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they're awesome facebook machines and that's only a bad thing if you give a poo poo what other people spend on, or do with, their laptops
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Ok Comboomer posted:
Thank you for attaching yourself and giving a soothing white noise response to every post I make in every forum here. Would you like me to CC you on all my email communications as well?
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May 25, 2020 03:37
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screamin and creamin posted:Thank you for attaching yourself and giving a soothing white noise response to every post I make in every forum here. Would you like me to CC you on all my email communications as well? Jesus, what? Haha I’m not following you around dude. I post on a freaking iPhone 99% of the time Ain’t my fault you post cringe
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May 25, 2020 03:40
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Ok Comboomer posted:Jesus, what? You can't even articulate what your mental issue with my post was. Am I not allowed to say that I had Windows laptops or what?
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screamin and creamin posted:You can't even articulate what your mental issue with my post was. Am I not allowed to say that I had Windows laptops or what? I thought it was funnily worded. The whole “I bought windows machines when I couldn’t afford the the right tier of Mac. They were decently specced (for windows) windows laptops” thing
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May 25, 2020 03:48
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I just did the same test on my entry level 13" Pro with 10 Safari tabs, bunch of PDFs open, a YouTube video playing, and dinking around with Finder. Also running Discord, and a second USB-C Monitor. Nothing is slow or hiccuping at all. Don't have a clue what people are talking about. These are very capable machines, and everything is still only using less than 6GB of RAM. Not top of the line, certainly, but that test is silly.
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May 25, 2020 03:54
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screamin and creamin posted:You can't even articulate what your mental issue with my post was. Am I not allowed to say that I had Windows laptops or what? Calm down, Francis.
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May 25, 2020 04:05
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They have SSD adapters to use an NVMe drive in 2016-17 nTB MacBook Pros https://www.ebay.com/itm/362953287166
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May 25, 2020 13:24
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Bob Morales posted:They have SSD adapters to use an NVMe drive in 2016-17 nTB MacBook Pros Wait, they're still using SATA drives in TYOOL 2020? HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA "Premium hardware"
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May 25, 2020 18:02
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Crunchy Black posted:Wait, they're still using SATA drives in TYOOL 2020? HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA No.
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May 25, 2020 18:08
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Crunchy Black posted:Wait, they're still using SATA drives in TYOOL 2020? HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA iMacs yes, all laptops no
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So all of the 2020 MacBook Air naysaying in this thread has gotten to me and I checked to see if my 2020 MBA was still returnable (Apple has extended return windows in light of COVID-19, mercifully) and it is. So now I'm faced with a dilemma of what I should replace it with, if anything. General purpose multitasking/work computing, with a tiny bit of Magic Arena in Bootcamp thrown in. If it helps, I really don't like fan noise and I appreciate a good display. Higher education pricing follows... Macbook Air 2020- $1179 (this is what I already have)
Macbook Pro 13" 2020 (2 port) - $1289 (+$110)
Macbook Pro 13" 2020 (4 port) - $1699 (+$520)
Macbook Pro 16" 2020 - $2199 (+$1020)
I know it's an annoying question, but as soon as I spec out the low-end MBP 13 I realize how close it is in price to the MBA I'm currently typing on, and then of course there's a good argument to hop from there to the  serious Pro 13" with 4 ports. The 16" is an obviously great machine but I don't think it's really for me because it's so expensive. Blah, I feel like I'm stuck a weird limbo space of Apple products.
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we talk about this on every page. Once you spec out your ideal machine the way you want it, the next step up is just so close, I might as well I mean otherwise it’s like leaving computing power on the table and then you end up with a $2900 16”.
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May 25, 2020 21:50
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This thread has largely bad opinions about the average user and their workload. Find a machine that you think will work for you. Buy it. Use it. See how it feels. There's a strong chance you won't be disappointed regardless of which model you decided to go with.
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i'm still not clear on the objection to the MBA; is it really going to throttle for your average microsoft office user?
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:i'm still not clear on the objection to the MBA; is it really going to throttle for your average microsoft office user?
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May 25, 2020 22:59
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i'm sure that it's slow for like, final cut, but that's the way mba's have always been. the question is whether it's meaningfully slower for day-to-day office work.
