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darnon posted:Typically there's a gas generator system that pressurizes and hucks the missile out of the launch tube into the air before the primary motor ignites. So it's already a good few stories above the trailer and then it's boogieing out of there pretty quick. Is this video in real-time at the start? Looking at the cap falling off, it doesn't look like it's been sped up, but if that's the case, the launch tube gets up there fast.
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Proper Kerni ng posted:If you used Sprint x 17 for surface-to-surface it would go from Mar-a-Lago to Mare Marginis in about an hour and 45 minutes. Not quite Futurama Speed, but still a bit much for most non-apocalypse applications. One of my great grandmothers survived the 1917 Halifax Explosion and was temporarily blinded when, like a fuckload of other Haligonians, she looked out the window to take a look at the ship burning in the harbour. She said later on that she'd have rather hid in the basement.
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Fearless posted:One of my great grandmothers survived the 1917 Halifax Explosion and was temporarily blinded when, like a fuckload of other Haligonians, she looked out the window to take a look at the ship burning in the harbour. She said later on that she'd have rather hid in the basement. gently caress she was lucky to survive, weren't a lot of the casualties from that due to flying glass?
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darnon posted:And sometimes you get the fun scenario of the missile popping out of the launch tube and just flopping over when it fails to ignite. Like so: Many of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjH8Em5Kv18
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PeterCat posted:Many of these. What happens when this happens on a VLS on a ship?
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That happens. And then it also happened to the Germans three years later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8TaIP-TgRw
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Memento posted:Is this video in real-time at the start? Looking at the cap falling off, it doesn't look like it's been sped up, but if that's the case, the launch tube gets up there fast. There's a very noticeable jump in the video, visible in all the shots, when the tube is almost vertical, then to fully vertical. I'd imagine that it takes significantly longer than they want you to know about to get that last little bit.
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Judging by the clouds there's only a few seconds skip in both shots. It's also fairly quick in this night launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvA9GAufqlI darnon fucked around with this message at 06:31 on May 19, 2020 |
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darnon posted:Judging by the clouds there's only a few seconds skip in both shots. You seem to be correct on this. Thanks for sharing that.
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Anyone have any links handy about training events where nuke silo commanders refused to launch and were sacked, or other similar refusals of absolute orders? I’m making a small group study about it in the Army. Not just American, but british, too. I remember reading about British politician Denis Healey, but he isn’t under absolute orders such as a uniformed officer would be. Major Harold Hering of the US Air Force was fired for the hypothetical question of ”how do I know the president is sane?”, speaking of Nixon. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 07:38 on May 19, 2020 |
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Harold Haring, Stanislav Petrov, and Vasili Arkhipov E: Sgt. Jeff Kennedy recieved a Letter of Reprimand for violating the two-man rule and entering the launch control center alone to read critical pressure gagues during the Little Rock Titan Silo fire before being med-boarded out of the AF due to injuries recieved during that incident shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 07:58 on May 19, 2020 |
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large hands posted:gently caress she was lucky to survive, weren't a lot of the casualties from that due to flying glass? There were about 800 or so people rendered permanently blind from the blast-- the Canadian National Institute for the Blind was created in 1918 in large part to help the who lost their eyesight afterwards (and from the Great War as well). Boston in particular, but Massachusetts as a whole moved mountains to help afterwards. Nova Scotia was very nearly the 14th colony to join the Revolution and there are extensive ties between NS and New England that go back centuries. A lot of people in that area have kin across the border (in either direction). My own family settled near Boston on arrival in the new world, but was subsequently a part of a migration of British settlers from the American colonies into lands now vacated by expulsion of the Acadians. Anyways, what happened in Halifax was extensively documented and studied by the people working in the Manhattan Project so as to get a sense of just what could happen when a singular, massive explosion took place in a built up area (estimates put the force of the explosion to be equivalent to nearly 3 kilotons of TNT). The devastation that this sort of event causes is very difficult for most of us to fully comprehend; whatever emergency responses that aren't disabled by such an event find their ability to respond effectively severely degraded and this doesn't really go away. Halifax was damned lucky to have the support of the rest of Canada, big chunks of the northeastern US and the British Empire-- I shudder to think what would have happened had the rail lines been fully severed.
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Vahakyla posted:Anyone have any links handy about training events where nuke silo commanders refused to launch and were sacked, or other similar refusals of absolute orders? I’m making a small group study about it in the Army. Not just American, but british, too. The good news is that the USAF has since been packed with death cultists, so they will never again fail to bring about nuclear armageddon.
