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lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon
I’ve only read the Locas stories, so the above post is baffling and enticing to me.

What do you all think about going back and forth between Locas and Palomar books for this thread? Comparing what the brothers were doing at the the same time sounds fun.

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How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

lifg posted:

I’ve only read the Locas stories, so the above post is baffling and enticing to me.

What do you all think about going back and forth between Locas and Palomar books for this thread? Comparing what the brothers were doing at the the same time sounds fun.

I think it's a solid idea, although the recent Fantagraphics collections make some weird decisions in terms of printing order, so you're not always getting a straight chronology per se. I do feel like Gilbert hits the ground running with Palomar a little more quickly than Jaime does with the Locas stuff, Heartbreak Soup is excellent from page one.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

How Wonderful! posted:

I think it's a solid idea, although the recent Fantagraphics collections make some weird decisions in terms of printing order, so you're not always getting a straight chronology per se. I do feel like Gilbert hits the ground running with Palomar a little more quickly than Jaime does with the Locas stuff, Heartbreak Soup is excellent from page one.

Gilbert got his weirdness/experminental out in most of the non-Palomar stuff he was doing in Love and Rockets, where as Jaimie has basically stayed on variations on Locas for his entire career.

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon
Are those early experiments missing from the Fantagraphics L&R collections?

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
A lot of it is in Amor y Cohetes but I'm not sure if all of it is. I think that Comics Dementia is mostly slightly more recent stuff (90s onwards) but I could be off.

fez_machine posted:

Gilbert got his weirdness/experminental out in most of the non-Palomar stuff he was doing in Love and Rockets, where as Jaimie has basically stayed on variations on Locas for his entire career.

Hm, I don't know, I think that even a lot of his "main" projects are really at their best when he dives back into magical realism and this almost numinous element of strangeness. I was thinking of the tree in "Spirit of the Thing" and I think Poison River that gives whoever approaches it what they want depending on how long they can bear to see it reveal itself, the "bird research" people in Children of Palomar, stuff like that.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

How Wonderful! posted:

A lot of it is in Amor y Cohetes but I'm not sure if all of it is. I think that Comics Dementia is mostly slightly more recent stuff (90s onwards) but I could be off.


Hm, I don't know, I think that even a lot of his "main" projects are really at their best when he dives back into magical realism and this almost numinous element of strangeness. I was thinking of the tree in "Spirit of the Thing" and I think Poison River that gives whoever approaches it what they want depending on how long they can bear to see it reveal itself, the "bird research" people in Children of Palomar, stuff like that.

I phrased it badly, I think, what I meant was that the early Palomar stuff occupies firmer literary ground than early Locas. While Jaimie is dabbling in super heroes and super science and dinosaurs, Beto did all his pulp genre experimentation in the stuff collected in Amor y Cohetes.

In some ways Beto is more interesting to me because he's just as good a cartoonist as Jaimie if radically different in style, but rejected the early praise and interest to do his own weirdness. There's a lot of people who would have been very happy to see Gilbert do Palomar forever and ever. Certainly when I was reading the original collections, I liked Beto's stuff more than I liked Jaimie's. It definitely flipped at some point though.

Beto's highs in Love and Rockets Volume 1 are very high, but you can see him bristling against being pigeon holed into latin american magical realism soap opera.

Jaimie's interests have largely coincided with the audience's interests once he got his groove going. Except maybe his latest stuff which is showing a bit of the ol' Beto, "gently caress you, this comic is about new characters".

Comics Dementia has some stuff going back to the 80s, but yeah it's mainly 90s onwards. Reading collections of the Hernandez bros. is a nightmare of missed stuff including Beto whole heap of non-Love and Rockets comics that range from sublime to "interesting" most of which are uncollected. That's not even beginning to talk about all the stuff Mario has done (which I think is pretty good! If not to the standard of his brothers).