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May 25, 2020 23:32
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It's like, how did people get anything done with the old (2015) 13" MacBook Air? 128GB/4GB and the CPU was 4x slower 
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Bob Morales posted:It's like, how did people get anything done with the old (2015) 13" MacBook Air? 128GB/4GB and the CPU was 4x slower still using it albeit i have a bigger SSD + 8GB RAM. multiple big PSDs open all day, many chrome dev tabs, slack, youtube/spotify. It's slow but not super frustrating.
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Bob Morales posted:It's like, how did people get anything done with the old (2015) 13" MacBook Air? 128GB/4GB and the CPU was 4x slower Word processing didn't experience a four-to-eightfold increase in 3D rendering.  The i5 Air is double the Geekbench 5 and 150% the Cinebench R20 performance of the i5 3210m in my 2012 Mini. Not sure how one would calculate HD4000 vs Iris Plus 940, but the increase is probably significant.
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Bob Morales posted:It's like, how did people get anything done with the old (2015) 13" MacBook Air? 128GB/4GB and the CPU was 4x slower I still use a 11" 2013 MBA 4gb for some web development. But the 4gb is really limiting
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Crunchy Black posted:Wait, they're still using SATA drives in TYOOL 2020? HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA Incredibly unsure how it's possible to click that link and come away thinking it's a SATA adapter Binary Badger posted:iMacs yes, all laptops no iMacs kinda no? In that any factory SSD in iMacs (including the SSD half of a fusion drive) has been NVME (with a proprietary connector, because Apple) for ages. (I know you know this, just wanted to make sure it's clear to everyone that they're not using SATA for SSDs anywhere in their lineup) It is of course shameful ITYOOL 2020 that they're still doing stuff like charging $100 to upgrade the base 21" iMac from its 1TB HDD to 1TB fusion, and $200 to upgrade to a 256GB SSD. Base model should just be a 256 SSD. Probably costs them close to the same as a 1TB spinner, and approximately none of the people buying the cheapest no frills iMac with zero upgrades are likely to care about having 768GB less storage. Fusion should just go away, its time is past.
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do they actually have the HDD models in store, or are they online only? Like if i go to buy an iMac can I actually purchase the poverty spec model in person?
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BobHoward posted:Incredibly unsure how it's possible to click that link and come away thinking it's a SATA adapter Especially since the 2016-17 nTB rMBPs got benchmarked as having well above speeds achievable with plain SATA. quote:iMacs kinda no? In that any factory SSD in iMacs (including the SSD half of a fusion drive) has been NVME (with a proprietary connector, because Apple) for ages. (I know you know this, just wanted to make sure it's clear to everyone that they're not using SATA for SSDs anywhere in their lineup) This is definitely true, although you wonder why they're still selling computers with platter based storage also ITYOOL 2020. quote:Base model should just be a 256 SSD. Probably costs them close to the same as a 1TB spinner, and approximately none of the people buying the cheapest no frills iMac with zero upgrades are likely to care about having 768GB less storage. Fusion should just go away, its time is past. Fusion still exists probably because people would balk at paying Apple's prices for 1 TB SSDs.
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Happy Pizza Guy posted:So all of the 2020 MacBook Air naysaying in this thread has gotten to me and I checked to see if my 2020 MBA was still returnable (Apple has extended return windows in light of COVID-19, mercifully) and it is. So now I'm faced with a dilemma of what I should replace it with, if anything. General purpose multitasking/work computing, with a tiny bit of Magic Arena in Bootcamp thrown in. If it helps, I really don't like fan noise and I appreciate a good display. Higher education pricing follows... Are you regularly hearing the fan on your Air? If you aren't, then keep it. If you are, then get the 2TB3 13" MBP.
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May 26, 2020 03:20
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Lol WTF does MacOS just randomly drift audio balance? https://www.tunabellysoftware.com/balance_lock/
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Shaocaholica posted:Lol WTF does MacOS just randomly drift audio balance? Would love advice on a really high quality anti-glare screen protector, ideally one that doesn't degrade image quality or introduce the sparkle effect. I like to use my 2015 15" rMBP outside a lot and the glare is a killer. KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD fucked around with this message at 18:54 on May 26, 2020 |
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screamin and creamin posted:You can't even articulate what your mental issue with my post was. Am I not allowed to say that I had Windows laptops or what? Don't post like this.
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Shaocaholica posted:Lol WTF does MacOS just randomly drift audio balance? That seems insane. I'm guessing this is just someone confused that each audio device has it's own volume/balance settings? Don't take out your AirPods while watching porn if the laptop speakers are set to 100%.... Either that or its complete placebo aimed at golden cable audiophiles? Because poo poo, in the grifty world we live in, they are the juiciest target this side of right wing gofundmes
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They're not charging money for it though, I just checked the app store.
