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Weedle posted:i figured that pretty much all games look and play identically on both consoles at this point. kind of seemed that way last gen too if youre on base consoles the ps4 still has the edge usually either in a locked 1080p rather than a dynamic res on xbone or a more stable frame rate. ps4 exclusives generally look nicer than stuff on the base xbone will because of the extra stuff in there for first party devs to make use of. if youre on ps4 pro and xbonx then the xbonx is more powerful so often runs at a higher res or frame rate. its a bit different this time because the main issue last gen was the ps3 was created by "ricky" the mad scientist from "Rick and morky" and was impossible to use so early multiplats were awful, but outside of some stand outs later things were mostly even. this gen both the base and the pro models still have real power differences and are very similar so the more powerful one will always have an advantage.
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Polo-Rican posted:So to continue this from earlier... I found out that with a Pro account, there are a handful of games that you can play for free. And I also saw that you can get a 2 month free trial of a Pro account. I figured I'd sign up for Pro, see how well it works, and then probably cancel immediately. I think https://stadia.com/pro should get you to the trial. I had the same issue.
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Blotto_Otter posted:Is this the general belief within Google, or is this just H.A.'s opinion? How do you square that belief with the fact that this is a unique time where lapsed and casual gamers are more inclined to get back into gaming than ever, and yet none of them seem to be flocking to Stadia? If it's not the fault of the product, then what's the alternative explanation, that it's a failure of marketing? Am I replying to an actual effort post, or am I just taking the bait again? I wouldn't say none of them are flocking to Stadia - the usage and player base is WAY up. The player base is way more diversified than just Destiny 2. Awareness is still lacking in some regard, but improving. People are not sure what Stadia is or what it offers - it's a challenger product in a very entrenched market. The landing page for Stadia.com doesn't do a great job to explain what Stadia is for someone who is uninformed or understandably not willing to do all the research - they shouldn't have to and its a huge miss. Gating behind hardware purchase was another big limitation to early adoption, but the service is also in a much better place today than it was at launch. When users are signed up, onboarding experience can improved. As many in this thread have pointed out its confusing when you first start out - there's not a lot of hand holding or education, e.g. how do I get game? where /how can I play? None of the YouTube integrations are live yet, which is a huge lost opportunity for user acquisition and platform differentiation.
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hostile apostle posted:I wouldn't say none of them are flocking to Stadia - the usage and player base is WAY up. The player base is way more diversified than just Destiny 2.  The fact remains the stadia has a slower release cadence and smaller user base than some of the least successful game consoles in all history, and if your posts are any indication of how HQ is interpreting that you're DOOMed Eternally. To call this a tire fire would be unfair to tires because those last longer than the average Google product. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 21, 2020 |
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The Stadia: hostile apostle posted:People are not sure what Stadia is
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hostile apostle posted:no hardware needed hostile apostle posted:Gating behind hardware purchase was another big limitation to early adoption 
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hostile apostle posted:I wouldn't say none of them are flocking to Stadia - the usage and player base is WAY up. The player base is way more diversified than just Destiny 2. If Stadia has all these lost opportunities, how are they expecting to recover in a quarantine environment when people are heavily buying consoles to keep them sane?
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May 21, 2020 04:09
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hostile apostle posted:I wouldn't say none of them are flocking to Stadia - the usage and player base is WAY up. The player base is way more diversified than just Destiny 2. do you have any numbers you can share
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hostile apostle posted:I wouldn't say none of them are flocking to Stadia - the usage and player base is WAY up. The player base is way more diversified than just Destiny 2. Counting Destiny 2 players is an excellent metric since that's the big title that Google hypes as being free with Pro. Therefore nearly everyone who signs up will use D2 to check the service out.
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hostile apostle posted:I wouldn't say none of them are flocking to Stadia - the usage and player base is WAY up. The player base is way more diversified than just Destiny 2. awareness is improving now let me list a bunch of basic stuff that is somehow still not fixed 6 months later despite being by google who are both rich and deal constantly with ui and web design
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Stux posted:awareness is improving now let me list a bunch of basic stuff that is somehow still not fixed 6 months later despite being by google who are both rich and deal constantly with ui and web design it’s because no one at google gives a poo poo, hardly anyone is playing so why bother
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...! posted:Counting Destiny 2 players is an excellent metric since that's the big title that Google hypes as being free with Pro. Therefore nearly everyone who signs up will use D2 to check the service out. hostile apostle posted:People are not sure what Stadia is
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hostile apostle posted:None of the YouTube integrations are live yet, which is a huge lost opportunity for user acquisition and platform differentiation. Wait what? This blows my loving mind. Huge lost opportunity is a massive understatement We live in the day and age where streaming and influencers are far and away the #1 marketing tool in the gaming market to the point that traditional ads try and ape it with fake influencers acting like it's a recorded clip from a livestream, and Google couldn't get their Youtube department to work with their up and coming, game changing, Stadia department to make sure that integration was 100% done and rock solid before launch, and still isn't 6 months later? They also did this 5 years after Microsoft and Sony baked streaming poo poo into their new consoles at the operating system level, and Google figured it'd be OK to release Stadia without anything at all. Wow, just wow......
