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Kyrosiris posted:Honestly if it wasn't for the third gold hairpin I might actually try it, but uh...
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# ? May 22, 2020 14:54 |
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 15:24 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Gold Hairpin is certainly worse but I wouldn't even try for Gourd with just Thief Knife. Only way I'd try for the Gourd with the Thief Knife is if I had White Mage or Mystic Knight.
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# ? May 22, 2020 15:03 |
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Newbie here who's heard of this and thought about joining years ago, but never got around to it. Is the Steam version fine to use? If it makes the game a little tougher, idc, whatever, but just checking that it's a reasonable way to do it since it's definitely the most accessible for me.
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# ? May 22, 2020 15:11 |
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MagusofStars posted:Newbie here who's heard of this and thought about joining years ago, but never got around to it. Steam version is fine for the mostpart, just note that unless you get a good combination of jobs, a lot of the post-game stuff can be inaccessible because they "fixed" some of the ways of avoiding boss mechanics, like Omnicient always being able to cast return, even if silenced.
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# ? May 22, 2020 15:14 |
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MagusofStars posted:Newbie here who's heard of this and thought about joining years ago, but never got around to it. The Steam version is based on the ios/Android version for phones, which fixes some bugs from previous versions (and introduces some new ones), but is perfectly playable for this.
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# ? May 22, 2020 15:16 |
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NGDBSS posted:I am the sort of doofus who will probably do this through savestates and incrementing the RNG. As a reminder: The original plan was three steals from optional world 3 quests, which was ruined by Odin’s protect ring not being a unique drop. Genji Armor is the replacement for that. Titan’s gloves was just a bonus joke challenge. dis astranagant posted:5. 2 Titan's Axes Not only did I completely forget about this, but also it doesn’t fit the theme because that’s a mandatory fight.
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# ? May 22, 2020 15:16 |
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The Skald $1 per run, up to $20, for each run wherein a Bard hits an enemy with an axe.
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# ? May 22, 2020 16:24 |
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Aerdan posted:The Skald You could also have a Berserker hitting an enemy with a harp, which is actually much more useful.
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# ? May 22, 2020 16:29 |
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For anyone curious, I've put together a list of differences found in the mobile/Steam version; you can find it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ff5fjf/com...ntent=post_body
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# ? May 22, 2020 16:35 |
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Ace Transmuter posted:You could also have a Berserker hitting an enemy with a harp, which is actually much more useful. What's the point in issuing a toxx for doing something useful?
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# ? May 22, 2020 16:39 |
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Ace Transmuter posted:You could also have a Berserker hitting an enemy with a harp, which is actually much more useful. In what universe? All the non-Apollo harps are poo poo.
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# ? May 22, 2020 16:59 |
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ultrafilter posted:What's the point in issuing a toxx for doing something useful? Fair. Kyrosiris posted:In what universe? All the non-Apollo harps are poo poo. You've got it. e: Also Equip Harps is a much more useful passive boost for Berserker than Equip Axes is for Bard. I would argue it is the best passive ability for the Berserker, even. Ace Transmuter fucked around with this message at 17:06 on May 22, 2020 |
# ? May 22, 2020 17:04 |
I'll donate $10, up to a maximum of $300 to Against Malaria Foundation for every pic of a geomancer attacking Neo-Exdeath with Gaia's Bell. Just post a pic of the attack and a pic of the bell being equipped on the geomancer and we're good.
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:23 |
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Ace Transmuter posted:e: Also Equip Harps is a much more useful passive boost for Berserker than Equip Axes is for Bard. I would argue it is the best passive ability for the Berserker, even.
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:39 |
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Ace Transmuter posted:You've got it. At that point the Rune Axe out-performs the Apollo Harp though. A Level 35 Lenna Berserker with Equip Harps uses the Apollo Harp and Rune Axe in separate attacks. She has base 46 strength and 39 magic. Rune Axe gives +3 magic, Apollo Harp gives no bonus stats. Therefore: quote:Kyrosiris: .mcalc 35 46 42 rune Rune Axe, with Rune boost: 71+10 Attack, M of 25 = 2025 damage Apollo Harp: 75 Spell Attack, M of 9 = 675 damage Even taking random variance and accuracy into account, you end up with (75...84) attack variance for the Harp and (45...116) attack power variance for the Rune Axe; apply a .9 multiplier to final damage to account for misses and you get: Rune Axe: [(45...116) * 25] * 0.9 = 1012 - 2610 effective damage per swing (1125 - 2900 printed) Apollo Harp: (75...84) * 9 = 675 - 756 damage per attack Obviously this all goes out the window if the target is undead or a dragon but yeah, the Apollo Harp is not going to do very much in a Berserker's hands.
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:42 |
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Kyrosiris posted:Obviously this all goes out the window if the target is undead or a dragon but yeah, the Apollo Harp is not going to do very much in a Berserker's hands. I guess I did have a Chemist on my last Bard/Berserker run...
