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Toph Bei Fong posted:I really enjoyed hbomberguy's video on Sherlock and why it's bad: the whole appeal of the Conan Doyle Sherlock stories is that they're self-contained, they teach you things, and they involve mysteries that you, the reader, can possibly put together and enjoy having your guess confirmed at the end of the story. People talk about the resolution of Holmes' return being an insult to the Sherlock's audience but to me it wasn't half as bad as the other mystery in that episode. An expert on the London Underground posted:The last train on the Friday night, Westminster station, and this man gets into the last car...the only passenger. And the car is empty at St James’s Park station. Explain that, Mr Holmes. There’s nowhere he could go. It’s a straight run on the District Line between the two stations. There’s no side tunnels, no maintenance tunnels – nothing on any map. Nothing. The train never stops, and the man vanishes. The resolution? The expert was wrong and there was somewhere in between. He even has a map of it.
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Jamie Faith posted:So far they're dealing with the fake woke stuff much better in their Picard vid then in previous vids. As we all know, they can be kinda clumsy and unclear when they call out cynical corporate attempts at being woke to the point where some people think the RLM guys are chuds. In the Picard review, RLM is straight up yelling at the creators to make Picard gay ("Do it you cowards!") instead of making some minor "safe" character gay. Glad to see they're getting better at this stuff. Just got to this bit in the video and also genuinely relieved they're getting better at expressing frustration with the whole fake woke stuff for it's hollowness and hypocrisy, rather than acting dismissive and setting off the CHUD whistles. Really put me off their videos in the past. Also jfc what the hell is this show and who was it meant to appeal to. RLM have explained the plot 10 times now and I still don't get it in the slightest, an ouroboros of half-baked ideas and character assassination on a mass scale. The modern Trek obsession with being as pointlessly cynical and dark as possible is just... mind boggling
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SteelMentor posted:Also jfc what the hell is this show and who was it meant to appeal to. RLM have explained the plot 10 times now and I still don't get it in the slightest, an ouroboros of half-baked ideas and character assassination on a mass scale. The modern Trek obsession with being as pointlessly cynical and dark as possible is just... mind boggling Alex Kurtzman is the real clonus horror.
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# ? May 19, 2020 06:36 |
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I never watched Sherlock when it was on, so when I saw a “mind palace” scene for the first time I thought it was the prestige TV equivalent of a poo poo post. Did people really take that seriously back when it was hot?
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Unlucky7 posted:I never watched Sherlock when it was on, so when I saw a “mind palace” scene for the first time I thought it was the prestige TV equivalent of a poo poo post. Did people really take that seriously back when it was hot? It started out as a neat augmented-reality type thing where you could see the clues he was noticing and then ramped up to the full-blown LIBERTY INDIANA HOUND bullshit, and people were still willing to forgive the show for the increasingly less occasional excess.
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# ? May 19, 2020 06:51 |
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SteelMentor posted:Also jfc what the hell is this show and who was it meant to appeal to. RLM have explained the plot 10 times now and I still don't get it in the slightest, an ouroboros of half-baked ideas and character assassination on a mass scale. The modern Trek obsession with being as pointlessly cynical and dark as possible is just... mind boggling Seriously. I'm sure the upcoming Section 31 series will show the best side of humanity, though
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SteelMentor posted:Just got to this bit in the video and also genuinely relieved they're getting better at expressing frustration with the whole fake woke stuff for it's hollowness and hypocrisy, rather than acting dismissive and setting off the CHUD whistles. Really put me off their videos in the past. Yeah! I 1000% agree. I actually kinda stopped watching them for a while. This reminds me I have a lot of BotW to catch up on!
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Edit: You know what? Nevermind, who gives a poo poo
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the Sherlock Holmes video game Sherlock Holmes Crimes and Punishments does the mind palace thing better than the tv show itself does by giving you a menu of floating clues that you put together to create brain synapses which, as you collect more and more evidence, branch off toward different conclusions until you have enough synapses that go together that lead toward a final conclusion of the case. because the game lets you visualize how these theories connect to one another, and since you can switch between them to see how different interpretations of the evidence can lead to different conclusions, it actually feels like you're solving a mystery the game also lets you pick an ending where Holmes is complicit in allowing a group of radical socialists to bomb the London Stock Exchange because he agrees with their ideology so that's pretty cool
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SteelMentor posted:Just got to this bit in the video and also genuinely relieved they're getting better at expressing frustration with the whole fake woke stuff for it's hollowness and hypocrisy, rather than acting dismissive and setting off the CHUD whistles. Really put me off their videos in the past. I can tell you exactly what's wrong with Picard, because it's very obvious once the shoe drops late in the season; It's ripping off Mass Effect's plot, verbatim. It even ends on a setup that points right towards ripping off Mass Effect 2's for the following season.
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# ? May 19, 2020 08:50 |
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Sherlock's biggest problem is that the RDJ movies have strengths and failings in all the same areas but are just overall better media.