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Oh yeah, you have a good point. Love and Rockets, while being their main thing, is not the only thing Los Bros have done. There's some other comics, guest strips, pin-ups and short stories that have never been collected and that must be a bitch to track down, since they were originally in indie or small press comics from the 80's and 90's.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Vincent posted:

Oh yeah, you have a good point. Love and Rockets, while being their main thing, is not the only thing Los Bros have done. There's some other comics, guest strips, pin-ups and short stories that have never been collected and that must be a bitch to track down, since they were originally in indie or small press comics from the 80's and 90's.

Worse, there's stuff done for Dark Horse, Marvel, DC, and Image from the 2000s that's uncollected as well.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Yeah there’s lots of random stuff. DC did some weird pulls in the 2000s, with guys like Pete Bagge and Gilbert Hernandez doing little mini series.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
Oh yeah, there was a Beto/Darwyn Cooke miniseries that I very very vaguely remember.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
I think the majority of Beto's stuff is collected, at least projects of any length; contributions to anthologies almost always get left behind whether it's down to rights issues, creators not wanting to reprint them, or there just not really being a space for them. In terms of major works not printed as "Love & Rockets" from Beto:

Still Basically Love & Rockets
New Love (1996), Luba (1999), Luba's Comics and Stories (2001): Almost all collected in the Love & Rockets Library

Love & Rockets Related But Collected Separately
New Tales of Old Palomar (2006): Collected in Children of Palomar (2013), available physically/digitally from Fantagraphics
Julio's Day: Originally printed in Love & Rockets, but collected separately (I think the Library editions are already well past where it would be slotted in there?
Adventures of Venus: Largely reprints from the "Measles" anthology book, along with an original story, available physically/digitally from Fantagraphics. All-ages stories about Luba's niece.
Chance in Hell (2007), The Troublemakers (2009), and Love From the Shadows (2011) : A series of OGNs described as "comic adaptations starring or co-starring Fritz from Love & Rockets", all available physically and digitally from Fantagraphics.
Speak of the Devil (2004): Described as "not an adaptation of the Fritz-starring movie, but a chronicle of the actual events that inspired the movie". Available as a physical/digital collection from Dark Horse

Other Stuff
Mister X: Beto and Jaime's 1980s work is reprinted in Mister X Archives from Dark Horse
Birdland: Gilbert's erotica series from Eros/Fantagraphics, not on Comixology for obvious reasons but various reprints are around.
Girl Crazy (1997): Collected by Dark Horse
Yeah! (1999): Written by Peter Bagge, drawn by Gilbert. Originally published by DC, reprinted physically and digitally by Fantagraphics
Grip: The Strange World of Men (2002): Originally published by Vertigo, reprinted physically and digitally by Dark Horse
Birds of Prey: Gilbert wrote a six issue arc of Birds of Prey (1999, #50-56) that as of yet is not collected but all the single issues are up on Comixology.
Sloth (2006): A Vertigo OGN that looks like it's out of print, but will presumably lapse back to the creators (like Yeah! and Sloth did) and get reprinted soon
Citizen Rex (2009): A Mario/Beto collaboration, available physically/digitally from Dark Horse
Fatima: The Blood Spinners (2015): Sci-Fi story that I am kind of surprised isn't a Fritz movie "adaptation" (unless it is, somehow?) available physically/digitally from Dark Horse
Marble Season (2013) and Bumperhead (2014): OGNs from Drawn & Quarterly, available physically and digitally
Loverboys (2015): Available physically and digitally from Dark Horse
The Twilight Children (2015): Vertigo mini-series written by Gilbert, drawn by Darwyn Cooke. In print as a trade/up on Comixology
Blubber (2016): A mash-up of funny animals, Kirby Monsters, and porno. Available as digital single issues on Comixology from Fantagraphics.
Garden of the Flesh (2016): An erotica(?) retelling of the Book of Genesis, I guess? Available physically/digitally from Fantagraphics
Assasinistas (2017): A Black Crown book written by Tini Howard, drawn by Gilbert. Collected/available on Comixology

Really the only thing here that doesn't appear to be in print is Birdland.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Edge & Christian posted:

