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If he had done his job they would know where all the founders are
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Do the right thing and volunteer to take a pay cut so they can hire good writers. Hey, I'm a fan too, and after hearing what the fans have said and going back through the proud history of Star Trek, I'm ready to take this franchise where it needs to go: Hard Men Making Hard Choices in Space 2020s America, but in episodic format!
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May 27, 2020 19:38
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Both Dorn and Christopher Judge have been wanting to do spinoffs focused on their characters for decades now, so I propose we make them space buddy cops, and peel off some of that NCIS viewership
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May 27, 2020 19:39
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John Wick of Dogs posted:If he had done his job they would know where all the founders are But it isn't like that would have made much of a difference. What were they going to do if they did? They couldn't possibly blockaded the planet and fended off the Dominion on their home turf. They wouldn't bombard the planet because they did try to stop the Federation's own attempt to destroy the Founders.
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May 27, 2020 19:44
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Eighties ZomCom posted:There was that episode where Kheylar first shows up, where a bunch of Klingons wake up from suspended animation and are going to go attack Federation outposts if the Enterprise don't stop them. "Samaritan Snare" is another ep that showed that Worf isn't just the "let's shoot them" guy, he totally had the Pakleds figured out before anyone else did and if Riker had listened to him there literally wouldn't have been an episode. If anything being the tactical/security officer is doing him a disservice, he's more perceptive and clever than any old jamoke who could aim the guns and (get) beat up (by) the monster of the week.
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May 27, 2020 19:48
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Sash! posted:But it isn't like that would have made much of a difference. What were they going to do if they did? They couldn't possibly blockaded the planet and fended off the Dominion on their home turf. They wouldn't bombard the planet because they did try to stop the Federation's own attempt to destroy the Founders. bombarding from orbit: cowardly, dishonorable beaming down to the planet and fighting the Founders one-on-one with bladed sporks: noble, honorable
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May 27, 2020 19:49
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Sash! posted:But it isn't like that would have made much of a difference. What were they going to do if they did? They couldn't possibly blockaded the planet and fended off the Dominion on their home turf. They wouldn't bombard the planet because they did try to stop the Federation's own attempt to destroy the Founders. The intel was about all the founders in the Alpha Quadrant and what shenanigans they were up to.
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May 27, 2020 19:51
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Sash! posted:But it isn't like that would have made much of a difference. What were they going to do if they did? They couldn't possibly blockaded the planet and fended off the Dominion on their home turf. They wouldn't bombard the planet because they did try to stop the Federation's own attempt to destroy the Founders. I assume a lot of the founders locations would have been within the federation itself
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May 27, 2020 19:51
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Worf on DS9 is so much improved over Worf on TNG. Whether due to budgets or what TNG relied on the idea that this one dude is not an Odo-like head of security but is all of security. It would make sense if the Enterprise was a warship but as a Space Cadillac the ship could really use the kind of nameless security guys Odo worked with.
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May 27, 2020 19:52
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Tunicate posted:Both Dorn and Christopher Judge have been wanting to do spinoffs focused on their characters for decades now, so I propose we make them space buddy cops, and peel off some of that NCIS viewership Just put them both on The Orville as thinly-veiled Moclan versions of their characters.
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May 27, 2020 19:58
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Craptacular! posted:Worf on DS9 is so much improved over Worf on TNG. Whether due to budgets or what TNG relied on the idea that this one dude is not an Odo-like head of security but is all of security. Not to mention that he was both head of security and tactical bridge officer, which makes no sense.
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May 27, 2020 20:03
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MikeJF posted:Not to mention that he was both head of security and tactical bridge officer, which makes no sense. Yeah they wanted the ship to be huge but also every job done by a handful of people.
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May 27, 2020 20:05
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Tunicate posted:Both Dorn and Christopher Judge have been wanting to do spinoffs focused on their characters for decades now, so I propose we make them space buddy cops, and peel off some of that NCIS viewership I've been saying for years that Dorn and Judge need to guest star on The Orville, as Bortus's fathers.
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May 27, 2020 20:06
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Powered Descent posted:I've been saying for years that Dorn and Judge need to guest star on The Orville, as Bortus's fathers. So far all the Trek cameos on that show have been pretty great (Picardo, Sirtis, Tim Russ, Ethan Philips, and of course Penny Jerald in a starring role) so IMO that would be amazing.
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May 27, 2020 20:26
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socialsecurity posted:Yeah they wanted the ship to be huge but also every job done by a handful of people. You would think that there would be a department head devoted to all the scientific research going on on the Enterprise, and that the role would be one of the senior staff, but that was never the case. Hell, there should probably be an entire diplomacy department too, but that seemed to just be Troi's side gig (along with "part time interrogation officer").
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May 27, 2020 21:21
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Wasn't Data chief science officer?
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May 27, 2020 21:30
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Epicurius posted:Wasn't Data chief science officer? He was "operations" because everyone recognized that Data was competent enough to be worth adding to any project, but not reliable enough* to be given control over any particular part of the ship or its crew *Because it's easier to tell when an organic crew member has been subject to mind control, replaced with their evil twin, coerced into treason, etc. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 27, 2020 |
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May 27, 2020 21:34
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Watching through TNG with full knowledge of the "they never take Worf's advice" meme is arguably the best way to do it. We just saw Time's Arrow, and I lol'd when Picard literally sent a message 500 years into the future just to contradict Worf
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May 27, 2020 21:41
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Civilized Fishbot posted:He was "operations" because everyone recognized that Data was competent enough to be worth adding to any project, but not reliable enough* to be given control over any particular part of the ship or its crew Didnt they make up the ops role for Data pretty much solely to get him in a yellow uniform? Something about the gold skin paint looking real poo poo alongside a blue uniform. Might be production hearsay or something dumb that I either read on a Trek forum in 1999 / just made up while drunk one day.