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# ? May 19, 2020 09:21 |
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The Sherlock tv series does not receive enough credit, amongst other things, for actively advocating for Rupert Murdoch to be shot. Did Robert Downey Jr.'s films have Rupert Murdoch shot? No.
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Alaois posted:the Sherlock Holmes video game Sherlock Holmes Crimes and Punishments does the mind palace thing better than the tv show itself does by giving you a menu of floating clues that you put together to create brain synapses which, as you collect more and more evidence, branch off toward different conclusions until you have enough synapses that go together that lead toward a final conclusion of the case. because the game lets you visualize how these theories connect to one another, and since you can switch between them to see how different interpretations of the evidence can lead to different conclusions, it actually feels like you're solving a mystery game sounds neat
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Calico Heart posted:game sounds neat Decent game. Don't play the sequel. It's probably one of the worst games ever made. At one point Holmes imagines he's navigating a mayan pyramid complete with death-traps. Despite this being in his head it is possible to die here, somehow.
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Todd covers the hot new song of the lockdown, a viral tiktok sensation from hot newcomer *checks notes*... Drake https://youtu.be/qU9iPQW1rLI
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Decent game. Don't play the sequel. It's probably one of the worst games ever made. At one point Holmes imagines he's navigating a mayan pyramid complete with death-traps. Despite this being in his head it is possible to die here, somehow. game sounds neat
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Terrible Opinions posted:Sherlock's biggest problem is that the RDJ movies have strengths and failings in all the same areas but are just overall better media. Ha, I was about to say the Mind Palace analytical stuff is in the Guy Ritchie movies, too, and way better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLuhWLNqpiA&t=117s Unlike a lot of the Sherlock ones you get a slo-mo breakdown of how quickly Holmes can analyze a scene and come to a conclusion while following his reasoning the whole way, while in Sherlock you mostly see a lot of graphics shooting around a twitching Benedict Cumberbatch. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 13:59 on May 19, 2020 |
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Decent game. Don't play the sequel. It's probably one of the worst games ever made. At one point Holmes imagines he's navigating a mayan pyramid complete with death-traps. Despite this being in his head it is possible to die here, somehow. By the sequel, do you mean The Devil's Daughter? I remember seeing that on sale recently, but forgot to pick it up.
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Max Wilco posted:By the sequel, do you mean The Devil's Daughter? I remember seeing that on sale recently, but forgot to pick it up. Yeah it's bad, which is a shame cause Crime & Punishments is one of the best Holmes things I can think of.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Ha, I was about to say the Mind Palace analytical stuff is in the Guy Ritchie movies, too, and way better: The Guy Ritchie movies and, shockingly, that Elementary show that was on for a while, were both really good at showing Sherlock as a master of deduction while avoiding 'I walked into the room and instantly realized the painting on the left wall was fake because fifty years ago this obscure painting by this never heard from artist was done in springtime, meaning this tiny winter owl painted in the corner couldn't have been out, ergo the butler did the murder' nonsense.
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The second Guy Ritchie film also has a lot of fun playing around with the mind vision scanning stuff. The first time in a fight it gets used normally, the second time something unexpected happens and it invalidates a lot of stuff, and in the third bit Moriarty butts in and the whole fight takes place as a hypothetical between the two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U0KlXwNsCk
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Mr.Radar posted:Seriously. I'm sure the upcoming Section 31 series will show the best side of humanity, though Only the hardest of people making the hardest of decisions. In space. Neelix will be their top operator, re-imagined now a James Bond-style thuggish lothario who drowns the scars for what he's done to keep your prosperous Federation afloat that he's not even a member of with Saurian brandy and one-night stands. His partner will be a bisexual woman who only ever talks about dating women in the past and is never actually shown doing so. Six seasons and a movie.
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Dawgstar posted:Only the hardest of people making the hardest of decisions. In space. Neelix will be their top operator, re-imagined now a James Bond-style thuggish lothario who drowns the scars for what he's done to keep your prosperous Federation afloat that he's not even a member of with Saurian brandy and one-night stands. His partner will be a bisexual woman who only ever talks about dating women in the past and is never actually shown doing so. Six seasons and a movie. Sounds like a way more interesting Neelix than the one we got.
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Neelix was the first positive portrayal of a pedophile in media NOT played by Gerard Depardieu
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The head of Section 31 goes "oh goddamnit Nelix got another double agent pregnant" as Nelix walks in firing akimbo phasers set to stun everywhere. Laugh track; Rich Evans and Mike finally die inside when they cover Star Trek Online.
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So just watched the Picard review IMO, this felt like one of RLM's most muddled reviews so far. Previously, there was at least a sense of fun and reverly in whatever awful media it was they were reviewing. As someone who has never seen more than the odd Trek episode, I enjoyed his Trek reviews quite a bit. This time I didn't really know what the plot of the show was, how it contradicted past lore, and after 90 minutes don't feel like a sound conclusion was even reached on "why thing bad". To be fair, that may reflect the show itself - a boring product made only to sell subscriptions. But then, why spend the time reviewing it anyway?
