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We already got a Hernandez doc. I'd take a Gronk doc or belichick or randy moss or wilfork before Brady.
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Gronk is not even a little bit interesting. A Randy Moss doc would rule though.
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R.D. Mangles posted:10 part documentary on The Straight Shot Only if we get to see Dolan drunk off his rear end before he gave up the booze
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MourningView posted:Gronk is not even a little bit interesting. A Randy Moss doc would rule though. Rand U doesn't count? the guy who did Senna did one on Diego Maradona apparently as well, I need to track that one down. I think Spencer Hall put the news of the Tom Brady doc best: https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/1263526133720629249
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May 22, 2020 06:16
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harperdc posted:Rand U doesn't count? Rand U only covered his beginnings.
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May 22, 2020 13:15
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3 athletes I think need a documentary about their lives Ron Leflore (was so good for his prison baseball team he got an MLB deal and played well) Alan Wiggins (first and only big 4 sports player to die of AIDS, played for San Diego and Baltimore, was decent) Tony Hawk (I mean, c'mon) El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 13:48 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 13:45
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I could see a Mike Tyson docuseries drawing good numbers and being interesting.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I could see a Mike Tyson docuseries drawing good numbers and being interesting. Mike Tyson Mysteries isn't a documentary?!
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May 22, 2020 15:50
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Jamie Foxx is doing a biopic of Mike which should be good
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Metapod posted:Jamie Foxx is doing a biopic of Mike which should be good poo poo that sounds awesome
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Don't biopic's usually sugar coat and gloss over negative stuff a ton? Doing that to Tyson would be pretty lovely.
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Lockback posted:Don't biopic's usually sugar coat and gloss over negative stuff a ton? Doing that to Tyson would be pretty lovely. they do except for like, raging bull but i think it would alienate a lot of the audience to explicitly mention that the person theyre following around did a sexual battery
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El Gallinero Gros posted:3 athletes I think need a documentary about their lives I was curious if there was a documentary about Leflore already. Now I'm watching a biopic about him starring levar burton.
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I saw Tony Reali from Around the Horn mention this, but I think the sports figure that would work best as the subject of a long documentary series would be Vince McMahon He's maybe the only person where I would ask the question "Man, would 10 hours even be enough to cover everything?". Plus WWE is a rare thing where it's got a solid cultural presence but the average ESPN viewer wouldn't already come in with a knowledge of most of the details. Lure em in with the Attitude Era, keep em around for decades of cartoonish megalomania and corporate malfeasance I guess getting enough people to go on the record while he's still alive might be tricky though
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xbilkis posted:I saw Tony Reali from Around the Horn mention this, but I think the sports figure that would work best as the subject of a long documentary series would be Vince McMahon Even after he dies, I'd bet his kids would legally go after any doc that dared paint him in an unflattering light. The thing about Vince is that a lot of the grimmest stuff, like the rape allegation, the pedo ring operating under his nose, etc is heresy and conjecture and WWE's legal counsel is aggressive as gently caress.
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xbilkis posted:I saw Tony Reali from Around the Horn mention this, but I think the sports figure that would work best as the subject of a long documentary series would be Vince McMahon I would watch the hell out of that. Wrestling history is fascinating enough that I actually own several books on it, and I don't even watch WWE more than a couple times a year.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Even after he dies, I'd bet his kids would legally go after any doc that dared paint him in an unflattering light. The thing about Vince is that a lot of the grimmest stuff, like the rape allegation, the pedo ring operating under his nose, etc is heresy and conjecture and WWE's legal counsel is aggressive as gently caress. Yeah whitewashing Jordan is one thing because even if he's a delusional prick he's ultimately pretty harmless. Vince can be credibly accused of rape, covering up child sexual abuse, covering up a murder, running a steroid ring out of his locker room, and directly contributing to the death of employees, among other things. It would be so much worse to get a hagiography of him and that's almost certainly the only thing they'd be allowed to do (or even attempt to do since it seems like the two companies are pretty chummy)
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I doubt we'll see anything on Vince until after he dies. Very few people would be willing to speak up about stuff until then, but afterwards I think they'll feel more able to do so.
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xbilkis posted:I saw Tony Reali from Around the Horn mention this, but I think the sports figure that would work best as the subject of a long documentary series would be Vince McMahon The Tom Brady thing seems pretty obviously a "We need a White Person One" response to last dance, which made me think what sports-related white guy would be worth the treatment and this is exactly the right answer.
