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BrianWilly posted:Have there been other shows where they've replaced the actual lead headlining main character like this? I can only remember Spartacus, which was an understandable situation. Post Crisis, the Kane family is Time Lords.
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BrianWilly posted:Have there been other shows where they've replaced the actual lead headlining main character like this? I can only remember Spartacus, which was an understandable situation. Depends on how you mean "headlining" but there was the whole Dick Sargent/Dick York thing from Bewitched.
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May 20, 2020 03:12
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muscles like this! posted:Depends on how you mean "headlining" but there was the whole Dick Sargent/Dick York thing from Bewitched. There is literally a TV Tropes page named after it: The Other Darrin.
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May 20, 2020 03:24
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BrianWilly posted:Have there been other shows where they've replaced the actual lead headlining main character like this? I can only remember Spartacus, which was an understandable situation. Very appropriately for a comic book thread, Superboy
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May 20, 2020 03:37
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The Lord Bude posted:Arrowverse is the perfect setting to recast someone. They could even have the time idiots gently caress something up and cause it if they want to address it in setting. The time idiots' changes to history have always been contained to their show. Now, Barry Allen the time criminal, on the other hand--there's a fucker whose time travel actually butterfly effects onto other shows.
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Argue posted:The time idiots' changes to history have always been contained to their show. Now, Barry Allen the time criminal, on the other hand--there's a fucker whose time travel actually butterfly effects onto other shows. That works for me too. Opening episode of Season 1. We have a first person camera from Kate's perspective. She goes to look in the mirror; yells out "drat it Barry what did you do!" then the Camera pans and we see the new actor.
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May 20, 2020 04:46
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Yeah just make McNamara the new Batwoman and just be all "oh I guess Oliver did this when he remade the universe it just took a few moments to take effect oh hey look here is a real legit Batman bad guy now, enjoy"
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May 20, 2020 05:20
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There is one thing about the replacement I'm sure of. The actor will not be straight. I'm also fairly confident the show will not make a big deal of the change, beyond maybe Luke or Mary asking about a new haircut.
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May 20, 2020 05:29
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Couldn't they just turn Alice good and have her make her a mask out of the face of someone from Riverdale?
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howe_sam posted:There is one thing about the replacement I'm sure of. The actor will not be straight. I'm also fairly confident the show will not make a big deal of the change, beyond maybe Luke or Mary asking about a new haircut. I want to express my pre-emptive sympathies to whomever is ultimately cast as the new Kate, because Awful Internet Men are going to ham on her just as hard as they did on Ruby Rose 
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nine-gear crow posted:I want to express my pre-emptive sympathies to whomever is ultimately cast as the new Kate, because Awful Internet Men are going to ham on her just as hard as they did on Ruby Rose It's really disappointing because Rose was basically custom made for this role but it's killing her faster than it did Amell.
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howe_sam posted:There is one thing about the replacement I'm sure of. The actor will not be straight. I'm also fairly confident the show will not make a big deal of the change, beyond maybe Luke or Mary asking about a new haircut. This is exactly it. Being gay as hell is part of being Batwoman, and you need the actor to be that too.
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May 20, 2020 06:32
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Phylodox posted:Babylon 5. I don't recall them doing an actor swap on the same character, who we talking about? Or do you just mean the replacement of the commander of the station?
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May 20, 2020 06:53
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How's this show compare to the other dctv shows? I love Batwoman but just felt uncomfortable watching a show starring Ruby Rose so I've barely seen any of it.
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Seeing a lot of hopeful buzz around Stephanie Beatriz taking over the cowl and my god have I never been happier to see a major role recast if that option is on the table.Stanfield posted:How's this show compare to the other dctv shows? I love Batwoman but just felt uncomfortable watching a show starring Ruby Rose so I've barely seen any of it. It's closest in tone to mid-series Arrow. (Or a much lower-budget Swamp Thing, come to think of it.) It's quite 'dry'. There's very little of the humour or heart that Legends or Supergirl have. So if you want the brooding, go for it, but if you prefer the camp or want something light then you'd probably be best off skipping it. Compared to comic book Batwoman, if that's what you like, Alice is a near-perfect recreation of her comic counterpart and 'Batwoman' is more true to the comic version than most CW heroes are, but Kate Kane is almost entirely different beyond the most basic bulletpoints; she's still ex-military, gay and rich, but otherwise a very different person. She's very much just Ruby Rose being Ruby Rose, far trendier and self-assured than comic Kate is. So if what you like about Batwoman is the cowl and cape half, you might well like it a lot, but if you're more a fan of Kate Kane—and particularly if you don't like Ruby Rose—then it might be quite painful viewing for you. I still wouldn't say I like Ruby myself, either (though I do thank her for enabling the Veronicas to write a helluva diss track), but if you've enjoyed the other shows, especially Arrow, then I'd say stick with this. It improves faster than the others did and with Ruby going now anyway, you can relax knowing you're just picking up the backstory before season 2 without her, which I have to imagine will be better as all CW second seasons have been. pressedbunny fucked around with this message at 11:47 on May 20, 2020 |
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May 20, 2020 11:45
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Alright I'll probably check it out, thanks. Is there a point where if I don't like it by then I'm probably not gonna like it?
