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...! posted:What if I said you're both This is like the 50th time you've used that emoji in this thread.
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# ? May 22, 2020 11:59 |
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MikusR posted:Xcloud uses literary same soc as Xbox One S. Add to that unified cooling and DC power and you get something that's more energy efficient. and then you turn on your pc to play and wipe out the savings
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# ? May 22, 2020 12:26 |
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My CPU gets hotter when I'm watching Twitch (streaming H.264 video) than when I'm gaming.
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# ? May 22, 2020 13:36 |
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I can imagine some large multiplayer games embracing the "celebrity" status/attraction of large streamers so that you'd get in-game alerts whenever they're online (in your shared lobby or whatever) or possibly incentives to play in the same space as them. However, no matter how I try to wrap my head around it, the idea of having random players interact with streamers in a live environment just sounds like a recipe for poo poo unless the streamers are afforded more power than regular players in some way. I don't think it will stop publishers from trying, though.
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# ? May 22, 2020 13:55 |
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American McGay posted:My CPU gets hotter when I'm watching Twitch (streaming H.264 video) than when I'm gaming. definitely uses less power than a 2080ti though. A GPU at full load draws a shitload more power than a mostly idle cpu or a chromebook, this power draw argument is stupid as hell. it's not bitcoin, it's a negligible difference and there are plenty other reasons to make fun of stadia.
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:03 |
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ErrEff posted:I can imagine some large multiplayer games embracing the "celebrity" status/attraction of large streamers so that you'd get in-game alerts whenever they're online (in your shared lobby or whatever) or possibly incentives to play in the same space as them. However, no matter how I try to wrap my head around it, the idea of having random players interact with streamers in a live environment just sounds like a recipe for poo poo unless the streamers are afforded more power than regular players in some way. It's already the reason that a lot of multiplayer streamers broadcast on a delay. Otherwise you can effectively screen-peek them.
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:09 |
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ErrEff posted:I can imagine some large multiplayer games embracing the "celebrity" status/attraction of large streamers so that you'd get in-game alerts whenever they're online (in your shared lobby or whatever) or possibly incentives to play in the same space as them. However, no matter how I try to wrap my head around it, the idea of having random players interact with streamers in a live environment just sounds like a recipe for poo poo unless the streamers are afforded more power than regular players in some way. It's one of those parasocial things that makes sense only to the fans because they have dreams of playing with their favourite streamer(s) and being as cool as them by association. Whereas any streamer wants a relatively-controlled environment with friends/teammates they can trust not to scream racial slurs the first time they die. And developers are always going to favour the streamer's side in designing anything that interacts with how the audience interacts with their gameplay, because the streamers are the ones that actually make them money as influencers.
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:16 |
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ErrEff posted:I can imagine some large multiplayer games embracing the "celebrity" status/attraction of large streamers so that you'd get in-game alerts whenever they're online (in your shared lobby or whatever) or possibly incentives to play in the same space as them. However, no matter how I try to wrap my head around it, the idea of having random players interact with streamers in a live environment just sounds like a recipe for poo poo unless the streamers are afforded more power than regular players in some way. many streamers will name their accounts something like O00O0OO00O specifically so people they play with don't know who they are people already try to stream-snipe and do other bullshit to mess with them. imagine if 50% of the server was trying to target you, and the other 50% was running around yelling "hey ninja come take a screenshot with me!" part of the attraction of watching a streamer is that they play the same game as you, only they're really really good at it. if streamers get their game changed so that in some way they're not playing the same game as a normal person is it won't be as fun to watch.
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:19 |
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Klyith posted:Also Stadia turns off your game after 15 minutes idle. Have you ever wandered off and left a game running, then got distracted and only came back hours later and been like "oops did I not turn this off?" If so, you've wasted more electricity than stadia's eco-conscious timeout. You know there's power save settings on all modern consoles right
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:19 |
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Yeah, I agree with all of you guys' points. My cynical take is just that I'm sure there will be a game soon-ish that will try to challenge this streamer/non-streamer dynamic and offer celebrity status to streamers that decide to take part in an attempt to boost view numbers, and some people will take them up on it.
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:25 |
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ErrEff posted:Yeah, I agree with all of you guys' points. My cynical take is just that I'm sure there will be a game soon-ish that will try to challenge this streamer/non-streamer dynamic and offer celebrity status to streamers that decide to take part in an attempt to boost view numbers, and some people will take them up on it. Also it will involve "ironic" nazism and be Pewdiepie.
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:56 |
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Just reading this, I know exactly which reddit user this is from. I don't think this guy is a paid shill, but I do think he's delusional and conversations with him in the past have revealed that he knows very little about the technology he proclaims that he works on. Considering he claims Google could make ~$200 million/year on average over the next decade even if they stopped updating it now, I think delusional is the only way to describe it.
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:34 |
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MikusR posted:Xcloud uses literary same soc as Xbox One S. Add to that unified cooling and DC power and you get something that's more energy efficient. Most people don't need active cooling for their home console, so it really does not matter how efficient their cooling is. Add to that people are sometimes streaming on the console itself, killing a big part of the advantage. Cloud computing in general may be energy efficient, but the idea that cloud gaming is more efficient is almost certainly not true under any circumstance. Hell it's probably the least ideal use of cloud infrastructure from an efficiency perspective: extremely low resource sharing and extremely high data transfer. Anyway all this poo poo is easily Googleable.
