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Asema posted:maybe it started as one but it's not now The back half of Season 4 has been all-timer after all-timer.
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# ? May 26, 2020 18:54 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 18:30 |
Can we not besmirch this thread with discussion of lesser shows.
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# ? May 26, 2020 19:26 |
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But we already discuss Tuca and Birdie.
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# ? May 26, 2020 19:35 |
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Venture Brothers, Frisky Dingo, Moral Oral... yeah you have Mr. Pickles and Assy McGee but you know, I'd rather take the bad with the good
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# ? May 27, 2020 04:29 |
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Asema posted:maybe it started as one but it's not now I disagree. Daikloktos posted:Venture Brothers, Frisky Dingo, Moral Oral... yeah you have Mr. Pickles and Assy McGee but you know, I'd rather take the bad with the good Adult swim also gives as weird poo poo like The Shivering truth and Too Many Cooks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8 I like Adult Swim, glad they're around, solid network that takes chances on weird poo poo.
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# ? May 27, 2020 04:55 |
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Daikloktos posted:Venture Brothers, Frisky Dingo, Moral Oral... yeah you have Mr. Pickles and Assy McGee but you know, I'd rather take the bad with the good I went back and watched Frisky Dingo again last year and holy poo poo that show holds up way better than I expected. Not a minute goes by without something hilarious happening. Solice Kirsk posted:But we already discuss Tuca and Birdie. Oh, good, I’m not the only one that thinks it kind of sucks compared to Bojack?
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# ? May 27, 2020 17:52 |
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yeah maybe i'm just tired of listening to chuds gaffaw about how great rick and morty is and that my issues with the show is because my feeble lady brain doesn't understand it and then unironically going around the "big iq" meme without ever saying it and not the fact that it's yet another "this person you are all cheering for and screaming is a golden god is a literal garbage human and the creators consistently go out of their way to showcase that they are horrible but each step just has more cheers erupt how can you just be so god drat brave"
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# ? May 27, 2020 18:30 |
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gonna go fight somebody over 1990 era mcdonald sauces brb
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# ? May 27, 2020 18:31 |
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Daikloktos posted:Venture Brothers, Frisky Dingo, Moral Oral... yeah you have Mr. Pickles and Assy McGee but you know, I'd rather take the bad with the good Who dares besmirch Assy McGee
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# ? May 27, 2020 18:41 |
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My biggest complaint with the final season, other than them not finding a real summative endcap to Mr. Peanutbutter's arc, is the stuff with Todd and his parents. That part of the episode in the back half felt incredibly rote and Jorge was completely sanded down. I loved his appearance in the first half on a character level but - well, for as much realistic consequence to this wacky animal world as the show deals in the one issue it always had to elide was race. It didn't want to pull that very obvious thread and so you're asked from early on to suspend your disbelief that there wouldn't be incredible tension in a world with hundreds of socially-constructible "races". When it's a gag like the "elephant in the room" bit or the Animal's Choice Awards it's one thing, but any time the plot started betraying that required suspension it jars.Kerrek posted:Who dares besmirch Assy McGee
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# ? May 28, 2020 04:25 |
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Asema posted:yeah maybe i'm just tired of listening to chuds gaffaw about how great rick and morty is and that my issues with the show is because my feeble lady brain doesn't understand it and then unironically going around the "big iq" meme without ever saying it and not the fact that it's yet another "this person you are all cheering for and screaming is a golden god is a literal garbage human and the creators consistently go out of their way to showcase that they are horrible but each step just has more cheers erupt how can you just be so god drat brave" ...why are you listening to CHUDs... at all? Look, there are problem a billion whiny Twitterinos who truly and completely believe Bojack Horseman is a misunderstood genius and a sympathetic anti-hero and use him and other examples to justify their depression-fueled substance abuse. I know for certain that these people would ostensibly appear to be on the same side as I am about many important social issues, but would actually be pure flaming dogshit to speak with or spend any time with. I love this show more than I have ever loved any other show in my life, but my experience with the Bojack fanbase outside of literally just this thread is 100% wishy washy drama queens who all try to excuse their anti-social and rude behaviors with "I'm a Scorpio and that's just the way it is!" type bullshit. You don't ever have to let the fans of a piece of media dictate how you consume or experience something. Hell, if you're a genius, you don't even have to let the creator dictate that!
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# ? May 28, 2020 04:37 |
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Bust Rodd posted:...why are you listening to CHUDs... at all? because they are the loudest and the very much majority in a lot of gaming spheres and it's absolutely exhausting to deal with
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# ? May 28, 2020 04:47 |
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It’s not just terrible fans, Rick and Morty always felt to me like it was trying to have its cake and eat it with the whole “protagonist is supposed to be an rear end in a top hat, you’re not meant to like him” thing. Rick is a despicable sack of poo poo, but he’s also an unstoppable badass mega genius who can do anything and defeat anyone, and he’s surrounded by morons who he owns effortlessly. Compare that to someone like BoJack or Rusty Venture, who aren’t just assholes but flat-out pathetic losers who fail constantly.
