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I don’t think Rick and Morty is meant to be a character study. In general, I think it’s been at its weakest when it tries to be one. I’ve been enjoying that this season has moved away from the formula of ‘Rick and (mostly Morty) have an adventure and (some other part of the family) has a B plot. I don’t think we need a pile of Looney Tunes that explores the dark consequences of Wile E Coyote‘s murderous traps or Bugs Bunny’s trail of destruction. I don’t need Rick and Morty to have stakes or continuity. We’re a wandering gaze in a multiverse where everything can and has happened. I think the show is at its strongest when it is a festival of ideas and jokes.
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May 20, 2020 01:18
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Bust Rodd posted:Also I dunno if you two are both on Solar Opposites but that show looks really cool too! where is the thread for me to poo poo on this? funny, sure character development, lacking to none
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May 20, 2020 01:44
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I think trying to analyze this show on a deeper level is stupid and runs counter to the messaging it presents on a near-weekly basis. Like yeah, authorial intent doesn't matter, but the show regularly antagonizes the wannabe AV Club writers who do so.
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Eiba posted:The issue isn't that Rick is mean or the show is dark. Obviously Rick is an rear end in a top hat- that's the premise. He's pretty horrible, and has been from the start. grate deceiver posted:drat dude, I think you've cracked the code
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Sure that's not how fiction works, so it's funny when it happens in a cartoony fictional world. For a while. But when it sinks in and is no longer startling, there's plenty of precedent for it in the real world, and it's just kind of grim.
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No Luck Needed posted:where is the thread for me to poo poo on this? I've found a lot of people I've talked to who don't like what Rick and Morty has been being end up loving Solar Opposites, myself included. In my case, it's because at no point has Solar Opposites ever asked or expected us to empathize with any of the main cast, instead it treats them as vehicles for gags and wacky situations. Rick and Morty does both inconsistently, and trying to reconcile them together understandably leaves a bad taste in some people's mouths even if they're capable of appreciating these individual episodes in a vacuum. Season 1 of Rick and Morty unexpectedly brought in significant continuity to make a point about life and happiness (in Interdimensional Cable) and further emphasized this in the finale when Morty had the option to be free of Rick but chose to stick with him out of both pity and love, and which was reciprocated and then reinforced in the first episode of season 2. I cannot imagine episodes like that being made in season 4, and if they were they'd feel incredibly insincere by this point.
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May 20, 2020 01:59
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a new study bible! posted:I think trying to analyze this show on a deeper level is stupid and runs counter to the messaging it presents on a near-weekly basis. Like yeah, authorial intent doesn't matter, but the show regularly antagonizes the wannabe AV Club writers who do so. Please dont engage with mentally ill people who are so emotionally affected by the burping space grandpa scifi reference show that they write page long screeds about it (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 20, 2020 02:00
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I will try, but I too am mentally ill.
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Wubba lubba dub dub!
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The YouTube algorithm decided this was the right moment to show me this discussion playing out among the creators 2 years ago. https://youtu.be/RecdrgB-Odc
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May 20, 2020 02:43
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I'm personally a fan of Rick simultaneously saying things like "Futurama already did this, I don't copy ideas because I'm not a hack" and "that's right, Morty I loving Prestiged you." I hope it never gets addressed.
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May 20, 2020 03:00
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'm personally a fan of Rick simultaneously saying things like "Futurama already did this, I don't copy ideas because I'm not a hack" and "that's right, Morty I loving Prestiged you." I hope it never gets addressed. Morty: Rick, is-is this a "Saw" thing? Are you seriously "Saw"-ing the Vindicators? Rick: Morty I'm a drunk, not a hack. Drunk Rick: If you break the rules, lose the game or try to leave, you will die. Like in [burp] "Sawwww".
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May 20, 2020 03:10
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'm personally a fan of Rick simultaneously saying things like "Futurama already did this, I don't copy ideas because I'm not a hack" and "that's right, Morty I loving Prestiged you." I hope it never gets addressed. this same gag is the best part of the vindicators. Rick is a hack when he is drunk, but is also fortunately not afraid to stick up for the Palestinian refugees! its how you know hes a good person
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May 20, 2020 03:20
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sticklefifer posted:Something hit me about the actual design of the controller, and how it really highlights a major character trait of both Rick and Morty in this episode: How careless Rick is as an inventor, and how careless Morty is when he's allowed to get what he wants. Do modern games let you quick save after you die? I definitely managed to do that once with Half-Life back in the day. Fortunately the game kept your last two quick save. Then there's the friend who, after a spectacular fuckup in GTA IV, went back to the menu in a rage and accidentally deleted his save instead of loading it.