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Platystemon posted:The good news is that the USAF has since been packed with death cultists, so they will never again fail to bring about nuclear armageddon. It's good that we've found something for the death cultists to do. I'm always glad when people with challenges find something they excel at.
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shame on an IGA posted:Harold Haring, Stanislav Petrov, and Vasili Arkhipov I don't know Haring, but neither Petrov nor Arkhipov violated direct orders from a superior officer. Petrov made a legitimate judgment call, and Arkhipov was the superior officer. Both great men to be sure, but not the movie scenario of refusing to turn the key despite the deranged general shouting orders.
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Scratch Monkey posted:
(The superior officer he's threatening is a young John Spencer)
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FMguru posted:Hey look, it's a very young Michael Madsen. A superior officer who was just telling him where to score the best weed prior to the "end the world" transmission.
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Platystemon posted:The good news is that the USAF has since been packed with death cultists, so they will never again fail to bring about nuclear armageddon. Is it really Armageddon if you're blown into the loving embrace of Christ? 9/10 AF generals say no!
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Murgos posted:Fun fact #2 trident missiles have a physical safety in the form of a firing pin attached to a lanyard. Once the missile is far enough away the lanyard yanks out the firing pin which starts the rocket motor (I assume with concurrence from guidance). I'm picturing one of those brightly colored braided lanyards my kids made in 1st grade art class.
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Fearless posted:There were about 800 or so people rendered permanently blind from the blast-- the Canadian National Institute for the Blind was created in 1918 in large part to help the who lost their eyesight afterwards (and from the Great War as well). Huh, I thought retina-searing flashes were a unique feature of nuclear detonations, is there a threshold on conventional explosives for this or was it a specific type of ordinance? Were there flash burns as well?
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zoux posted:Huh, I thought retina-searing flashes were a unique feature of nuclear detonations, is there a threshold on conventional explosives for this or was it a specific type of ordinance? Were there flash burns as well? It's not retina damage, it's a face full of glass shards when the shock wave gets to the window you're looking through.
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Yeah, a lot of the city's population ran to their windows or down to the harbour to watch the burning ship, without knowing its cargo.
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The explosion itself dished out the part of the harbour where it occurred-- more than a century later, the ocean bed remains blasted flat (aside from discarded shopping carts and car parts).
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Wow I assumed it was the same thing as say Hiroshima because that is an insane number of people to be specifically blinded by glass. How long did the ship burn before it went up
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Wikipedia posted:. On the Mont-Blanc, the impact damaged benzol barrels stored on deck, leaking vapors which were ignited by sparks from the collision, setting off a fire on board that quickly grew out of control. Approximately 20 minutes later at 9:04:35 am, the Mont-Blanc exploded. 
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Fearless posted:The explosion itself dished out the part of the harbour where it occurred-- more than a century later, the ocean bed remains blasted flat (aside from discarded shopping carts and car parts).  It's a fuckin gold mine, Julian!
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Captain von Trapp posted:It's not retina damage, it's a face full of glass shards when the shock wave gets to the window you're looking through. Even in Hiroshima, many of the people who were permanently blinded had it happen from flying glass. Many people, especially children, were trying to see what was happening, and a blast can shatter windows at much greater distances than it can destroy buildings. As a result, Hiroshima now has one of the best schools for the blind in the world. As it happens, this is the reasoning behind Duck and Cover. It won't save children in the fireball zone, but there's a much larger number of schools where hiding under desks would protect the students from flying shards of glass.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Oriana0214/status/1262961152763604992 Didn’t a Raptor crash last week too
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priznat posted:Does coronavirus affect the planes themselves Better feed the engines lucky coins for protection.
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zoux posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Oriana0214/status/1262961152763604992 33rd FW PAO posted:-- NEWS RELEASE --
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I didn't believe it either but an almost identical message is on their website. https://www.33fw.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2192246/33rd-fighter-wing-f-35a-crash-at-eglin/ quote:EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. --
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darnon posted:Typically there's a gas generator system that pressurizes and hucks the missile out of the launch tube into the air before the primary motor ignites. So it's already a good few stories above the trailer and then it's boogieing out of there pretty quick. Where are the crew when this is happening? Have they beat feat half a mile, or are they cowering in the (hopefully) safety of the cabin. I'm assuming that exhaust cloud is super-toxic.
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