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# ? May 28, 2020 14:29 |
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What cake are they trying to eat exactly? “Mean people can be smart and capable sometimes?” The assertion that Rick & Morty is some bizarre reality play attempting to moralize Rick through science seems like the same energy as post-Millenial readings of Fight Club being a manual for fascism. A character within a story behaving as themselves is not the same as the writer’s pushing an agenda.
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# ? May 28, 2020 15:11 |
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I think in Rick and Morty, it completely varies by episode (and writer) whether Rick is meant to be a laudable figure or not. Occasionally he's the mouthpiece for an idea that's clearly "with" the writer, like "this genre cliche is dumb and I hate it, let's have Rick razz on it", but that's usually undermined by Rick doing something petty and horrible that graduates his criticism into spite. In other episodes he's just very clearly an abusive, evil figure who's taking out his own insecurities on the people around him - the show is just generally cynical enough that it doesn't feel the need to write in a "hero" who's capable of stopping Rick from indulging his id. In its universe, there's no moral arbiter that can make sure this monster gets his just deserts, because its universe is an essentially depraved, pessimistic place ruled by self-interest and venality. I think the latter part is what really turns some people off from the show - Rick never getting punished for his wrongdoing is just a side-effect of the show's general nihilism.
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# ? May 28, 2020 17:24 |
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Which, to be clear, even though Rick and Morty's nihilism is "more realistic" than a Luke Skywalker or a Harry Potter arising from the ashes to enact vengeance upon an evil dude like Rick against the odds - and that's part of the appeal, that it forgoes the simple Manichean take on good vs. evil where good ultimately prevails - it is still a pretty self-indulgent thematic mode. In Rick and Morty's worldview, there really is no room for genuine heroism whatsoever. Anyone who appears benevolent is actually a vacuous charlatan or evil themselves, nearly 100% of the time. The only benevolence that occurs is by the whim of free-wheeling monsters like Rick, doing a good deed because it seems like an entertaining diversion for a moment. And there's definitely a sense that the show enjoys this cynicism - that some element of the creative crew is into the idea that only bad people can do good things, and that no truly good people exist. So yeah, while I think it's a good show, these are all valid reasons for someone to think it's too cynical or too edgy.
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# ? May 28, 2020 17:35 |
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Rick and Morty kind of started bad, it's gotten better, media can be not for everyone. Assigning media objective goodness values, for the most part, is pretty poo poo. Not only are you giving alt righters enough respect to take their media opinions seriously and consider them first, it's downplaying what they are truly poo poo for (wanting to live in a dictatorship so they can have everyone they don't like genocided because that's what they think they deserve) into "they just don't like the same cartoons I do"
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# ? May 29, 2020 12:57 |
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Yeah I mean as someone who games constantly unless you mean it’s happening at your local game store just don’t go to places like reddit or 4chan or Resetera where CHUDS coagulate to bitch about video games. It’s very easy to avoid them by simply avoiding those garbage spaces in the first place. You aren’t missing out on important discourse, you’re saving yourself the hassle of interacting with idiots.
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# ? May 29, 2020 13:02 |
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Bust Rodd posted:It’s very easy to avoid them by simply avoiding those garbage spaces in the first place. For you maybe because I would like to use voice chat in games that have a slight need for it without immediately listening to the gamers fulfil toxic fantasies of telling me to suck their dick or going through the entire loop of "oh great we're going to lose because we've got a girl on the team" like I'm sorry I can't ignore those gamer chuds like you loving experts can apparently.
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# ? May 29, 2020 13:50 |
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Lmao stop playing DOTA and Overwatch and your general quality of life will literally skyrocket For real, multiplayer games with strangers aren’t fun, absolutely not worth the frustration Also every game in 2020 has a mute function, if someone is slurring you or talking about Rick & Morty they are a safe mute you aren’t missing out their 1337 call outs Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 14:00 on May 29, 2020 |
# ? May 29, 2020 13:57 |
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I don't play those two, try again.
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:00 |
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Turn off voice chat if you aren't explicitly talking with friends or a regular group you interact with regularly. Rando chuds screaming obscenities are poo poo tier scrubs with nothing to offer and there is not a single game on the planet that is improved by unmuting them.
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:03 |
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My pro tactic is not playing games with voice chat grew up with chud parents, only now doing the work to reprogram myself and recognize the trauma they put on me, do not wamt any more brain cells with chud voice clips or connections Liking animal crossing more than i thought i would, half of it is bevause reyneigh was a starting villager. She's kind of like hollyhock without all the sadness, feasible headcanon that this is where she went to ghost bojack.