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Pakistani Brad Pitt posted:That seems insane. I'm guessing this is just someone confused that each audio device has it's own volume/balance settings? Don't take out your AirPods while watching porn if the laptop speakers are set to 100%.... You should check out AutoMute - I downloaded it after a YouTube video auto-played at the beginning of a lecture when I opened my MBP. You can set it to automatically mute your audio whenever it changes sources.
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so looking to get a laptop. either the air or pro, not really sure which, hence why i'm here. looking to run windows about 80% of the time. would mostly be remoting in to other machines, so the load on the machine would mostly be chrome, music, maybe some excel work here and there. i guess my biggest worry is portability and ease of use. i see that the air is only .3lb lighter than the mbp, so does it really feel lighter and more portable? the light up part of the keyboard on the pro seems more annoying than useful, so i don't care about that. so yea, that's where i'm at. i feel if i went air, it'd be worth getting the i5 or i7 and 16gb of ram, right? and reviews have said it's worth upgrading the mbp's processor as well if you go that route, so you're adding hundreds there too, so kind of a wash. in any case, hoping to futureproof it without going insane. i've also seen some discussion apple is moving to arm processors in their macs. is that worth holding off on either of these? i already have a thinkpad that's working fine. just really looking for something as portable as possible. ultimately i'll pay whatever for what gets me what's best, but obviously would rather spend less than more. thanks for any advice. abelwingnut fucked around with this message at 02:45 on May 27, 2020 |
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May 27, 2020 02:39
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honestly if i had to use windows 80% of the time I'd get a windows machine
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yea, i know it seems contradictory, but i do need to use os x at times. i don't have any mac, so this is meant to address that. plus, is there any pc-based machine remotely as well made or as portable or having as nice a screen as a mac? but yea, i pretty much have to go mac and dual boot and switch as needed.
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abelwingnut posted:so looking to get a laptop. either the air or pro, not really sure which, hence why i'm here. looking to run windows about 80% of the time. would mostly be remoting in to other machines, so the load on the machine would mostly be chrome, music, maybe some excel work here and there. i guess my biggest worry is portability and ease of use. i see that the air is only .3lb lighter than the mbp, so does it really feel lighter and more portable? the light up part of the keyboard on the pro seems more annoying than useful, so i don't care about that. You sound like you’d honestly be happiest with some flavor of four-port MBP. Maybe spend the minimum ($1800?) and stick with i5/16gb but otherwise seems like your best bet IMO.
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abelwingnut posted:so looking to get a laptop. either the air or pro, not really sure which, hence why i'm here. looking to run windows about 80% of the time. would mostly be remoting in to other machines, so the load on the machine would mostly be chrome, music, maybe some excel work here and there. i guess my biggest worry is portability and ease of use. i see that the air is only .3lb lighter than the mbp, so does it really feel lighter and more portable? the light up part of the keyboard on the pro seems more annoying than useful, so i don't care about that. If you’re running Windows 80% get something like a high end XPS? They’re real nice. Windows on Macs works but it’s not optimal, particularly managing thermal profiles, and there’s a lot of really nice Win 10 laptops on the market. I say this as the owner of a i9 16” - if my use case was Windows I wouldn’t buy a Mac. E: saw your response, but still if you’re only using Mac OS 20% of the time VM it...it’s not 2012 there’s a lot of really nice Windows laptops out with equal or better screens. Now Windows scaling isn’t as good imo, but that’s an OS issue and if you’re using Windows 80% either way... If you’re set on this get a MBP an Air isn’t going to do what you want I don’t think. I’m confused though if the machine is remoting in mostly why the need for Windows? I guess I don’t understand your use case. squirrelzipper fucked around with this message at 04:28 on May 27, 2020 |
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Yeah, competitor build quality has gotten a lot better. Unless you're dead set on dual-booting, need 2560 x 1600, or really good speakers, the following options are all lighter than the Air while having the 15/25 watt versions of 10th gen chips: Dell XPS 13 9300 HP Elite Dragonfly HP x360 Spectre Samsung Galaxy Book Flex (includes stylus) LG Gram 14, 15, and possibly the 17 (they only specify "<3lbs." for the latter) Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 04:34 on May 27, 2020 |
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The new surface laptops are pretty sexy as well if you like 3:2 screens.
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