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:46 |
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quote:Stadia Pro: Remove Youtube advertisements
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:48 |
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leftist heap posted:Most people don't need active cooling for their home console, so it really does not matter how efficient their cooling is. Add to that people are sometimes streaming on the console itself, killing a big part of the advantage. All modern consoles use active cooling. The last generation to use passive cooling was PS2/OG Xbox.
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:51 |
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"Google should remove ads from a different service I use because I pay for this other service" Does he think that paying for say....Google Drive or something also grants magical no ad service on Youtube? it's all so, so stupid.
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:57 |
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cubicle gangster posted:definitely uses less power than a 2080ti though. A GPU at full load draws a shitload more power than a mostly idle cpu or a chromebook, this power draw argument is stupid as hell. no one owns a 2080ti and its power consumption is literally double the cards people actually use. and in stadias case theyre using a card that is beaten out by $250 parts but uses as much power as a 2080ti.
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:10 |
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joylessdivision posted:"Google should remove ads from a different service I use because I pay for this other service" before they abandoned google play music it included youtube premium and vice versa. it's not unheard of
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:17 |
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Microsoft builds ad-free Outlook into whatever the Microsoft 365 subscription is now if I remember right. It changed recently to give you even more stuff.
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:31 |
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joylessdivision posted:"Google should remove ads from a different service I use because I pay for this other service" Bundling subscription benefits to cover multiple streaming entertainment services under the same roof isn't a bad idea, and is something Google's done in the past already.
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:37 |
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Flared Basic Bitch posted:Imagine having a brain so riddled with dementia that you think streamers are excited to let randos gently caress with their format. limaCAT posted:Streamers don't even want developers to change things and make them easier for randos because that would gently caress with their format. I mean... Crowd Control is a thing that exists and is pretty popular, but the idea that devs that have their games on Stadia are going to implement anything like that in their games is pretty laughable.
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:48 |
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...! posted:All modern consoles use active cooling. The last generation to use passive cooling was PS2/OG Xbox. Yes, I ignored the fan inside cause it probably doesn't really compare much to what amounts an industrial refrigeration system in a data center.
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# ? May 22, 2020 19:07 |
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sethsez posted:Bundling subscription benefits to cover multiple streaming entertainment services under the same roof isn't a bad idea, and is something Google's done in the past already. For sure, but considering the amazing integration with Youtube and Stadia now.......oh........
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# ? May 22, 2020 19:17 |
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quote:The speed potential for Cloud Storage is infinitely greater than consoles or PCs will ever be capable of. But yes, it may take a year or so before its fully realized.
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# ? May 22, 2020 20:45 |
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the tech corridor is just a sentient dunning kruger effect
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# ? May 22, 2020 20:48 |
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Because every Stadia server has an 100GBit Ethernet or Infiniband card in it.
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:10 |
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Free on Epic: Civ VI Free on Stadia: *tumbleweed*
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:21 |
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quote:Valve is the underdog in cloud. Right now they're Myspace in 2004 (extremely popular among a niche audience). Amazon, Microsoft, and Google all know what the correct play is and have been building the infrastructure within their own ecosystem for years. quote:95 million users is not a "vice grip" on gaming. Mobile gaming dominates that number and cloud looks like it's going to dwarf it. Myspace itself had 76 million and was the only relevant social networking site at its peak.
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:24 |
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quote:Stadia changed my username? lol
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:26 |
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If I had an Epic store account and ever paid full price for a game I'd feel pretty silly by now. I guess their paid exclusives aren't eligible?
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:26 |
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Mods please rename HA to Happy Moose, tia.
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:34 |
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they really do have one person writing all of thesequote:Back in my teens and early 20s, I was a pretty dedicated gamer, playing all the CODs, Halos, Battlefield, etc etc. The later part of my 20s saw a drastic drop as life happened and I met who would eventually be my wife. My Xbox One had been collecting dust and solely dedicated to Netflix and other streaming until we got a Roku TV, then at that point maybe got played once a month when I had a free moment to actually play, which was almost never (adult problems).
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:41 |
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I used to be a gamer. I liked some popular games. Then I stopped gaming. Then I tried Stadia. I loved it because I could play games again. Can't wait to see what the future holds!
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:42 |
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If your adult life allows you only maybe an hour a week for leisure activities you've got issues that a Stadia can't solve, sorry.
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:42 |
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Funny how posty really leans on the "lapsed gamer" thing that isn't even real enough to be a trope, and how they have to throw in playing at work when that's either a terrible idea for your employment or definitely not happening now.American McGay posted:Mods please rename HA to Happy Moose, tia. Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 21:45 on May 22, 2020 |
# ? May 22, 2020 21:43 |
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Steam has 90 million monthly active users. The PS4 has 94. Yep, Steam sure needs to get into cloud poo poo to stay relevant.
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:47 |
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:51 |
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Shumagorath posted:Funny how posty really leans on the "lapsed gamer" thing that isn't even real enough to be a trope, and how they have to throw in playing at work when that's either a terrible idea for your employment or definitely not happening now. they lean on the "lapsed gamer" thing because they know that's what the marketing guy told his intern to write about
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:51 |
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the reason mobile gaming is so huge is specifically because you dont have to carry a controller around
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# ? May 22, 2020 21:55 |
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quote:That is correct. I had my Stadia controller and CLAW mount with me, but by the time I had it all hooked up, I was like... eh, I'll just play this way. Of course, LTE wasn't perfect (audio studdering and some frame freezes here and there) but it was VERY playable and never lost connection for about an hour playtime.
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