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Lost meant a lot to a lot of people, and while it's obviously fine to cut on it under the zeitgeist opinion that it was worthless pointless hogshit I think directly calling those people out is in poor spirit.
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I'm sorry but if you actually had faith  was going somewhere then lolIt wasn't like there was a bad finale and suddenly everyone turned on it, people were making fun of its trash nonsense writing for years before it ended.
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Daikloktos posted:Lost meant a lot to a lot of people, and while it's obviously fine to cut on it under the zeitgeist opinion that it was worthless pointless hogshit I think directly calling those people out is in poor spirit. It took me a few years to accept the fact that nobody in my social circles liked Lost as much as I did.
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Solitair posted:It took me a few years to accept the fact that nobody in my social circles liked Lost as much as I did.
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Mar 20, 2020 09:53
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I didn't really have a problem with the Battlestar Galactica finale because that worldview was set up pretty early on in the series, but the later seasons definitely struggle a lot with reconciling the characters' journeys with how they wanted to end, and have a bunch of plot twists that kind of come out of nowhere. I've never liked Lost, so the ending being widely panned didn't particularly surprise me.
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Mar 20, 2020 11:05
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Sometimes endings can be so heinously disappointing and unearned that it calls the entire project into question and retroactively consumes the goodwill. The best example is Game of Thrones. I’ve only watched the first 3 seasons with my brother and we’re both enjoying it, but that show was literally the most popular program on TV maybe ever. You couldn’t log on or really go anywhere or do anything without hearing about GoT and then the ending was so terrible that its entire ravenous fan base basically stopped giving a poo poo overnight. People still worship comic books and movies and video games from 20 years ago, but no one at any convention or nerd festival wants anything to do with Game of Thrones anymore, because the ending was apparently such garbage it retroactively makes the rest of the show bad. My understanding is LOST was essential the precursor to this phenomenon, sounds like BSG was pretty bad as well.
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Mar 20, 2020 12:06
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Yeah I mean the BSG ending was okay, I enjoyed it fine to be honest. It just felt kind of insulting how blithely it abandoned all its promises of tying up loose ends and long-predicted coherent answers to things and gave an emotionally satisfying, yet just kind of confusing and dull, conclusion.
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Mar 20, 2020 12:12
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The first half season eight was fine, but yeah, Game of Thrones just kind of ends, in a way that makes it feel like there wasn't really any point to all the intrigue or some overall theming that got wrapped up.
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Mar 20, 2020 12:13
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GoT turns into hyping up the series finale after all they ran out of book material. It was very much and they have a plan being toter in front of you for years. That makes all the hype meaningless. There were good season finales but they always felt like they were still hyping up the series finale. First 3 seasons is probably right I'm not going to check you might have 1 more good season. I also bet if you know the series ending is disappointing you wont hop on the hope train so you might actually like it. Hype is a bastard.
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Mar 20, 2020 12:16
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I liked all of GoT, for what it's worth, and I didn't mind the ending. It was just obvious that they didn't know where to pivot the series after the books ended, so they didn't pivot to anything, so it just ends with a shrug.
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Mar 20, 2020 12:24
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I’m just saying that in my community/age group it was literally the only TV show I can remember absolutely everyone being completely into. People from disparate social circles could all talk about GoT and took spoilers super seriously, etc. and then seemingly overnight it turned into like a Voldemort style bad word where everyone tried to just memory hole something they were hardcore obsessed with for years. Bojack’s ending makes me want to just watch the show again, in comparison, but not yet. I’m not very stable because of the pandemic, I don’t know that I could make it through any single season without a full on weepy breakdown, this show gets me in the feels like a laser guided missile.
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“I want to give them something terrific,” he says. “What if I gently caress it up at the end? What if I do a Lost? Then they’ll come after me with pitchforks and torches.” - GRRM, The New Yorker, 2011
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I didn't really have a problem with the Battlestar Galactica finale because that worldview was set up pretty early on in the series I didn’t hate it the way most people seem to, as well. It leaned a little too hard on God did it as an explanation, and some of the character endings were frustrating. But some like Roslin’s death and Adama’s reaction to it were gutting and excellent. And yeah: Bear McCreary loving killed it, the whole way through. The same could be said of GoT and Ramin Djawadi, as that goes. The later seasons sucked, but the music is loving incredible. “The Light of the Seven” and “The Night King” in particular are next level...he does some incredible things with a piano. Edit: To make this about Bojack, I think it landed the ending pretty well. “The View from Halfway Down” is such a good culmination of past motifs and plot points, I kind of don’t mind if the actual finale felt anticlimactic by comparison. It being anticlimactic feels like kind of the point, too: real life doesn’t have endings. You kind of keep going, and seldom get the catharsis you want. Xealot fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Mar 21, 2020 |
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I liked the ending of BSG too. Maybe it helped that I watched it long after it ended and binged through it pretty quickly. Also I always treated it as B-grade fun rather than a serious drama so maybe I was more willing to let things slide. "God did it" was actually kind of awesome imo, even though it was a literal deus ex machina. Religion being real in a sci fi space opera was a fun twist. Also, not directly ending related, but Gaius Baltar is one of my all-time favourite TV characters, that guy never failed to entertain.
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PostNouveau posted:Holy poo poo, the background gag here. This was S6 right? Brody Steven committed suicide earlier in 2019, so it was a nice tribute.