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marathon Stairmaster sesh posted:Laugh track; Rich Evans and Mike finally die inside when they cover Star Trek Online. Bonus points if they just read STO's chat, which is like Plinkett but un-ironic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEaIRbR2EXk Matt and one of the best wrestling bois takes on the rise and fall of WCW.
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Calico Heart posted:So just watched the Picard review I haven't watched the Plinkett review yet but I did watch Mike and Rich's episode reviews when the show was first coming out, and it became very clear very quick that neither of them were finding any enjoyment in the show. Like by the second video it was clear Rich just wanted to drop the drat thing and move on to media he actually enjoys, and Mike seemed personally offended with how the show handles Star Trek. I disagree with his assertion that Star Trek has to be clean and hopeful and optimistic - I think in the hands of a skilled writer Star Trek could be anything - but Kurtzman is not a skilled writer and so you have a show that runs counter to how Mike fundamentally thinks Star Trek should be, and also does it terribly. So yeah I'm not surprised it comes off more as an unfunny meandering rant than poking the prequels with a stick.
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CmdrKing posted:Todd covers the hot new song of the lockdown, a viral tiktok sensation from hot newcomer *checks notes*... Drake drake being on tiktok sounds like something the authorities should be aware of
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Sydin posted:I haven't watched the Plinkett review yet but I did watch Mike and Rich's episode reviews when the show was first coming out, and it became very clear very quick that neither of them were finding any enjoyment in the show. Like by the second video it was clear Rich just wanted to drop the drat thing and move on to media he actually enjoys, and Mike seemed personally offended with how the show handles Star Trek. I disagree with his assertion that Star Trek has to be clean and hopeful and optimistic - I think in the hands of a skilled writer Star Trek could be anything - but Kurtzman is not a skilled writer and so you have a show that runs counter to how Mike fundamentally thinks Star Trek should be, and also does it terribly. The bit about optimism makes me wonder what Mike thinks of DS9 which decidedly wasn't after a while. And that's ignoring the Section 31 stuff which was too far in the other direction and kinda dumb.
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Nuns with Guns posted:He does have the best theme Apologies, but I have to mention that this video is apparently blocked in my country on copyright grounds by ITV. I live in England, where ITV and this show originates.
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Spark That Bled posted:Apologies, but I have to mention that this video is apparently blocked in my country on copyright grounds by ITV. Well, it's not actually ITV's youtube channel, so...that makes sense?
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The RDJ Sherlock movies are the best Sherlock media, because they’re the only ones outside of Doyle’s original stories that actually realize that Sherlock Holmes is goofy pulp trash more interested in entertaining an audience with ridiculous mondo nonsense, instead of some faux-intellectual tripe for people too insecure to read Agatha Christie. I blame basil rathbone for this, personally.
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Dawgstar posted:The bit about optimism makes me wonder what Mike thinks of DS9 which decidedly wasn't after a while. And that's ignoring the Section 31 stuff which was too far in the other direction and kinda dumb. Deep space nine is highly optimistic. One of the main focuses during the Dominion War arc is how you need to hold onto optimism because despair will bring ruin. Episodes where Sisko compromises on Starfleet morality show how damaged he becomes for betraying his ideals.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Deep space nine is highly optimistic. One of the main focuses during the Dominion War arc is how you need to hold onto optimism because despair will bring ruin. Episodes where Sisko compromises on Starfleet morality show how damaged he becomes for betraying his ideals. Everyone brings up the episode where Sisko lets Garak get away with killing a romulan official because it helps get them into the war against the dominion, but they always miss that the subtext is Sisko compromising his ideals makes him more like Garak, a completely broken, psychotic former spy almost incapable of connecting with people who still engages in apologetics for the fascist government he served because he can’t deal with his actions otherwise.
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Pants Donkey posted:I vaguely recall the BSG prequel series and it was...something. Didn’t it die after one season? Caprica owned bones. It was a sci-fi/conspiracy/soap opera and reveled in it. I wish it had a few more seasons instead of two (well, "one and a half").
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Caprica owned bones. It was a sci-fi/conspiracy/soap opera and reveled in it. I wish it had a few more seasons instead of two (well, "one and a half"). Caprica would have been great as an 8-episode miniseries, but it was just way too long. It was great to see some actual speculative science fiction on tv, though.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:The RDJ Sherlock movies are the best Sherlock media, because they’re the only ones outside of Doyle’s original stories that actually realize that Sherlock Holmes is goofy pulp trash more interested in entertaining an audience with ridiculous mondo nonsense, instead of some faux-intellectual tripe for people too insecure to read Agatha Christie. I blame basil rathbone for this, personally. amen to this. Doctor Spaceman posted:The second Guy Ritchie film also has a lot of fun playing around with the mind vision scanning stuff. The first time in a fight it gets used normally, the second time something unexpected happens and it invalidates a lot of stuff, and in the third bit Moriarty butts in and the whole fight takes place as a hypothetical between the two. yeah. i love that scene. those movies are underrated as gently caress.
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They have great soundtracks!
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