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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Snape is literally just a grown man in a position of authority being openly pissed at a pre-teen because he didn't get to gently caress his mom.

There's a whole bit where Snape is the only one who can teach Harry about psychic defenses and doesn't really work because he hates Harry so much, and when Snape switches jobs and a better Potions teacher comes out of retirement Harry suddenly does a whole lot better at it. Snape is a lovely teacher.

An emotionally stunted man inappropriately furious at children in his care is very representative of the British private school system. The only thing missing is a scene where Snape rearranges the classroom so the students he wants to leer at are all sat at the front.

MonsieurChoc posted:

It really clicked for me when I finally got around to reading Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.

Great book and movie btw. I should get around to watching the series one of these days.

I watched the series a year or so back, it's really good. The film is dripping with style but the series really gets the mucky, crappy seventies feel to everything.

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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Thinking about it some more, magical anime body pillows would probably be enchanted just like those wizard mirrors that sass and nag you about your hygiene.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
I never looked it up before, apparently at some point Rowling defined the process to become an animagus:

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Animagus

You have to hold a leaf in your mouth for an entire month and then brew a potion. :what:

Also your animagus form is pre-determined. Lolling at the idea of some wizard taking the potion only to find out their animal form is a goldfish and flopping around on the floor.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008
I bet I can come up with 3 reasons being a goldfish is better than being regular Peter Pettigrew.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
I just remembered how arduous the books make it out to be and I'm mad about it

What part of this is difficult or would have taken McGonnagall until she was 17 to do?

quote:

Animagus is holding the leaf of a mandrake in their mouth for an entire month, using the leaf for the creation of a potion, reciting an incantation (Amato Animo Animato Animagus) on a daily basis[2], and drinking the Animagus potion during a lightning storm.

Why are there no animaguses in all of Harry's time at Hogwarts?

Why does that wiki page say that it's debated whether or not someone's Animagus form can be a dementor?

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747
You can be a magical-creature Animagus at all?

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.
The whole "your animal form is predetermined" is dumb. The books implied that the Marauders chose their forms specifically to make it easier to hang out with Lupin while he was in werewolf form. Peter taking on the form of a rat so that he could deactivate the willow, and James and Sirius becoming a stag and a dog because they'd be large enough to keep Lupin in check if he went out of control and tried to attack a human.

Daikloktos posted:

You can be a magical-creature Animagus at all?

According to the article, it's debated, but believed to be possible.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
I subscribe to the belief that if it isn't in the books it doesn't exist.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'd say Rowling should just farm her poo poo out to ghost writers to create a massive terrible beta canon to expand her fortune with, but I guess the fanfic already has that covered.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
it would be pretty rad actually if she licensed out the setting to some filmmakers. I would watch the hell out of a quentin tarantino movie in harry potter world

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I suppose that's kind of what they tried to do with Fantastic Beasts but lol

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Could Moaning Myrtle physically interact with objects? I don't remember, but if she could, it seems like she could do the animagus spell, transform into an animal, and finally escape the toilets. Right?

Cause that's a really depressing and hosed up scenario that I was annoyed was always played for laughs.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008
Wizards have some kind of banishment spell for when they really need a ghost to leave. The staff decided having a bathroom none of the students would actually use would be neat.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I suppose that's kind of what they tried to do with Fantastic Beasts but lol

I never watched the movie, how bad was it?

reignofevil posted:

Wizards have some kind of banishment spell for when they really need a ghost to leave. The staff decided having a bathroom none of the students would actually use that Filch is forced to mop and clean every hour would be neat.

Fixed for maximum wizard assholery.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

amigolupus posted:

Fixed for maximum wizard assholery.

it's his fault for being a dirty, dirty squib


actually being a squib would be pretty dope because you could still go buy spells and potions and poo poo to make yourself a god amongst the muggles, magic up a huge dong, etc.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

amigolupus posted:

I never watched the movie, how bad was it?



Movies, plural.