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Rudager posted:They also did this 5 years after Microsoft and Sony baked streaming poo poo into their new consoles at the operating system level, and Google figured it'd be OK to release Stadia without anything at all.
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njsykora posted:This is a damning indictment of the effectiveness of Google's ad tech, because I get constant pre-roll ads for Stadia watching Youtube videos on my phone. If that kind of blanket advertising on one of Google's own sites isn't telling people what Stadia is then either Youtube advertising doesn't work or whatever agency Google gets to do their advertising has produced a bunch of terrible, ineffective ads that aren't doing their job.
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have there been any feature/functionality updates at all, other than being supported on a few more android phones and using a stadia controller wirelessly on pc? i can’t think of any
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hostile apostle posted:Awareness is still lacking in some regard, but improving. People are not sure what Stadia is or what it offers For a company that runs not only the entire internet marketing industry but also most of the internet video industry this is ... a lol.
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Weedle posted:have there been any feature/functionality updates at all, other than being supported on a few more android phones and using a stadia controller wirelessly on pc? i can’t think of any Sign up on web, base tier launch, 4k on web, 1440 on web, captures on web, stream connect is live in a few titles like Div2 or Ghost Recon, achievements, various QoL improvements.
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It's a Challenger product in that it imploded spectacularly.
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hostile apostle posted:Sign up on web, base tier launch, 4k on web, 1440 on web, captures on web, stream connect is live in a few titles like Div2 or Ghost Recon, achievements, various QoL improvements. You should probably not reference achievements, given the constant posts about quite hilarious Stadia-wide (not game specific) achievement issues I see on r/stadia. And if you want to count QoL improvements, you need to list them. "Various" is too vague. It could mean literally anything.
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quote:Timed exclusives even for 30 days is what stadia needs to do. People will not want to wait and try it on stadia and see drat I noticed no lag and this was fast to load etc and that will turn people into stadia fans! 30 days or even two weeks if the cost is cheap enough would be the best thing stadia could do!
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quote:I would LOVE Star Citizen in the future quote:that game literally is like what you imagine a next gen early access to be. it's way ahead even in it's current state. I have an 325A and an M50 ship I know "Star Citizen on Stadia" is low hanging fruit but I'll be damned if I can't help but pick it every time I see it.
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hostile apostle posted:Sign up on web, base tier launch, 4k on web, 1440 on web, captures on web, stream connect is live in a few titles like Div2 or Ghost Recon, achievements, various QoL improvements. Where can I check out the stream connect feature? What streamers are using it?
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Where can I check out the stream connect feature? What streamers are using it? that's not like twitch streaming, that's the PiP stream where you can see what your bud is doing in a grindy shooter that requires very little real teamwork another potentially interesting feature if you have a good game that was built around it rather than being glued on to Ubisoft Open World Action Game 2019
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hostile apostle posted:You can use KBM on Stadia. No controller needed. Only on pc and still it depends on the type of game (good luck playing grid on Keyboard)
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Stux posted:"One of the most hotly anticipated benefits is the ability for a game to include far, far more concurrent users in the same environment or match. Today, Fortnite maxes at 100 concurrent players, with Call of Duty: Warzone peaking at 150. There are several constraints to expanding this gap (more on this later), but local processing is a key one. There’s simply a low limit to how many players (each of whom is constantly generating input and positional data) an at-home processor can track and render."
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Stux posted:the crowd interaction idea has existed as an option for devs on ps4 since launch and has been live in the wild. daylight came out in 2014 with it as a major feature.
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Stux posted:ha should have to unblock me to keep posting
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Stux posted:you can have 1000 players in a game running on a ps4 its not a real issue
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Stux posted:remember when the xbone was going to be more powerful than the ps4 because of cloud processing and crackdown was going to run full physics simulations in the cloud
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I wish HA would do something useful with his time like unionizing his coworkers instead of trying to convince a bunch of jaded nerds that Stadia is good.
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Rudager posted:Wait what? This blows my loving mind. Huge lost opportunity is a massive understatement When Apex legends came out they payed Ninja and Shroud to play it for a day and that was enough to catapult it to a nr2 spot in the BR world.
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...! posted:I know "Star Citizen on Stadia" is low hanging fruit but I'll be damned if I can't help but pick it every time I see it. Can somebody please post (presumably reddit ) link ? I want to upvote it, because I really,really want to see star citizen/SQ54 as stadia timed exclusive.
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Stadia trip report 2, Trying again from the free airport wifi because gently caress trying to blow through my cell data. Destiny 2 looks a lot better vs PUBG and I think that is because of the color pallet D2 uses. The game ran ok but there were lots of lag spikes which I'm sure is from the poo poo wifi. I am playing on my 2018 15" MBP and its nice that it stays nice and cool but when I tried to go into the data settings I need to use the mobile app to change it? I can't believe that is still a thing and it seems really stupid I need to download an app for my phone that I'll only use to change settings because I can't game with the app.  I'm going to try and download the app and lower the quality and see if that helps any. I think if I stream at 720p it might play ok.
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hostile apostle posted:Sign up on web You really should have a hard look at your product when you're listing "sign up on a website" as an added feature.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Get better, Tax Man. Hey, at least you you don't need to call from a Google Fi number only registered on the bay area
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