I think the majority of Beto's stuff is collected, at least projects of any length; contributions to anthologies almost always get left behind whether it's down to rights issues, creators not wanting to reprint them, or there just not really being a space for them. In terms of major works not printed as "Love & Rockets" from Beto:

Still Basically Love & Rockets
New Love (1996), Luba (1999), Luba's Comics and Stories (2001): Almost all collected in the Love & Rockets Library

Love & Rockets Related But Collected Separately
New Tales of Old Palomar (2006): Collected in Children of Palomar (2013), available physically/digitally from Fantagraphics
Julio's Day: Originally printed in Love & Rockets, but collected separately (I think the Library editions are already well past where it would be slotted in there?
Adventures of Venus: Largely reprints from the "Measles" anthology book, along with an original story, available physically/digitally from Fantagraphics. All-ages stories about Luba's niece.
Chance in Hell (2007), The Troublemakers (2009), and Love From the Shadows (2011) : A series of OGNs described as "comic adaptations starring or co-starring Fritz from Love & Rockets", all available physically and digitally from Fantagraphics.
Speak of the Devil (2004): Described as "not an adaptation of the Fritz-starring movie, but a chronicle of the actual events that inspired the movie". Available as a physical/digital collection from Dark Horse

Other Stuff
Mister X: Beto and Jaime's 1980s work is reprinted in Mister X Archives from Dark Horse
Birdland: Gilbert's erotica series from Eros/Fantagraphics, not on Comixology for obvious reasons but various reprints are around.
Girl Crazy (1997): Collected by Dark Horse
Yeah! (1999): Written by Peter Bagge, drawn by Gilbert. Originally published by DC, reprinted physically and digitally by Fantagraphics
Grip: The Strange World of Men (2002): Originally published by Vertigo, reprinted physically and digitally by Dark Horse
Birds of Prey: Gilbert wrote a six issue arc of Birds of Prey (1999, #50-56) that as of yet is not collected but all the single issues are up on Comixology.
Sloth (2006): A Vertigo OGN that looks like it's out of print, but will presumably lapse back to the creators (like Yeah! and Sloth did) and get reprinted soon
Citizen Rex (2009): A Mario/Beto collaboration, available physically/digitally from Dark Horse
Fatima: The Blood Spinners (2015): Sci-Fi story that I am kind of surprised isn't a Fritz movie "adaptation" (unless it is, somehow?) available physically/digitally from Dark Horse
Marble Season (2013) and Bumperhead (2014): OGNs from Drawn & Quarterly, available physically and digitally
Loverboys (2015): Available physically and digitally from Dark Horse
The Twilight Children (2015): Vertigo mini-series written by Gilbert, drawn by Darwyn Cooke. In print as a trade/up on Comixology
Blubber (2016): A mash-up of funny animals, Kirby Monsters, and porno. Available as digital single issues on Comixology from Fantagraphics.
Garden of the Flesh (2016): An erotica(?) retelling of the Book of Genesis, I guess? Available physically/digitally from Fantagraphics
Assasinistas (2017): A Black Crown book written by Tini Howard, drawn by Gilbert. Collected/available on Comixology

Really the only thing here that doesn't appear to be in print is Birdland.

Most of Adventures of Venus is also collected in Luba and Her Family, interpolated in between a bunch of stuff with Petra and co., which... makes them read a lot differently than they did in Measles.

Edit: I would have also sworn on my grave that Fatima was a Fritz thing but whoa, I guess not.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I finished Maggie the Mechanic last night. It definitely becomes a bit more enjoyable as the collection goes on. It's surprisingly dense in its storytelling, in a way you rarely see in superhero comics, particularly, but in American comics in general. An 8 page story does more than entire comic books. Looking forward to reading more! Comixology helpfully recommended the next Locas book at the end, so I borrowed that.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



How Wonderful! posted:

Oh yeah, there was a Beto/Darwyn Cooke miniseries that I very very vaguely remember.

Oh wow! Didn't know about that. Gonna track it down.