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:03 |
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Hollyhock ghosting Bojack is far and away the emotional climax of the series, IMO
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:06 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Turn off voice chat if you aren't explicitly talking with friends or a regular group you interact with regularly. Rando chuds screaming obscenities are poo poo tier scrubs with nothing to offer and there is not a single game on the planet that is improved by unmuting them. I already do this. And again I want to point out that this is a really dumb and bad band-aid for a very big problem but whatever, I don't want to engage with this conversation any longer so sure whatever you guys say.
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:07 |
Bust Rodd posted:Lmao stop playing DOTA and Overwatch and your general quality of life will literally skyrocket Don't you see that all this is putting the burden on the person being harassed to have to adjust their behaviour? You might think you're helping here but you're extremely not. "when I do x, I get harassed" "oh stop doing x then even if you enjoy it"
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:33 |
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I'm sorry that I don't have the solution to online gaming being a cesspit, but I am a FIRM believer in curating your online experience as best you can to protect yourself. You literally cannot control what racists and homophobes do in their free time, but you actively insulate yourself from their shittiness while playing, and more and more games are giving you the tools to do that. Not every developer is as responsive and sympathetic as should be to their reporting system, and even then the only to ensure you don't here them call you a slur is to proactively protect yourself. I've been gaming my entire life, and I'm bi, so hearing people call me the f slur really sucked and those are the steps I took to protect myself. Same thing here on SA, I love the Ignore feature, I love blocking people on Twitter and muting entire words or phrases that upset me. It's okay to want to feel safe! Use the tools that exist while you continue to ask for more! I'm not making excuses for gaming housing a terrible fan base, but I also literally can't do anything about it either.
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:42 |
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When should we expect a prequel spin-off and an epilogue movie?
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# ? May 29, 2020 14:47 |
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Osmosisch posted:Don't you see that all this is putting the burden on the person being harassed to have to adjust their behaviour? You might think you're helping here but you're extremely not. you get used to this and after awhile it stops mattering if the "this never happens" comes from a CHUD or "just don't engage in it" comes from a left-leaning "ally" I'm sorry I brought this up over the Pickle show.
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# ? May 29, 2020 16:26 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Hollyhock ghosting Bojack is far and away the emotional climax of the series, IMO Didn’t she explicitly tell him in the letter that she didn’t want him in her life and why, we just never got to hear the contents? Kind of the opposite of ghosting.
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# ? May 29, 2020 17:41 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-T2Ra-bWIc
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# ? May 29, 2020 19:02 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Didn’t she explicitly tell him in the letter that she didn’t want him in her life and why, we just never got to hear the contents? Kind of the opposite of ghosting. We have no clue what was in the letter TBH
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# ? May 29, 2020 20:01 |
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i pirated the post metoo louis ck special and it had a very gross and dark bojack energy to it. like you could have will arnett read the jokes and an artist trace bojack over louie and it would feel like the horrible post series special you never wanted. uuugh Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 22:01 on May 29, 2020 |
# ? May 29, 2020 21:57 |
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It was two pages, and I'm torn to imagine that's where the second-half's "gently caress" landed (even though they probably just didn't get a second one)
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# ? May 29, 2020 22:36 |
I thought the second “gently caress” was during the scene where Bojack’s trying to get takeout after the second interview comes out.
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# ? May 29, 2020 22:46 |
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Iron Crowned posted:We have no clue what was in the letter TBH True, but what makes the most sense is that Bojack’s fear was correct and she was cutting him out of her life forever in no uncertain terms. “Ghosting” implies she’s keeping Bojack on some back burner in case she decides to reconnect with him later, which doesn’t seem like something Hollyhock would ever do. That feels like something Hollywoo people do: never burning a bridge in case it’s useful to cross it later. Which is a recurring thought in the show, that people keep giving him chances and enabling him because of his fame and wealth. They never know when a Secretariat or Philbert or Horny Unicorn will come around and render him useful again. Hollyhock’s rejection of him carries the most weight because she’s a purely personal connection. She has no interest in the material benefits of his friendship, so when he’s out, he’s OUT.
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# ? May 29, 2020 23:44 |
Yayyy, but also, aw dang, animation downgrade confirmed.
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# ? May 31, 2020 07:02 |
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Lurdiak posted:Yayyy, but also, aw dang, animation downgrade confirmed. So, I think you're being sarcastic, but just for the benefit of people who might take it seriously: this is clearly something that was whipped in quarantine quickly and not an indication of the kind of quality of season 2 of the show.
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# ? May 31, 2020 07:59 |
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Can we get a thread title change to include Tuca and Bertie? Unless that show gets its own thread which I don't think it did before.
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# ? May 31, 2020 08:01 |
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Yikes...well, good luck Tuca and Bertie fans because that looks terrible.
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# ? May 31, 2020 21:33 |