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Ironslave posted:I've found a lot of people I've talked to who don't like what Rick and Morty has been being end up loving Solar Opposites, myself included. In my case, it's because at no point has Solar Opposites ever asked or expected us to empathize with any of the main cast, instead it treats them as vehicles for gags and wacky situations. Rick and Morty does both inconsistently, and trying to reconcile them together understandably leaves a bad taste in some people's mouths even if they're capable of appreciating these individual episodes in a vacuum. good point, i guess i did forget to mention my favorite part was the "people in the wall" but if the aliens are just vehicles for gags then I already got that with Roger the Alien all the Dadders are holding out for a Klaus spin off
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No Luck Needed posted:all the Dadders are holding out for a Klaus spin off What? No way! If Klaus gets a spin off they're going to have to replace him, and I'm sorry but Spunky Rooster and John Michael Heaton are no Klaus 
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May 20, 2020 05:04
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Mantis42 posted:Actually it's good when Rick gets what he wants. Everytime a new episode airs I put on my pickle Rick shirt and cheer on Rick when he succeeds. Also, when Morty complains or Summer is on screen I boo until we're back to Rick time. What are your opinions on skylar white
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Milo and POTUS posted:What are your opinions on skylar white MEAN WOMAN BAD MAKES FUN STOP
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Milo and POTUS posted:What are your opinions on skylar white It was epic when she hosed Ted.
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May 20, 2020 05:49
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Arven posted:My wife just pointed out that the "real" Rick (and any body he is inhabiting) is the only one that drools. I love the attention to detail in this show. Wait. Hasn't Rick quit drooling?
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May 20, 2020 05:52
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I just checked and both the Rick who explains the Prestige-ing and the Rick after that are drooling a lot, so I don't think that tracks.
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May 20, 2020 06:48
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Isn't that the same Rick? He goes through the portal with Morty doesn't he?
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May 20, 2020 06:51
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There are probably close enough Ricks that could count as the Rick we know. Much the same way that it didn't really matter which Jerry you got from the Jerry day care. The further you get in the multiverse, the more different the Ricks get.
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May 20, 2020 06:52
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Possibly it was a fake Rick who knew to drool in order to fool Real Morty.
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Don't think so, they make a point of both the Ricks finishing their Capri Sun and throwing it away.
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The conceit of the parallel universes in the show is "the writers do whatever the gently caress they want as long as the it works for the episode", the whole mythology of evil morty and the citadel and that crap doesn't really work with the way the universe is structured in episodes such as this one as the cronenberg one, if there is always a universe so similar that it contains a rick who is exactly the same only he went zig instead of zag in his last decision then there isn't just one rick c-137 there are countless trillions of them and our Rick can't possibly be unique, this is part of why we get the 'we only get to do this once or twice' joke in the cronenberg episode, it's not that you can't say "these are my in-universe rules", it's just that it's very gimmicky and strips narratives from consequence if you do it too much, from a sci-fi cannonical perspective who gives a poo poo, but pulling from the whole 'oh look we just have another morty who didn't do the stupid thing you saw him doing in the last scene, cause multiverse' will only work well.. a few dozen times.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:the whole mythology of evil morty and the citadel and that crap doesn't really work with the way the universe is structured in episodes such as this one as the cronenberg one, if there is always a universe so similar that it contains a rick who is exactly the same only he went zig instead of zag in his last decision then there isn't just one rick c-137 there are countless trillions of them and our Rick can't possibly be unique, this is part of why we get the 'we only get to do this once or twice' joke in the cronenberg episode This is also why Rick's able to "merge" the timelines, which doesn't seem to be a concept that applies to the differing dimensions which, as you say, are presented as much more discrete than continuous many-world quantum forking. Daikloktos fucked around with this message at 08:30 on May 20, 2020 |
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vseslav.botkin posted:I just checked and both the Rick who explains the Prestige-ing and the Rick after that are drooling a lot, so I don't think that tracks. So the real Rick and Beth have finally gotten back from their space adventures? No wonder he made the lame vat of acid at the start of the episode, he was out of practice doing a Morty adventure.
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Bust Rodd posted:
those were a character design. so the character designers took care of coming up with the little creatures and then sticking them to every ones face. I did the guns and gadgets that the aliens hold. and Mutata and I collaborated on the spaceships. I did also end up working on solar opposites. but I only made a few 3d models. Here are a few things from Glorzo that I drew'  Guns for the glorzo gaurd  2d versions of the missile, which mutata then madea 3d model of  2d versions of the one of the glorzo spaceship  close up of ricks ufo towing the missle.  stages of the giant lazer cannon opening from ricks ship. I have to add this next line as per adult swims request Property of Adult Swim. Any press or reposting requests must be directed to Adult Swim for approval Typical fucked around with this message at 09:48 on May 20, 2020 |
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Typical posted:those were a character design. so the character designers took care of coming up with the little creatures and then sticking them to every ones face. I did the guns and gadgets that the aliens hold. and Mutata and I collaborated on the spaceships. I did also end up working on solar opposites. but I only made a few 3d models. Those are awesome, I really like how all the tech echoes the facehugger theme, mechanical structures with organic bits wrapped around them like parasites.
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That's just a dick. You made a dick-missile.
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Well, yes, it's a facehugger missile.