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May 20, 2020 11:53
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Stanfield posted:I love Batwoman but just felt uncomfortable watching a show starring Ruby Rose so I've barely seen any of it. As someone who had never heard of Ruby Rose before this show; is there some thing that happened that made people hate her?
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May 20, 2020 12:18
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She was emotionally abusive to Jess Origliasso from The Veronicas while they were dating: https://celebrity.nine.com.au/tv/the-veronicas-jess-origliasso-ruby-rose-drama-lisa/eb06edb4-44cc-48d7-b562-3976eb0eb23e or watch the first 10-ish minutes of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Z4zpH_uN8 They wrote a song about it which is not subtle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyld-i7OZ9Q
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May 20, 2020 12:26
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Maybe they'll cast Zoie Palmer? I can but hope. Lesbian, worked with Rachel before, decently good actress, looks younger but can bring a bit of gravitas, solid sci-fi/fantasy genre lady.
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For what it's worth they've said they're committed to getting another LGBTQ actress. The popular opinion seems to be she just didn't like the TV grind.
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Sloth Life posted:Maybe they'll cast Zoie Palmer? I can but hope. Lesbian, worked with Rachel before, decently good actress, looks younger but can bring a bit of gravitas, solid sci-fi/fantasy genre lady.
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Tiggum posted:Is she? I've only seen her in Lost Girl and Dark Matter and I thought she was an excellent choice to play a robot in Dark Matter because she was extremely robotic in Lost Girl (in which she was not a robot). Well, she is a genre actress, there are levels. I didn't find her robotic at all in Lost Girl. Straight laced, prim, detached, even aloof, yes. It worked for me especially contrasted with the basically cartoonish Bo and Kenzi. She was the 2nd best thing in Dark Matter (Lemke was #1) but Dark Matter was shockingly bad. YM clearly V but hey.
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Sloth Life posted:She was the 2nd best thing in Dark Matter (Lemke was #1) but Dark Matter was shockingly bad. 
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Zone Palmer would be aces.
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pressedbunny posted:Seeing a lot of hopeful buzz around Stephanie Beatriz taking over the cowl and my god have I never been happier to see a major role recast if that option is on the table. It'd be perfect, she can just use the Diaz voice when she's in the suit and use her regular voice as Kate.
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I’d seen Ruby Rose in Orange is the new black and one of the resident evil movies before this, I wasn’t impressed and aside from her chemistry with Benoist, I was ready to give up this show primarily to how bland she was. Once alt universe Alice showed up, that changed and the show got better. Honestly, they should just turn Alice into Batdexter.
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I really wouldn't mind if Alice had/does become the main character. She really has been the stand-out for the entire season. You can't really redeem her as a true hero of course, but Dexter? She could absolutely be that.Stanfield posted:Alright I'll probably check it out, thanks. Is there a point where if I don't like it by then I'm probably not gonna like it? The Lord Bude posted:As someone who had never heard of Ruby Rose before this show; is there some thing that happened that made people hate her?
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pressedbunny posted:I really wouldn't mind if Alice had/does become the main character. She really has been the stand-out for the entire season. You can't really redeem her as a true hero of course, but Dexter? She could absolutely be that. Also, not a good actress.
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But consider https://twitter.com/iamstephbeatz/status/1262925020281667584
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Pillowpants posted:I’d seen Ruby Rose in Orange is the new black and one of the resident evil movies before this, I wasn’t impressed and aside from her chemistry with Benoist, I was ready to give up this show primarily to how bland she was. I thought she did a great job in John Wick 2 playing a mute assassin. That's not a back-handed compliment; she's got a good physicality and she can be very emotive, it's just that her dialogue delivery is inconsistent at best, and her voice over work is loving atrocious.
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She should show up to the offices in character as Rosa and just stab people until she gets the role.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I thought she did a great job in John Wick 2 playing a mute assassin. Maybe she struggles with the American accent?
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lol, I had no idea she wasn't American I had never heard of her before John Wick 2 and her acting was convincing enough to me that I assumed she actually was deaf, I kinda don't get the complaints about her acting abilities at all. Maybe I suck at judging these things but I'll be sad to see her go from this show.
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I mean, I love Stephanie Beatriz but she already has a full-time TV gig, and it would be kind of strange to have the character be Latina when her father, cousin, and twin sister are all already on the show and all very white.
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ShakeZula posted:I mean, I love Stephanie Beatriz but she already has a full-time TV gig, and it would be kind of strange to have the character be Latina when her father, cousin, and twin sister are all already on the show and all very white. So you're saying they should recast everyone? Edit: With the cast of B99. Edit 2: Except Mary. Edit 3: Terry Crews plays Alice.
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Rhyno posted:So you're saying they should recast everyone? I'm not saying no
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Rhyno posted:So you're saying they should recast everyone? All three played by Stephanie
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ShakeZula posted:I mean, I love Stephanie Beatriz but she already has a full-time TV gig, and it would be kind of strange to have the character be Latina when her father, cousin, and twin sister are all already on the show and all very white. MODS.
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Sirotan posted:lol, I had no idea she wasn't American She's Australian.
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