And the second one ends with Wizard Hitler taking a strong stance against the actual Nazis while our heroes stand against him.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Sharkie posted:

Could Moaning Myrtle physically interact with objects? I don't remember, but if she could, it seems like she could do the animagus spell, transform into an animal, and finally escape the toilets. Right?

Cause that's a really depressing and hosed up scenario that I was annoyed was always played for laughs.

oh just found this on the wiki. learning a lot today

quote:

The Ministry of Magic seems to have at least a degree of power and jurisdiction over ghosts, as Moaning Myrtle was forced to return to her place of death, which was Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, when she disrupted the wedding of the brother of Olive Hornby.[11]

which cites this line from book 4:

quote:

"-and then, of course, she went to the Ministry of Magic to stop me stalking her, so I had to come back here and live in my toilet."

so she had the ability to leave Hogwarts until the cops got mad at her. now she lives in a toilet.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

"Get back in the loving toilet, no we don't have any idea how you died and frankly we don't care."

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

josh04 posted:

"Get back in the loving toilet, no we don't have any idea how you died and frankly we don't care."

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Zore posted:

Movies, plural.

And the second one ends with Wizard Hitler taking a strong stance against the actual Nazis while our heroes stand against him.

beginning to think this is honestly just realistic the more I learn about the whimsical world of Harry Potter

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

josh04 posted:

"Get back in the loving toilet, no we don't have any idea how you died and frankly we don't care."

Why didn't the toilet ghost go live with her presumably still alive parents.

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/597730858808782848?lang=en

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


VanSandman posted:

Why didn't the toilet ghost go live with her presumably still alive parents.

The parents actually came to live with her. No one likes to talk about that chapter of Hogwarts history.

BIG FLUFFY DOG fucked around with this message at 05:07 on May 24, 2020

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

This is the funniest thing she's ever written and it certainly wasn't on purpose

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

VanSandman posted:

I subscribe to the belief that if it isn't in the books it doesn't exist.

The only Harry Potter that is canon is My Immortal

Also isn't Grindelwald from the second Beasts movie modeled after the UK's greatest monster, Jeremy Corbyn

Feldegast42 fucked around with this message at 14:12 on May 25, 2020

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Ghost Leviathan posted:

This is the funniest thing she's ever written and it certainly wasn't on purpose

Hard agree.
Although some of the coincidences in the 2nd book get pretty ridiculous.

Also re: Grindlewald being based on Corbyn, I'd believe it. Rowling was notoriously Blairite, which is just... despicable.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
I couldn't make it through grindelwald. Eight hours passed before me but the dial said only 30 minutes had

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
I still can't believe Wizard Hitler's motivation was retconned to him becoming Wizard HitlerTM in order to stop Real HitlerTM

Did those movies do well? Are we going to get a third so I can watch clips on Youtube of Jude Law and Johnny Depp having an incredibly awkward CGI magic fight that have a bunch of comments with 1K+ likes about how incredible and emotional the scene is?

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Sydin posted:

Did those movies do well? Are we going to get a third so I can watch clips on Youtube of Jude Law and Johnny Depp having an incredibly awkward CGI magic fight that have a bunch of comments with 1K+ likes about how incredible and emotional the scene is?

The first one did pretty well ($850m total worldwide) on the hype of "Wow! New Wizarding World™ of Harry Potter™ Content!" And then The Crims of Grimblewizzle did that modern Hollywood thing where it grossly underperformed with "Just" $150m domestic and "Only" a $650m total worldwide gross.

They're in production on the third, it was supposed to begin filming this spring but that obviously got delayed; it was announced as a planned trilogy, and then Rowling claimed it would be a 5 film series, at least (Of course, she also said Fantastic Beasts would be its own story, and not a prequel with direct links to the original Harry Potter stories.) Given that the returns are cratering, so I'll be surprised if it goes beyond the next one. Warner's probably eager to just reboot the HP series proper.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Sydin posted:

I still can't believe Wizard Hitler's motivation was retconned to him becoming Wizard HitlerTM in order to stop Real HitlerTM

Did those movies do well? Are we going to get a third so I can watch clips on Youtube of Jude Law and Johnny Depp having an incredibly awkward CGI magic fight that have a bunch of comments with 1K+ likes about how incredible and emotional the scene is?

