, Jake and Rachel are cousins. It seems like they have a natural, easily explainable reason to hang out together. quote:I followed the bus with Jake and Rachel in it. They lived closest, just a few blocks away from each other. Marco lived in some apartments on the other side of the boulevard. He lived with just his dad, since his mom drowned a few years ago. How much, do you think, is this Tobias believing this, or how much is it him trying to convince himself? quote:I floated on a nice thermal above Jake's house, waiting for him to get home. I saw him get off the bus and go inside. I couldn't see Rachel from where I was because there were trees in the way, but I did see Marco for just a second or two. This, honestly, seems like an extremely terrible idea, and Jake hasn't even explained it yet.
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# ? May 16, 2020 23:48 |
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Epicurius posted:The Invasion-Chapter 13 It's a good idea in the sense that it's close to the only idea that might work. But it's still a terrible idea. quote:
This quoted section made me wince with very future memories.
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# ? May 17, 2020 00:15 |
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Kchama posted:This quoted section made me wince with very future memories. The old "they haven't yet means they can't" line of thinking. Never, ever a good sign if you're rooting for the person expressing it.
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# ? May 17, 2020 01:12 |
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Epicurius posted:Marco says that, but is it really true? Marco and Jake are best friends, Rachel and Cassie are best friends, Jake and Rachel are cousins. It seems like they have a natural, easily explainable reason to hang out together. This might be them being overcautious. But they did make a point of saying that Jake and Rachel weren't especially close cousins beforehand, and Marco basically had minimal interaction with Cassie and only slightly more with Rachel. Yeah, they could have become closer as a group in the last few weeks, but if they get Chapman's or Tom's suspicions up, they're hosed. "Easily explainable" doesn't work when the probable consequence isn't "had to try to explain themselves," it's "were made into Controllers so the Yeerks could find out exactly why they were doing what they were doing."
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# ? May 17, 2020 01:14 |
Epicurius posted:The Invasion-Chapter 13 The funny thing is, when I read this as a kid it seemed like a plausible idea. Get sucked up, break loose, wreak havoc. As an adult who works on ships for a living... well, assuming you could get into the tanks without being shredded by the pumps, you would never get out. Tanks are sealed from the outside and unless you're one of those ultra-rare plasma cutter fish, welp. But don't tell Jake this, dude's got hella moxie.
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# ? May 17, 2020 01:48 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:The funny thing is, when I read this as a kid it seemed like a plausible idea. Get sucked up, break loose, wreak havoc. came here to say this, basically. if not for narrative convenience this would very probably get them killed.
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# ? May 17, 2020 02:05 |
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The part that gets me is that they never realize here that, while the Yeerks may have some difficulty infesting Earth by stealth right now, they could almost certainly take Earth over by force quite easily. Anybody with that level of technology has the ability to just sit in orbit and hammer Earth with kinetic energy weapons until Earth gives up, and there's nothing Earth could do about it. They could just sit up there and fling rocks at the planet until Earth agreed to hand over ten million hosts and there's fuckall that five morphing teenagers could do about that.
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# ? May 17, 2020 05:44 |
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Open war would lead to a lot of dead humans, while they could bomb earth easily that would destroy the main resource they are after. The fish plan is so dumb, can't wait to read how it goes wrong.
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# ? May 17, 2020 06:26 |
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Avalerion posted:Open war would lead to a lot of dead humans, while they could bomb earth easily that would destroy the main resource they are after. Also if I recall correctly, the Yeerks also have no real counter for if humanity manages to deploy nuclear weaponry against them. One of the later books sees Visser Two try to engineer a nuclear exchange between the US and China because it will cause maximum global chaos AND deplete the total number of nukes humanity has available to use against the Yeerks when Visser Three's "let's warm up this cold war" plan kicks off in earnest. To the Yeerks, humanity is a rhino stuck in a pit while they're a dude perched on the high ground with a .50 caliber rifle. They can shoot the rhino and more or less kill it at their leisure, but if the rhino somehow manages to get out of the pit, or if they fall into the pit with the rhino, then they are loving dead and they know it. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 06:55 on May 17, 2020 |
# ? May 17, 2020 06:48 |
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It's actually a very interesting story that both sides are in a very dangerous dance where if anyone does the wrong thing and exposes themselves, then it's all over.