Edge & Christian posted:


The Twilight Children (2015): Vertigo mini-series written by Gilbert, drawn by Darwyn Cooke. In print as a trade/up on Comixology
Nice!

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I'm rereading Beto's Palomar material now, and I'm through the "Human Diastrophism" epic and all of a sudden into stories about Luba's mother, Fritz, Petra, Hector, and Gorgo. That was a pretty sudden tonal shift. Since all I read of his stuff was the giant Palomar hardcover over 15 years ago, I have a feeling the rest of the Beto material is going to be completely new to me.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
"Human Disastrophism" is a masterpiece and then right after it "Love & Rockets X."

I reread "Is This How You See Me?" today and I think it's like apex Jaime, and it hits so differently for me at the age I am now than it did when it was coming out. I also think it's Jaime at his warmest and at his most pitched fondness for the characters, god, it's perfect.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
I don't know much about this series but skimming this thread has been interesting: I was first made aware of its existence when doing research because Gilbert showed up out of nowhere being involved in the outline for a random season 7 adventure time episode

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I've looked around the Internet for articles analyzing Love & Rockets, but most of them are so vague and full of repeated cliches that I wonder how much of the series the article writers have actually read. But this 2001 Salon article, written by a woman and examining Beto and Jaime's female characters, actually gives a good sense of what the comics are actually about :

https://www.salon.com/2001/02/20/hernandez/

EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

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Oh hell yeah, I didn't even know this thread was a thing. L&R is my absolute favorite comic of all time although I'm a bit behind on the newer stuff. I actually randomly met Los Bros a few years ago at a con that I didn't even know they were appearing at. The line to meet them was about 3 people long and I was a total fanboy and repurchased the complete run of the original trades from them just to get them signed. I ended up hanging out with them for about a half hour as no one else even walked up while I was there. Had a great convo about wrestling, the (then current) Daredevil movie, and how the band Love and Rockets is a T-Rex knock off and got a couple of sketches from them. Hands down the coolest interaction I've ever had with anyone from comics.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
Well, I just finished "Poison River" in the Beyond Palomar collection, and that was really something. It was so complicated, I'm worried I missed a few key details, but I think I figured out most of it.

So both Peter Rio and his father Fermin had relationships with Maria at different times, but was it implied that she was Peter's own mother? Because I know Fermin felt a protective, fatherly affection toward Luba, because she was Maria's daughter AND Peter's wife, but as creepy and toxic and messed-up as everything was, to think of Peter and Luba as half-siblings on top of being married, with that huge age difference and Luba just a teenager... that's some James Ellroy poo poo.

One thing that I missed was that both Peter and Fermin had also had relationships with Isobel at different times, and as part of the deal for Peter getting Isobel a baby, that's why Luba's baby, who was fathered by Captain Ortiz, was taken away from her, and that's why she was told it died, right?

And was Blas really just a good friend who cared about Peter, or did he have ulterior motives the entire time? He definitely made everyone suspicious, but Peter had a soft spot for him, and he seemed skilled at worming his way into everyone's confidences.

When Fermin was taking out all the old enemies, I hoped he (or someone else) would get revenge on Docho the guitarist, for raping Luba.


EdsTeioh posted:

Oh hell yeah, I didn't even know this thread was a thing. L&R is my absolute favorite comic of all time although I'm a bit behind on the newer stuff. I actually randomly met Los Bros a few years ago at a con that I didn't even know they were appearing at. The line to meet them was about 3 people long and I was a total fanboy and repurchased the complete run of the original trades from them just to get them signed. I ended up hanging out with them for about a half hour as no one else even walked up while I was there. Had a great convo about wrestling, the (then current) Daredevil movie, and how the band Love and Rockets is a T-Rex knock off and got a couple of sketches from them. Hands down the coolest interaction I've ever had with anyone from comics.