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Yeah, even after Vince dies any biographies of any kind about him are going to be a mix of white washed nonsense given rights and footage and cooperation by his family or absolutely brutal stuff that WWE sues to hell and bars anyone in the industry from getting involved in. Like there's a whole series of wrestling documentaries and they treat WWE as gingerly as possible most of the time because there's only so many people in the industry willing to burn those bridges. Its like trying to do a "Why the NFL is evil" documentary and then trying to get NFL players, coaches, execs, and journalists involved.
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Codependent Poster posted:I doubt we'll see anything on Vince until after he dies. Very few people would be willing to speak up about stuff until then, but afterwards I think they'll feel more able to do so. There has been: Sex, Lies, and Headlocks: The Real Story of Vince McMahon and World Wrestling Entertainment. Shaun Assael co-authored it. I haven't read it since it came out in 2004, but the page count is pretty short. It's not exhaustive by any stretch. I do remember stories of McMahon's childhood and how he worshiped the wrestling Graham brothers as a teen.
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I listened to the undertaker interview on the bill simmons podcast and man is that dude a toady for Vince.
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Dark side of the ring does a good job of making the WWE and Vince look really lovely. They arent docs about Vince but him being a piece of poo poo is why some those dark side of the ring episodes exist
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Bip Roberts posted:I listened to the undertaker interview on the bill simmons podcast and man is that dude a toady for Vince. Simmons has probably never seen non WWE wrestling, and he's a suckup to virtually every real athlete, even ones he's critical of like Isiah Thomas
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May 23, 2020 14:14
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More Bundesliga and tennis!quote:Baseball
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Simmons has probably never seen non WWE wrestling, and he's a suckup to virtually every real athlete, even ones he's critical of like Isiah Thomas Simmons might remember the nWo but definitely doesnt remember the NWA. And yeah, he might bark at athletes in columns/podcasts but rolls right over when he gets them on. The Sports Guy has absolutely become all he harangued against 15 years ago.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Simmons has probably never seen non WWE wrestling, and he's a suckup to virtually every real athlete, even ones he's critical of like Isiah Thomas one of the last times i listened to him he preferred nxt over aew then again last i checked 50+ is nxt's top demographic
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I know hockey isnt the most popular but I would love a huge doc series on Jaromir Jagr. One of the greatest to play the game. Massively long career. Born under communist Czechoslovakia. Had a stint in the KHL. Famously had insane work out regimes. And he seems like he has a genuinely good sense of humor. Hes still playing for his hometown team too. Also he had some gambling issues as well.
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Live golf, live soccer, and live racing from Charlotte! More tennis! The Lance Armstrong 30 for 30 is supposed to be pretty good as well. quote:Bundesliga
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Ive never really seen anything about it here so Id just like to say that Mina Kimes ESPN Daily podcast is really good and you all should listen to it.
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sportsgenius86 posted:Mina Kimes yes
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harperdc posted:Simmons might remember the nWo but definitely doesnt remember the NWA. And yeah, he might bark at athletes in columns/podcasts but rolls right over when he gets them on.
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DC Murderverse posted:Some Canadian entity should make one of these about Gretzky, he's very similar to Jordan career-wise, right down to the gambling loving up his life! gretzky was the prototype of the bland, aww shucks i just want to play hockey, anything interesting personality wise filed right off robot athlete. there's literally zero compelling footage of him outside of that time he cried (fake) tears when he forced his way out of edmonton
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yeah i love gretzky but he's bland as gently caress Live racing, live baseball for the night-owls, and DUNK CONTEST MARATHON STARTING NOW quote:Baseball
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That Woods/Mickelson/Manning/Brady charity match did massive numbersquote:The Turner Sports live broadcast also delivered tremendous television ratings, averaging 5.8 million viewers across TNT, TBS, TruTV, and HLN. That makes it the most-watched golf event in cable television history, topping the first round of the 2010 Masters on ESPN (4.9 million viewers). The event which had a delayed start due to rain peaked with an average of 6.3 million viewers from 5:45 to 6 p.m. ET. ANYWAY ONTO THE SCHEDULE Bundesliga, baseball, and trucks are live! ESPN at 7PM also has the instant classic of Cubs/Indians 2016 game 7. If you're up late, NHL Network has a hell of a goaltending duel of Patrick Roy and John Vanbiesbrouck at midnight in the 1996 Stanley Cup game 4 that went triple OT. quote:Baseball
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May 26, 2020 12:32
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I would watch an Ichiro documentary, especially if they got a lot of footage from his days playing in Japan.
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Doctor Teeth posted:I would watch an Ichiro documentary, especially if they got a lot of footage from his days playing in Japan. Agreed
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https://twitter.com/bkoo/status/1265313139861708801?s=20 oh dear
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More live baseball, footy, and racing! A fabulous throwback boxing match as well, of Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs. Sugar Ray Leonard at 8PM on ESPNNews. quote:Baseball
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