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# ? May 17, 2020 09:34 |
The yeerks are guerillas being attacked by gorillas
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# ? May 17, 2020 12:26 |
Khizan posted:The part that gets me is that they never realize here that, while the Yeerks may have some difficulty infesting Earth by stealth right now, they could almost certainly take Earth over by force quite easily. Anybody with that level of technology has the ability to just sit in orbit and hammer Earth with kinetic energy weapons until Earth gives up, and there's nothing Earth could do about it. It's not really touched on now, but I think it's made clear later that if the Yeerks go loud, tipping their hand about what they're trying to do, the Andalites bring their whole fleet. I guess the Andalites don't really do the whole military intelligence thing though, because surely a halfway competent leadership structure would see this big fat juicy target and go ".....yeah, we should probably guard that." Oh god. They're just as dumb as us.
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# ? May 17, 2020 12:34 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:It's not really touched on now, but I think it's made clear later that if the Yeerks go loud, tipping their hand about what they're trying to do, the Andalites bring their whole fleet. The Andalites are also fighting the war on other fronts, including a very juicy target at Leera. So their resources are stretched and they can't commit when they aren't sure of an immediate threat. But mostly I just think they're super arrogant and bad at assessing Yeerk capabilities. edited for spoiler wizzardstaff fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 17, 2020 |
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Khizan posted:The part that gets me is that they never realize here that, while the Yeerks may have some difficulty infesting Earth by stealth right now, they could almost certainly take Earth over by force quite easily. Anybody with that level of technology has the ability to just sit in orbit and hammer Earth with kinetic energy weapons until Earth gives up, and there's nothing Earth could do about it. Being a living prisoner in your own body sounds so hellish that I bet most people would rather straight up die by asteroid, I know would. On the Andalite thing, while they have FTL travel it's later established that it's not instant. Even if the Andalites are on their way right now it could take years. my bad, added spoiler tag vvvv OctaviusBeaver fucked around with this message at 04:30 on May 18, 2020 |
# ? May 17, 2020 15:19 |
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Let's not talk too much unspoiled about what we might or might not learn from future books, ok?
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# ? May 17, 2020 15:31 |
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Epicurius posted:Thanks! Hope you're liking the thread. You're welcome, and thanks to the mod for the new thread title - the one I used lasted about five minutes.
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# ? May 17, 2020 17:04 |
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Khizan posted:The part that gets me is that they never realize here that, while the Yeerks may have some difficulty infesting Earth by stealth right now, they could almost certainly take Earth over by force quite easily. Anybody with that level of technology has the ability to just sit in orbit and hammer Earth with kinetic energy weapons until Earth gives up, and there's nothing Earth could do about it. In general, Yeerk technology (aside from their FTL travel which an Andalite gave them) seems surprisingly bad. They don't even really seem to use security cameras, IIRC. It's not clear to me that they actually have decent kinetic energy weapons.
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# ? May 17, 2020 18:10 |
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The Encounter-Chapter 14quote:Rachel and Cassie took off, heading in different directions. I think this is Jake's emotional intelligence here. He knows there's something going on. quote:"Okay, so now what?" Marco asked. "Do I sneak into the mall without Rachel being able to see me, or do we all sit around and play Doom?" "Things were more complicated than we thought" is really a pretty good subtitle for the series. quote:Remembering the mall made me sad. It was just another one of the places I couldn't go anymore. There was a long list: school, movie theaters, amusement parks . . . This is basically just rationalization, as I see it. quote:If only I had something to eat. I was feeling a little hungry. Should have asked Jake to grab me a snack. Oh, Tobias. So this is obviously a big deal for him, because Tobias has been scared all this time that he's losing himself. He's no longer a human, he no longer remembers what human Tobias looks like, he can no longer do the stuff he's used to doing, and now he basically gave into instinct and killed and ate a rat. Earlier in the book, when Marco teases him, Jake defends Tobias, comparing the idea of it to when lizard Jake ate the spider in the first book. But, obviously, the context is different. As disgusted as Jake was by what he did, he knew that he was a person in the form of a lizard, and that he'd change back to "him". Tobias doesn't have that.
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# ? May 18, 2020 02:13 |
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I came across this in a "doesn't this make you feel old" compilation album:
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# ? May 18, 2020 04:48 |
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I'd never known until recently that the Andalite Chronicles was initially published in three separate volumes.