Having met a lot of creators at cons, including MOST of my favorites, that is an awesome story. The only reason I go to cons is to get my books signed and chat with the creators. I've had some unforgettable moments gushing over some of my heroes and getting to know them a bit.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

.. that's some James Ellroy poo poo.
That's exactly how I'd describe it although I think "Poison River" is around where Beto becomes really invested in Almodovar-style psychosexual potboiler stuff too-- I think Fritzi is the main vehicle for this although it's really consistent around the whole trio of sisters, all this doubling, tripling, really textbook unheimlich stuff.

quote:

And was Blas really just a good friend who cared about Peter, or did he have ulterior motives the entire time? He definitely made everyone suspicious, but Peter had a soft spot for him, and he seemed skilled at worming his way into everyone's confidences.

I remember wondering this too and waiting for it to pay off in some more sensational way.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

How Wonderful! posted:

That's exactly how I'd describe it although I think "Poison River" is around where Beto becomes really invested in Almodovar-style psychosexual potboiler stuff too-- I think Fritzi is the main vehicle for this although it's really consistent around the whole trio of sisters, all this doubling, tripling, really textbook unheimlich stuff.


I remember wondering this too and waiting for it to pay off in some more sensational way.

So Peter and Luba really WERE both Fermin's children? That's what I thought, but wasn't sure. So Peter first slept with his mom and then married his half-sister when he was middle-aged and she was just a teenager? GOOD GRIEF.

Last night I finished "Love and Rockets X," which was okay. But when I looked it up to find out more information about it, I learned about the existence of Beto's Birdland, which was flat-out porn/erotica, starring Fritz (who hypnotized and slept with her patients!?) and Petra! And that sounds like the least-weird part. I wonder if that was meant to be in continuity, or kind of an "Elseworlds" or "What If." Of course the Hoopla service doesn't include that one!

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EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

So Peter and Luba really WERE both Fermin's children? That's what I thought, but wasn't sure. So Peter first slept with his mom and then married his half-sister when he was middle-aged and she was just a teenager? GOOD GRIEF.

Last night I finished "Love and Rockets X," which was okay. But when I looked it up to find out more information about it, I learned about the existence of Beto's Birdland, which was flat-out porn/erotica, starring Fritz (who hypnotized and slept with her patients!?) and Petra! And that sounds like the least-weird part. I wonder if that was meant to be in continuity, or kind of an "Elseworlds" or "What If." Of course the Hoopla service doesn't include that one!

I'm not sure if Birdland ever got reprinted at all did it? I randomly picked up the issues at a flea market a few years ago and...yeah...

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



How Wonderful! posted:

I reread "Is This How You See Me?" today and I think it's like apex Jaime, and it hits so differently for me at the age I am now than it did when it was coming out. I also think it's Jaime at his warmest and at his most pitched fondness for the characters, god, it's perfect.

I think The Love Bunglers and Is This How You See Me perfectly complement each other while being masterpieces in their own right. I need to buy and read Tonta (Jaime has said that she is his new favorite character, which makes me wonder if ITHYSM was sort of him saying goodbye, for a while at least, to the old generation from Hoppers).

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I'm still binging Beto's side of things, so I temporarily skipped the Amor Y Cohetes volume that collects a lot of the unrelated odds and ends by all three brothers. I just finished the Luba and Her Family volume that was heavy on Fritz, Petra, and Venus. The Venus stories were delightful. They reminded me a lot of Peanuts, but with a dark undercurrent because we could actually see and hear the adults, and they were often up to no good in the background, while Venus was often oblivious. And then there was some of Beto's magical realism again, like the weird sequence with the creepy "Blooter Baby."

Even though L&R has always had steamy, sexy parts, this volume seemed heavier on the sexuality. I haven't read Birdland (and probably won't get a chance to), but it seems like Beto must have been going through a super-horny phase, with the insatiable Fritz and Petra and all their infidelities, Sergio and Pipo tempting everyone, Doralis' costumes for her "kids' show," and Fritz and Pipo getting heavier into corsetry in the fetish clubs. Just like so much of Claremont's work on Uncanny X-Men, I think the author's own kinks and fetishes were fully on display here. And I'm no prude -- Sex Criminals is one of my favorite comics -- but it just felt so different than the Palomar-based stories, even though they were often frank about sexuality too.