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May 27, 2020 22:03
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Drone posted:Didnt they make up the ops role for Data pretty much solely to get him in a yellow uniform? Something about the gold skin paint looking real poo poo alongside a blue uniform. IMDB says yes, so it must be true quote:Originally, Data was going to be the Chief Science Officer on the Enterprise (like Spock was on Star Trek: The Original Series (1966)) and wear a blue uniform. However, the color blue clashed with the android make-up, and the idea was changed. Data was reassigned as the Chief Operations Officer and sported a gold uniform for all seven seasons (except for two episodes, which were; season four, episode eight, "Future Imperfect", in which we see him on the bridge as the First Officer in the possible future scenario, and season six, episodes ten and eleven, "Chain of Command" in which he's promoted to First Officer, and wears a red tunic).
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May 27, 2020 22:14
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Drone posted:Didnt they make up the ops role for Data pretty much solely to get him in a yellow uniform? Something about the gold skin paint looking real poo poo alongside a blue uniform. Yes, they went through a ton of screen tests with Spiner's makeup and decided that there was no way to make it look good outside of the gold uniform.
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May 27, 2020 22:20
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Tunicate posted:Both Dorn and Christopher Judge have been wanting to do spinoffs focused on their characters for decades now, so I propose we make them space buddy cops, and peel off some of that NCIS viewership I want The Three Musketeers, but with the Dahar Masters.
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May 27, 2020 22:47
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Powered Descent posted:I've been saying for years that Dorn and Judge need to guest star on The Orville, as Bortus's fathers. Snow Cone Capone posted:So far all the Trek cameos on that show have been pretty great (Picardo, Sirtis, Tim Russ, Ethan Philips, and of course Penny Jerald in a starring role) so IMO that would be amazing. I've loved this idea as soon as I heard it and am intensely jealous that I didn't think of it first.
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May 27, 2020 23:14
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McSpanky posted:I've loved this idea as soon as I heard it and am intensely jealous that I didn't think of it first. Klyden decides to present as her birth gender, and her dads show up. Or both sets of fathers, who else can we get in on this ? JG Hetzler is probably available...
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May 27, 2020 23:32
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mllaneza posted:Klyden decides to present as her birth gender, and her dads show up. Or both sets of fathers, who else can we get in on this ? JG Hetzler is probably available... Klyden would kill himself before doing that tho, it'd have to be Bortus somehow. Or bring back the Moclan who fell in love with Talla, that dude got a super-raw deal 
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May 27, 2020 23:33
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Watching DS9 for the first time, reached S1E5: 'Babel', and Quark trying to stay open during a pandemic and quarantine is especially hilarious and sad in the current context.
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May 28, 2020 01:30
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Gully Foyle posted:Watching DS9 for the first time, reached S1E5: 'Babel', and Quark trying to stay open during a pandemic and quarantine is especially hilarious and sad in the current context. My latinum >>> your moogie
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May 28, 2020 01:38
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I don’t think Data looks that bad in blue tbh. Frakes and Stewart look awful in mustard though, we dodged a bullet there. 
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May 28, 2020 01:39
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I don’t think Data looks that bad in blue tbh. Frakes and Stewart look awful in mustard though, we dodged a bullet there. This is so weird This shoulda been an alternate universe in an episode, I'd have been so unnerved the whole time
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May 28, 2020 01:39
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I don’t think Data looks that bad in blue tbh. Frakes and Stewart look awful in mustard though, we dodged a bullet there. Keep in mind this is a photo and not NTSC with video color grading.
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May 28, 2020 01:45
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My shock is that Wesley is apparently a commissioned ensign in preproduction
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May 28, 2020 01:47
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The Bloop posted:My shock is that Wesley is apparently a commissioned ensign in preproduction Psst, Guinan is in that photo and so is Beverly so it has to be at least at least a season 3 photo.
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May 28, 2020 01:51
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bull3964 posted:Psst, Guinan is in that photo and so is Beverly so it has to be at least at least a season 3 photo. That's true. Is it just a Photoshop then? Bamboozled again!
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May 28, 2020 01:57
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The Bloop posted:That's true. Is it just a Photoshop then? Yeah, just some photoshop I found.
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May 28, 2020 02:53
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bull3964 posted:Keep in mind this is a photo and not NTSC with video color grading. Also that a blue uniform IRL would reflect on his whitish-gold makeup, probably in a weird and offputting way. Big Mean Jerk posted:Yeah, just some photoshop I found. I wonder if anyone did one with the TOS cast in TNG colors.
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May 28, 2020 03:12
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At least the colors themselves on TNG were consistent. DS9 couldn’t decide between blue/aqua or grey/purple and it drives me crazy.
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CubanMissile posted:At least the colors themselves on TNG were consistent. DS9 couldn’t decide between blue/aqua or grey/purple and it drives me crazy. Oh rly? http://www.startrekcostumeguide.com/p/tng-jumpsuit-analysis-misc-6-continuity.html
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May 28, 2020 03:26
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McSpanky posted:Also that a blue uniform IRL would reflect on his whitish-gold makeup, probably in a weird and offputting way. I'm convinced I've seen it before but in my efforts to find it I keep coming across things that trigger me DEEPLY   
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May 28, 2020 03:27
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bull3964 posted:Oh rly? Thanks you've just made my life worse.
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Brawnfire posted:I'm convinced I've seen it before but in my efforts to find it I keep coming across things that trigger me DEEPLY These all look fine I mean that catsuit shouldn't be a duty uniform for anyone, but it looks fine
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