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zedprime posted:Multi body gravitational pull would like a word. You will never be rid of the leap second. Blow up the other planets, bing bong e: I mean if we're already talking about slowing down earth's rotation, what's a little planetary destruction in our quest for the most perfect calendar year?
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We've already got these space elevators that we're using to adjust Earth's rotational inertia in the first place; instead of inserting a leap second we'll just give the rotational speed the appropriate adjustment.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Blow up the other planets, bing bong You need to annihilate all matter in a ridiculous radius at which point what are you orbiting anway, but also the n body problem means we can't really come up with a radius we'd need to annihilate everything in order to guarantee there's be no interference. DontMockMySmock posted:We've already got these space elevators that we're using to adjust Earth's rotational inertia in the first place; instead of inserting a leap second we'll just give the rotational speed the appropriate adjustment. e. Time is subjective and imperfect. Dehumanize yourself and face to orienting data by decreasing magnitude instead of parametric time. zedprime has a new favorite as of 23:50 on May 21, 2020 |
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May 21, 2020 23:46
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zedprime posted:That's just a physical leap second, doesn't fix your clock being wrong for a period of time. The clock's not wrong, it's the EARTH that is wrong, and is being brought back into alignment with the clock. There is no leap second; the seconds never change. If you were measuring time by looking at the oscillations of cesium or whatever that atomic clocks use, it'd be correct, just not quite matching up with the Earth. The only reason we do leap seconds in real life is because we can't fix the Earth, so we're loving up our time to match the Earth's fuckery.
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Making the second the base unit of SI was a big mistake. Everyone gives Ben Franklin a hard time about establishing the convention of electric charge such that the charger carrier moves the wrong way, but that is comparatively harmless.
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May 21, 2020 23:53
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DontMockMySmock posted:We've already got these space elevators that we're using to adjust Earth's rotational inertia in the first place; instead of inserting a leap second we'll just give the rotational speed the appropriate adjustment.  NOW you're thinking like a Type II civilization!
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May 21, 2020 23:57
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DontMockMySmock posted:The clock's not wrong, it's the EARTH that is wrong, and is being brought back into alignment with the clock. There is no leap second; the seconds never change. If you were measuring time by looking at the oscillations of cesium or whatever that atomic clocks use, it'd be correct, just not quite matching up with the Earth. The only reason we do leap seconds in real life is because we can't fix the Earth, so we're loving up our time to match the Earth's fuckery.
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zedprime posted:If you don't care about accurately measuring the precession of the earth while time keeping (so your seasons and poo poo don't get hosed up) you can just use a simple epochal time keeping not unlike Julian day. Just ignore the earth, he won't hurt you if you stop measuring him with a clock. Well the point is that we can keep our time fixed like the Julian day, but ALSO keep the time simple and intuitive and in line with the seasons, or more accurately, keep the seasons in line with our new fixed time. Earth's rotation has been an unruly master for TOO LONG and must be brought to heel!
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When you think about it, what do we really need timekeeping for anyway?? In my ideal world, only scientists working in specialized areas who get a license would be allowed to keep time. It would simplify all our lives.
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The only reason we even started keeping standardized time was because of trains and who even rides trains anymore
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what if we put earth on a treadmill
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If you think about it the earth is already a giant treadmill
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DontMockMySmock posted:I already solved that when I adjusted Earth's rotational speed to be a perfect integer fraction of a year. poo poo youre right. my bad.
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Time is an arbitrary concept you guys. *schizophrenic break* (This happened to someone I know when his normal 6 hour shipboard watch got shortened to 5 hours, standing a rotating 6 hour watch, which is well known to increase the likelihood of schizophrenic episodes probably didn't help)
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zedprime posted:Multi body gravitational pull would like a word. You will never be rid of the leap second. Says you! https://what-if.xkcd.com/26/
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Timekeeping was a mistake and all divisions broader than dawn, dusk, and noon should be abolished. What time is it? Morning, afternoon, or night. You can say things like duskish night or noonish morning if you want a bit more precision, but that's it. Edit: and don't get me started on language
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Several people here outing themselves as those flaky friends you are forced to plan around and then backup plan around because you never know when or if they'll actually show up.
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 Report: Evaporation from California Irrigation Adds Enough Water to Colorado River to Supply 3 Million People The magnitude of this effect is questionable, but I have to give them points for the graphic. The paper
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Platystemon posted:
I adore the "perspective" on those 3D arrows.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Clear Much too readable. You show your true colors running dog!
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The Merkinman posted:Now every month, every year, can have Friday the 13th! Even Smarch! fix two problems at once by having each week (and therefore each month and year) start with a monday the image seems to be someone reimagining the International Fixed Calendar which was used by Kodak for decades
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Clear
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Doc Hawkins posted:fix two problems at once by having each week (and therefore each month and year) start with a monday This led me to discover ISO 8601, which clearly states that the week begins on a Monday, as God (Christian) intended. Also the decimal system needs to go, base 12 or bust.