And don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying it. Unfortunately all I have left through Hoopla is the next volume, Ofelia, and then I have the Amor Y Cohetes compilation and one more Beto solo compilation. Hoopla doesn't have whatever the most recent collections are, including Jaime's Tonta.

I have to say, both Beto and Jaime draw gorgeous, sexy women. I used to think Jaime was definitely the better artist, but now I'm not so sure anymore. And I do appreciate how both of them write such strong, diverse, empowered female characters. I know that's one of the things L&R is most famous for, but these women are all so interesting, with so much agency -- and that includes sexual agency that you usually don't see in any genre or medium.

EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

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I've always felt that Jaime is the better cartoonist as his page layouts are very clean and flow very well, but that from an actual art point of view, Gilbert's work is better. I'd hang Gilbert art in my living room; I'd hang Jaime in my office. If you want to read Birdland though, let me know and I'll send my copies to you. I honestly kind of want them out of the house as I have a son that's getting really interested in comics and I've been having to hide and re-hide those.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:

Doralis' costumes for her "kids' show,"

While Beto is very horny on main, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that this is faithful to latin american kids variety shows from the 80's-90's.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Vincent posted:

While Beto is very horny on main, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that this is faithful to latin american kids variety shows from the 80's-90's.

Oh yeah, I'm from Miami and I remember Xuxa from back then, plus Sabado Gigante. None of the women looked like Doralis, though!

EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

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Vincent posted:

While Beto is very horny on main, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that this is faithful to latin american kids variety shows from the 80's-90's.

When I met him, his immediate answer to like EVERY question (comics, wrestling, punk rock) was "yeah but the BABES ARE WAY HOTTER NOW." It was in a pretty goofy and charming manner, so I can't really hate on the dude.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
I've never bought digital comics before, even though I've been reading digital comics for many years through Hoopla, which has saved me literally thousands of dollars from not buying books I wanted to read. However, it has probably cost me hundreds in introducing me to books I loved enough to want to own after reading them.

But Comixology currently has a ridiculous sale on Love and Rockets -- all the Library Editions for $1.99 or $0.99. I've read almost all of them on Hoopla over the past few years and fell in love with the characters and worlds Gilbert and Jaime Hernandez have created, to say nothing of their gorgeous artwork. But today I sprang for the one volume that isn't on Hoopla (Three Sisters), plus the Love and Rockets Companion: 30 Years and Counting -- a real bargain for $3.

https://www.comixology.com/Fantagraphics/list/39613

If anyone has ever been curious about Love and Rockets but been intimidated by the sheer volume of material and the weird ways they have been collected over the decades, now's your chance. Don't sleep on this sale, especially if you aren't overly concerned with owning everything in print.

Once again, the reading order for the Library Editions:

Maggie the Mechanic Vol. 1 (Jaime)
Heartbreak Soup Vol. 2 (Gilbert)
The Girl from H.O.P.P.E.R.S. Vol. 3 (Jaime)
Human Diastrophism Vol. 4 (Gilbert)
Perla La Loca Vol. 5 (Jaime)
Beyond Palomar Vol. 6 (Gilbert)
Amor Y Cohetes Vol. 7 (Gilbert, Mario, & Jaime -- stand-alone stories that aren't connected to everything else)
Penny Century Vol. 8 (Jaime)
Esperanza Vol. 9 (Jaime)
Luba and Her Family Vol. 10 (Gilbert)
Ofelia Vol. 11 (Gilbert)
Comics Dementia Vol. 12 (Gilbert -- stand-alone stories that aren't connected to everything else)
Angels & Magpies Vol. 13 (Jaime)
Three Sisters Vol. 14 (Gilbert)

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Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
A public television series called Artbound recently aired an episode about Love and Rockets. I can't watch it until I get home tonight, but it looks really cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYzqHRqRQU

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