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:12 |
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Chemisting enemies into dragons and Apollo Harping them is very funny and highly recommended
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:45 |
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One day I might actually kill omega in a fiesta run. One day I might actually finish more than one fiesta run in a year. Let's see if this year is that year.
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:58 |
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Alxprit posted:Chemisting enemies into dragons and Apollo Harping them is very funny and highly recommended This is very true. Going from 75 * M to 600 * M is a large difference.
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# ? May 22, 2020 19:01 |
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Apollo's Harp owns, but it's not fair to compare it to the best weapon in the game (fight me Cockshankers )
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# ? May 22, 2020 19:57 |
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This one was forgotten from last year:
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# ? May 22, 2020 20:09 |
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Mega64 posted:Apollo's Harp owns, but it's not fair to compare it to the best weapon in the game (fight me Cockshankers ) Best weapon in the game hm?
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# ? May 22, 2020 20:09 |
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Kyrosiris posted:Honestly if it wasn't for the third gold hairpin I might actually try it, but uh... I Thief Knifed the gold hairpin last year, but that was because: A) I was already doing all the optional stuff for my insane cutscene toxx (iirc, I did have to enter the tower but the Gogo fight itself wasn't necessary) B) My team was something ridiculous like black/red/summon/time, so I actually had a use for a third hairpin C) I was abusing savestates extensively
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# ? May 22, 2020 23:16 |
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Alxprit posted:Chemisting enemies into dragons and Apollo Harping them is very funny and highly recommended The chemist throws a ton of ingredients at the boss, points at it, and says "Omae wa mou shinryu."
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# ? May 23, 2020 00:25 |
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Fister Roboto posted:“Omae wa mou shinryu." My favorite Michael McDonald song
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# ? May 23, 2020 01:09 |
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Fister Roboto posted:The chemist throws a ton of ingredients at the boss, points at it, and says "Omae wa mou shinryu." "NANI?!"
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# ? May 23, 2020 01:54 |
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I'm doing this for the first time this year and from what I understand to get no repeated jobs but random any jobs I'd go for #regchaos? It seems like I might wanna add a 750 in there too but also I'm not sure if that only limits me to jobs that can break rods plus jobs that are similar in playstyle and theme or if it simply adds them to the list that can be pulled from. Also maybe I want #purechaos but I'm not sure if that's gonna give me potential duplicates, which I wanna avoid. It's been like 10 years or maybe longer since I've played this game so some of the terminology on the website is sorta unfamiliar but really I seem to be having trouble understanding what has a chance of giving me duplicate jobs versus what doesn't.
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# ? May 23, 2020 04:16 |
Chaos can give the duplicate jobs, Pure Chaos cannot. PC also throws Freelancer and Mime into the mix. I want Pure Chaos with duplicates. I also THINK that 750 is divided between jobs that can and jobs that can't use rods.
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# ? May 23, 2020 04:24 |
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750: White Mage, Black Mage, Blue Mage, Red Mage, Time Mage, Summoner, Bard, Geomancer, Dancer, Chemist No 750: Knight, Thief, Monk, Berserker, Mystic Knight, Ninja, Ranger, Beastmaster, Samurai, Dragoon 750 + Berserker Risk is a pretty good choice for a first run except that there are a few combinations that can have a rough early game.
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# ? May 23, 2020 04:30 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eutu8EXcmk0 A DRIFTING TENDER....COME RIDE, HEROES! RIDE!
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# ? May 23, 2020 04:30 |
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Chaos can give the duplicate jobs, Pure Chaos cannot. PC also throws Freelancer and Mime into the mix. oh okay thanks, PC sounds like what I'm looking for besides the chance to roll freelancer
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# ? May 23, 2020 04:34 |
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FWIW freelancer is actually pretty useful in a fiesta setting.
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# ? May 23, 2020 04:54 |
Yeah, even ignoring "just break rods for literally everything" Freelancer can use any weapon and armor in the game. They're very powerful just on their own, and can suck up a lot of useful things from your other jobs.
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# ? May 23, 2020 05:04 |
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I would genuinely pay RK if he'd just add #dupes as a modifier that can be applied to any run type.
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# ? May 23, 2020 05:13 |
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I need to get in on this.
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# ? May 23, 2020 07:55 |
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One week until preregistration! Get psyched
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# ? May 24, 2020 00:28 |
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Just want to take a moment to express sheer shock at this thread being in Games, when there's a Retro Games forum now with low enough traffic that it's practically as good as being stickied there. How any of you were even able to notice this thread shuffling behind the several dozen high traffic threads it has to compete for attention with in Games is beyond me. I couldn't search for it either. Anyway I just put in a report to have the thread moved. I'm assuming most of you just have it favorited anyway and for anyone else it'll be a lot easier to check in on in Retro Games.
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# ? May 24, 2020 10:14 |
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The thread gets stickied every year when preregistration starts though?
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# ? May 24, 2020 11:09 |
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Mr. Maltose posted:The thread gets stickied every year when preregistration starts though?
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# ? May 24, 2020 11:14 |
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Strictly speaking ads tend to work better for that than stickies.
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# ? May 24, 2020 11:51 |