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Skippy McPants posted:That's just a dick. You made a dick-missile. They specifically said it was a dick missile last week.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The conceit of the parallel universes in the show is "the writers do whatever the gently caress they want as long as the it works for the episode", the whole mythology of evil morty and the citadel and that crap doesn't really work with the way the universe is structured in episodes such as this one as the cronenberg one, if there is always a universe so similar that it contains a rick who is exactly the same only he went zig instead of zag in his last decision then there isn't just one rick c-137 there are countless trillions of them and our Rick can't possibly be unique, this is part of why we get the 'we only get to do this once or twice' joke in the cronenberg episode, it's not that you can't say "these are my in-universe rules", it's just that it's very gimmicky and strips narratives from consequence if you do it too much, from a sci-fi cannonical perspective who gives a poo poo, but pulling from the whole 'oh look we just have another morty who didn't do the stupid thing you saw him doing in the last scene, cause multiverse' will only work well.. a few dozen times. I dunno it keeps working for me maybe because I realize this is a childrens cartoon show
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The conceit of the parallel universes in the show is "the writers do whatever the gently caress they want as long as the it works for the episode", the whole mythology of evil morty and the citadel and that crap doesn't really work with the way the universe is structured in episodes such as this one as the cronenberg one, if there is always a universe so similar that it contains a rick who is exactly the same only he went zig instead of zag in his last decision then there isn't just one rick c-137 there are countless trillions of them and our Rick can't possibly be unique, this is part of why we get the 'we only get to do this once or twice' joke in the cronenberg episode, it's not that you can't say "these are my in-universe rules", it's just that it's very gimmicky and strips narratives from consequence if you do it too much, from a sci-fi cannonical perspective who gives a poo poo, but pulling from the whole 'oh look we just have another morty who didn't do the stupid thing you saw him doing in the last scene, cause multiverse' will only work well.. a few dozen times. You really just need to accept that the writers don't care as much about consistency and world building as some fans do.
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Typical posted:Property of Adult Swim. Any press or reposting requests must be directed to Adult Swim for approval drat dude that’s really neat, thanks for sharing! You guys must’ve been drawing your asses off this season every episode just seems filled to bursting with characters and gadgets. It must be a relief to see the script and crank out a simpler design like Morty’s rewinder remote in like 20 minutes. Gravitas Shortfall posted:Those are awesome, I really like how all the tech echoes the facehugger theme, mechanical structures with organic bits wrapped around them like parasites. Yeah it’s really crazy that for every alien race you have to try and find ways to reflect their society or culture through their guns and armor and even the way their cities look. It’s like you guys have to design and populate an entire dungeons and dragons campaign every episode that’s loving nuts!
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'm personally a fan of Rick simultaneously saying things like "Futurama already did this, I don't copy ideas because I'm not a hack" and "that's right, Morty I loving Prestiged you." I hope it never gets addressed. I mean, he also has a box literally labeled "TIME TRAVEL STUFF" in the garage while constantly bashing time travel as a plot device. Episodes like this kind of make me see where Evil Morty could come from, and why he was never really on our Rick's radar. Disenfranchised current Morty + time travel stuff + knowledge of the Citadel + increasingly nihilistic view of all other Ricks and Mortys. Obviously the Story Train episode is a signpost of "we'll only get to this stuff if we feel like it someday" but that doesn't mean there isn't plenty to draw from if they decide to. Side note: Anyone else notice that the plane crash victims were dressed like the main South Park cast?
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doingitwrong posted:I don’t think Rick and Morty is meant to be a character study. In general, I think it’s been at its weakest when it tries to be one. this is mostly just me spewing incidental trivia but bugs bunny's character was actually the impetus for a lot of new character introductions see, bugs bunny clowning on a hunter was funny at first, but after X number of cartoons it was feared the audience might start sympathizing with an increasingly oblivious Elmer Fudd, and start to dislike Bugs (who won every time, natch) so a more dangerous and more antagonistic foe was introduced in Yosemite Sam; rinse and repeat (with a few crossovers where Daffy Duck helps prop Bugs up as the lesser of two comedic evils) and as Yosemite started to lose his bite, they began rolling out even higher stakes and less rational opponents for Bugs to bounce off, like the Tazmanian Devil, Marvin the Martian, Witch Hazel, etc Bugs Bunny looking like too much of an rear end in a top hat was absolutely an issue that had to be worked with and written around
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Lunatic Sledge posted:this is mostly just me spewing incidental trivia but bugs bunny's character was actually the impetus for a lot of new character introductions drat this is hella interesting. We watched Space Jam over the weekend I was talking about how I always preferred Daffy because he was more manic and also got his comeuppance a lot more regularly, whereas Bugs was always super obnoxious but seemed to easily waltz over everyone
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Doltos posted:I dunno it keeps working for me maybe because I realize this is a childrens cartoon show What childrens show are you talking about? This is the thread for the adult content cartoon show Rick and Morty.
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