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BonHair posted:This led me to discover ISO 8601, which clearly states that the week begins on a Monday, as God (Christian) intended. I am currently rather annoyed at the lack of compliance with ISO 8601. I habitually use the (objectively correct and standardized) yyyy-mm-dd format for dates. When filling out my I-9 form for my new job, I signed and dated it. It gets sent back. I have to use mm/dd/yyyy. Ok, fair enough (it actually says that on the form, I just didn't see it.) I send a new copy with the correct format. Nope. I can't send a new copy, I have to cross it out on the old one and write the new date. They did not specify this. Ok. That gets sent back. It took them a couple days to return it to me, and I'd used the new date when I was revising the document. That's not OK, either. Have to cross it out and send another copy with the date that I originally filled out the form, not the revision date. They just flat out don't see it. A week later, they urgently message me and say when are you sending this form, we need it ASAP. I reforward it. It comes back. I also need to write the revision date beside it. At no point before was this mentioned. They finally got it approved the day after I was actually supposed to start working. All because the US government uses a stupid non-standard date format. And because I can't follow simple instructions.
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Karia posted:I am currently rather annoyed at the lack of compliance with ISO 8601. I habitually use the (objectively correct and standardized) yyyy-mm-dd format for dates. When filling out my I-9 form for my new job, I signed and dated it. Totally in character for the US to settle the big-endian and little-endian debate by choosing the least useful and most confusing configuration of neither
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DarkHorse posted:Totally in character for the US to settle the big-endian and little-endian debate by choosing the least useful and most confusing configuration of neither Honestly one of the main reasons why yyyy/mm/dd is useful is because nobody does yyyy/dd/mm so there's no ambiguity. dd/mm/yyyy would be totally fine if not for there being a huge country that decided "actually we'll use mm/dd/yyyy and you'll just have to guess whether 02/03/2020 means February 3rd or March 2nd forever".
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Honestly one of the main reasons why yyyy/mm/dd is useful is because nobody does yyyy/dd/mm so there's no ambiguity. dd/mm/yyyy would be totally fine if not for there being a huge country that decided "actually we'll use mm/dd/yyyy and you'll just have to guess whether 02/03/2020 means February 3rd or March 2nd forever". You can always use the military standard 00XXX0000 date format, eg 23MAY2020, leaves no room for confusion. Of course the this varies by form even within sub departments of sub departments within the DOD, why do you ask?
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YYYY-MM-DD also means that things sort by date with a simple alphanumeric sort which is nice
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Elviscat posted:You can always use the military standard 00XXX0000 date format, eg 23MAY2020, leaves no room for confusion. Uh, are you sure? If you told me it was the 2020th day of May, or that 2020 had been going on for three years already, I'd totally believe you.
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Karia posted:Uh, are you sure? If you told me it was the 2020th day of May, or that 2020 had been going on for three years already, I'd totally believe you. you raise a good point, which is that all time is subjective and human attempts to measure or classify it are arrogant, doomed endeavors. this is why the only date format I use is ???/***/time/cube
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Elviscat posted:You can always use the military standard 00XXX0000 date format, eg 23MAY2020, leaves no room for confusion. Yeah we used this in the Australian Army as well. The Royal Australian Navy didn't. And it fell over whenever someone who didn't speak English as a first language tried to parse it. Good times.
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Elviscat posted:You can always use the military standard 00XXX0000 date format, eg 23MAY2020, leaves no room for confusion. I use this because I'm in hell-land and it removes ambiguity (as long as all your respondents are English speakers)
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I had to write code to parse some input file the other day that contains durations, aka periods of time. How do you write a period of 2 hours, 30 minutes and 5 seconds? Something like 2:30:05 seems sensible, right? That's how times in racing sports are written, anyway. That's what that input file used. But nope, to remove ambiguity with clock times, ISO8601 has a completely different format for durations, which looks like 2H30M5S. That's fine and all but turns out the java time parsing library cannot deal with durations written as 2:30 and requires the 2H30 format. So I had to write my own parser for that.
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Carbon dioxide posted:I had to write code to parse some input file the other day that contains durations, aka periods of time. I think that's the ISO standard for durations, so yeah, you'd have to do PT2H30M5S
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That period of time is 82779649088850.
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https://twitter.com/EnemyStepOnMe/status/1263629628738023424
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cool, we only have to change one letter in the topic title to make it current Post Your Favorite (or Request): To post is human; to list, divine. › PYF awful/funny graphs and charts: This is a useful way to look at date
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So, the Prime Minister’s special advisor, one of the masterminds behind Brexit, and de facto Prime Minister, Dominic Cummings… may be responsible for causing County Durham to become a COVID hotspot by breaking the quarantine he himself advised.
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