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Mar 22, 2020 22:35
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Should have been Bobo the depressed talking zebra.
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That’s too much, man.
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FronzelNeekburm posted:Starting a month before season 6 was announced and then reading through the better chunk of a decade of posts here saying, "I think Bojack's gonna take up running and get better next season!" was a fun ride. A Sometimes Food posted:Yeah I pretty much did this and it owned. Same here. So glad I did, what a great show. Though I wish I started earlier, this thread elevated my appreciation. A few months before I started, I threw out a bunch of notebooks and papers from when I was younger. When I saw "Good Damage", I was floored. My situation wasn't exactly like Diane's, but back then I would write about my own life and struggles as a way to practice long-form writing. Some of it was helpful in the past, but most wasn't and I carried those old notebooks with me through moves, jobs, relationships. I was carrying literal and figurative baggage and realized I was way late on moving on. "Good Damage" and "Stupid Piece of poo poo" both really struck me. Later I realized that their devices closely matched the short story "Good Old Neon" by David Foster Wallace, one of my all time favorites. The point of this post is to recommend that story for anybody that really clicked with those two episodes. The resemblance is undeniable. I wonder if the writers were inspired by it*. I would not call it a homage though, because the themes of all three media are just what goes on in the heads of manic people crippled by self-doubt, who can't get out of their own way, who are hobbled by a "vicious infinite regress" of ill thoughts. *Some showrunners were familiar with DFW because his non-fiction book "Consider the Lobster" appears in PC's office throughout the show.
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This is only marginally related, but in the last 2 days I completely plowed through Raphael Bob-Waksberg and Kate Purdy's next show, Undone. Going in, the less you know the better, but it's kind of like all the introspective mind-gently caress episodes of Bojack done in the same rotoscoped style of A Scanner Darkly. It's available through Amazon Prime Video, only 8 episodes, and each is about 25 minutes.
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Stryder posted:This is only marginally related, but in the last 2 days I completely plowed through Raphael Bob-Waksberg and Kate Purdy's next show, Undone. Going in, the less you know the better, but it's kind of like all the introspective mind-gently caress episodes of Bojack done in the same rotoscoped style of A Scanner Darkly. It's available through Amazon Prime Video, only 8 episodes, and each is about 25 minutes. I was once in a dissociative coma and it gave me flashbacks. Edit: I should warn you all that the show plays with the "what if people with mental illnesses are actually special and their meds are bad" trope, which is unfortunate and can be triggering for some, so, just a warning. LividLiquid fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Apr 5, 2020 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Bojack’s ending makes me want to just watch the show again, in comparison, but not yet. I’m not very stable because of the pandemic, I don’t know that I could make it through any single season without a full on weepy breakdown, this show gets me in the feels like a laser guided missile. I was not ready to be emotionally coldcocked when I heard Diane and Bojack talk at the end of "The View From Halfway Down." I was just a goddamn wreck. It's unfair that this is the same show that created Vincent Adultman.
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I couldn't find a Tuca and Bertie thread so... IT'S BACK BABYYYYYY: https://twitter.com/lisadraws/status/1263872025426190337 HELL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I couldn't find a Tuca and Bertie thread so... This sincerely gives me hope I’m so H Y P E D!!!!!!!!!
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Oh poo poo! I really didn't see this coming, but super happy it is. I bet it's because you can't make live action shows due to covid-19 so Netflix is greenlighting whatever content it can still make including more animation.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I couldn't find a Tuca and Bertie thread so... whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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It was a loving crime that Tuca and Bertie wasn't picked up for a second season straight away, super happy about this
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May 22, 2020 17:56
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I dont know posted:Oh poo poo! I really didn't see this coming, but super happy it is. it's not netflix though
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Asema posted:it's not netflix though Didn't notice that. I guess they sold the show. So much for my theory.
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May 22, 2020 17:58
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What? Oh my God! Virtue is inherent in the universe!
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Adult Swim delivers yet again. Hopefully they can shore up a good relationship, they're losing all their Fox syndication and need a strong stable.
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May 22, 2020 18:14
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MORE AND DIFFERENT ARTWORK
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May 22, 2020 18:17
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Well this is just FANTASTIC news!
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It's pretty fitting that the show not-about crippling depression managed to pull out a hopeful resolution, this is some happy news
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I'm super hyped about this, although I hope the animation isn't downgraded too much. Adult Swim shows have a uh, history.
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Hopefully Adult Swim gives it a fair chance and it doesn't become another show they randomly shove in at 1:00 AM on random Fridays and Sundays, though they usually do give the higher budget shows more attention.
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Adult Swim is FLUSH with that fresh Rick & Morty money and I'm certain the adult animation field is small enough that they do their best to support each other so it's easy to see this pick up. I wonder if they'll get S1 reruns as well?
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does adult swim still do 15 minute cartoons? i usually find that to be an optimal length for animated comedy
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I'm glad Adult Swim's app is cooler than CN's own app. So hopefully I'll be able to watch season 2 without having to resort to using sketchy websites. Awesome news. 
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Does the AS app not have any issues with the audio noticeably desyncing after a few minutes? I’ve been watching some of their shows on their site with my iPad’s browser, and I’ve been running into that in the past couple of weeks after no prior issues.
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