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# ? May 18, 2020 04:58 |
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Epicurius posted:I think this is Jake's emotional intelligence here. He knows there's something going on. I give KAA a lot of credit for trying to do so much "show, don't tell" in books with a fourth-grade reading level, but I don't think she always nails it quite right. This is a particularly good example, because even if Jake wasn't my least favorite, when I was younger I found him (as many others did, it seems) dreadfully boring, because one of his primary character traits is that he's exceptionally emotionally perceptive and intelligent, but that's really hard to get across through his actions in books written from the other kids' perspectives. Also, because of that trait, arguably his primary character arc is going from using that emotional intelligence to try to take care of his friends to using it to be a better strategist, and even though that gets spelled out later, it doesn't hit as hard when you're nine years old and the constant, subtle build has gone over your head. Epicurius posted:Oh, Tobias. Speaking of things that people didn't do in books with a fourth-grade reading level... Yeah, having the two incidents so close together really highlights the contrast and really makes you feel bad for Tobias. Jake was freaked and grossed out by eating the spider, but he was relatively easily able to associate the act with the lizard's instincts, not Jake's own, and fix his bad feelings on "failing to control the lizard brain" instead of on "being a spider-eater." Tobias can't. The hawk's instincts are Tobias's instincts now. The hawk's brain is Tobias's brain. Not only can he not rationalize it away, and not only is he already hurt by, as you said, his increasing distance from his human self, but this happens and simultaneously feels like slamming the door on that human self and emphasizing that Tobias's attempts to avoid giving in to the hawk were always doomed to fail. (and people wonder why this series was so popular with trans kids...)
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# ? May 18, 2020 17:58 |
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Chapter 15quote:I flew. I could comment further here. I could talk about the mall stores that don't exist anymore, and all that. I'm not going to.
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# ? May 18, 2020 23:51 |
It looks to me like the real solution to keep Tobias in check is for the Animorphs to make bulk purchases of birdseed.
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# ? May 19, 2020 00:02 |
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I didn't even notice the mall stores that didn't exist. Holy poo poo, she put this in a kids book? And we're only just getting started?!
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# ? May 19, 2020 01:28 |
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disaster pastor posted:Speaking of things that people didn't do in books with a fourth-grade reading level... Not an emptyquote.
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# ? May 19, 2020 01:33 |
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Everyone loves Animorphs, the kids series where teens have fun animal adventures! *3 books later* We regret to inform you the hawk boy attempted suicide
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# ? May 19, 2020 02:07 |
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This is just an overall observation, don't read too much into it... But it genuinely amazes me how Animorphs never got put on any banned books lists. At least any that I'm aware of.
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# ? May 19, 2020 03:08 |
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Agaragon posted:This is just an overall observation, don't read too much into it... I think a lot of it just slipped under the radar. They were thin kids books with kind of goofy covers, and came out at the same time as the Goosebumps books, which were a lot more popular, and it was Goosebumps that got most of the attention from the would be censors. It is kind of ironic, obviously, because Animorphs touched on a bunch of more mature topics, but they were wrapped around stories of kids turning into tigers and bears and hawks, and so the actual stuff in the books didn't get noticed.
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# ? May 19, 2020 03:29 |
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KID'S FUN READING QUIZ- CHAPTER 15 1. Draw the animal you would most like to be! 2. Unscramble these words: HAKW MSOUE SQRRULIE 3. When Tobias seeks solace in oblivion and fails, what causes him more pain: the knowledge that he failed, or the fact that he tried?
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# ? May 19, 2020 05:05 |
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Agaragon posted:This is just an overall observation, don't read too much into it... Probably because the book doesn't actually call out the suicide attempt explicitly. Like how when anime ran on kids networks none ever died, they "passed to another plane" or whatever.
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# ? May 19, 2020 06:33 |
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Avalerion posted:Probably because the book doesn't actually call out the suicide attempt explicitly. Like how when anime ran on kids networks none ever died, they "passed to another plane" or whatever. First-run Dragonball Z dub was really fond of "sent to the next dimension." Even as a kid I thought that was cheesy as hell. But yeah, drat, I forgot all about this whole "splat myself in the mall" sequence. And he specifically goes to where he knows Rachel is to do it, like he wants her to see it. That's way more unsettling to read now.
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# ? May 19, 2020 08:55 |
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CidGregor posted:First-run Dragonball Z dub was really fond of "sent to the next dimension." Even as a kid I thought that was cheesy as hell. DBZ is arguably the one series where that works since that's pretty much what death is, you even get to train while there.
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