Voldemort was wizard Hitler. Grindlewald was I guess wizard Stalin? Or some more obscure eastern European monster. He's not supposed to be well known in western Europe.

Although they're not so much tyrannical dictators as serial killers with cult followings, since there's so very few wizards and it's not like thousands of normal humans can die without somebody noticing.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Is it ever at any point made clear how many wizards there actually are or the scale of wizard socitey? The only prominent employers ever seen is the ministry of magic amd hogwarts. What level of private imdustry is there amd of theres none how is the ministry funded? Is Wizard society secretly socialist or communist?

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Is Wizard society secretly socialist or communist?

Given that most of the prominent followers of the big bad are old money wizard "nobility," and how Harry's main rival keeps giving Harry's best friend poo poo for being poor, I'ma go out on a limb here and guess "no" to both.

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

SlothfulCobra posted:

Voldemort was wizard Hitler. Grindlewald was I guess wizard Stalin? Or some more obscure eastern European monster. He's not supposed to be well known in western Europe.

Although they're not so much tyrannical dictators as serial killers with cult followings, since there's so very few wizards and it's not like thousands of normal humans can die without somebody noticing.

Grindelwald predates Voldemort. He is the original wizard Hitler, and Voldemort is a wizard Neo-Nazi. Grindelwald is pretty well known to western European wizards IIRC.

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

PeterWeller posted:

Grindelwald is pretty well known to western European wizards IIRC.

it's only Harry who isn't aware of the very important parts of Wizarding history that come to a head in the final books because Rowling hadn't written that plot point yethe's a bad student and a moron who has no curiosity about his world

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


W.T. Fits posted:

Given that most of the prominent followers of the big bad are old money wizard "nobility," and how Harry's main rival keeps giving Harry's best friend poo poo for being poor, I'ma go out on a limb here and guess "no" to both.

The Wizards seem to very much reflect what Rowling wishes were true about the real world: that the lib-dems are a major political force and not a punchline.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a32653364/she-ra-noelle-stevenson-theory-bow-trans/

quote:

However her love for the theory doesn't mean that we're about to see Bow confirmed as a trans character on the show, with Stevenson explaining that she would have approached things differently initially if that had always been her intention.

"I will say, it is something I'm a little hesitant to canonise, because, honestly, I would have cast a trans actor if that was something I wanted to [do]. If I wanted that character to be very canonically trans, I think that would have been a really cool thing to do," she said. "It's just something I want to be a little cautious around, because I don't want to be adding to things after the fact – you know, pulling a JK Rowling, essentially."

Lolnl that other creatives are openly making fun of JK Rowling now

Roth fucked around with this message at 21:14 on May 29, 2020

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Roth posted:

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a32653364/she-ra-noelle-stevenson-theory-bow-trans/


Lolnl that other creatives are openly making fun of JK Rowling now

Deflecting from the lack of trans characters in your show by whatabouting a popular pop culture punching bag isn't really a good look.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Considering she casted a non binary person as a non binary character and ended the show with multiple wlw relationships, it actually is a good look to mock JK Rowling's after the fact representation.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

JethroMcB posted:

it's only Harry who isn't aware of the very important parts of Wizarding history that come to a head in the final books because Rowling hadn't written that plot point yethe's a bad student and a moron who has no curiosity about his world

Harry Potter really is the story of a rich, privileged white guy failing upwards until he becomes a cop.

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Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747

PeterWeller posted:

Grindelwald predates Voldemort. He is the original wizard Hitler, and Voldemort is a wizard Neo-Nazi. Grindelwald is pretty well known to western European wizards IIRC.
Xenophillius is able to generally get away with wearing what Krum associates as Grindlewald's mark to the point of wanting to belt him straight away for wearing it. Made it seem like Britain wasn't too directly involved with him.

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