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We really don't know exactly HOW Potara work. I mean, originally it was going to be permanent, and Elder Kai stayed fused after removing his. They retconned it into only being permanent for Kaioshin, and from there we haven't really seen any absolutely unassailable evidence for defusion methods other than time/power drain and wishes. We see Goku Black's earring get cracked, but that never feeds into anything. We see Kefla unfused when Kale and Caulifla land in the stands, but despite the earrings breaking we can't be sure that wasn't due to other reasons, like the teleportation to the stands undoing it, or her power running out at that point. The earrings breaking could just be intended to tell us "and we're taking these out of the equation too". Now, yeah, it probably WAS supposed to be "the Potara broke so the fusion failed", but I'm just saying that it's not absolutely, 100% definitive, so it's hard to argue one way or the other for sure.
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Burkion posted:Let's be super honest, only Kale was pulling her weight power wise. Kefla is basically Cauli's personality married to Kale's muscle. All she needs to unlock her true power is to break into a musical number.
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May 23, 2020 02:50
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Kurui Reiten posted:We really don't know exactly HOW Potara work. I mean, originally it was going to be permanent, and Elder Kai stayed fused after removing his. They retconned it into only being permanent for Kaioshin, and from there we haven't really seen any absolutely unassailable evidence for defusion methods other than time/power drain and wishes. Yeah, exactly. They left things ambiguous so they can continue to use whatever rules they want for Potara. When's Heroes going to introduce the dance version of Kale + Caulifla? I guess it'd be... Ka-ri-fu-ra + Ke-ru Kariru? Anyway, at least in the anime, I don't think -Sign- is supposed to be significantly stronger attack-wise than regular SSB, so I still don't see Goku beating Kefla 1v1 in a regular, non-tournament fight if he can't activate MUI.
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May 23, 2020 02:53
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I figured the fusion broke because they used up all their time by expending so much energy, and the breaking of the earring was just a way of showing they were spent anyway. The blast Goku did was kind of weird since it seemed more like it just pushed her away instead of actually hurting her.
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May 23, 2020 03:14
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I mean I know expecting consistency in Dragonball and all but Vegito's earings didn't break when he ran out of power. I don't think there's anything indicating they are one-use-only.
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May 23, 2020 03:25
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I meant the blast broke them when they were in the middle of unfusing anyway.
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May 23, 2020 03:52
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Momomo posted:I meant the blast broke them when they were in the middle of unfusing anyway. No it doesn't. Goku knocks Kefla off -> The earring shatters and then we see Kefka teleported back -> it's Caulifla and Kale who actually appear back in the stands. Like there's absolutely no reason to assume that the earring being shattered isn't the reason for Kefla's defusing.
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May 23, 2020 04:06
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It's because it looked dramatic.
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May 23, 2020 07:34
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The earring breaking was dramatic shorthand for Goku completely overwhelming and beating Kefla
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May 23, 2020 17:55
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The potara breaking isn’t so dramatic considering Vegeta crunched one in his hand pretty easily.
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May 23, 2020 18:24
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Kurui Reiten posted:We see Goku Black's earring get cracked I'm still mad nothing came of that.
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May 23, 2020 19:29
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TheHan posted:The potara breaking isn’t so dramatic considering Vegeta crunched one in his hand pretty easily. It's symbolic in that both cases say fusion isn't an option for them anymore. Course they got eliminated and it's technically a moot point, but the point was made that Goku soundly beat her.
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May 24, 2020 03:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqJzR6rDBQM This Fighterz Goku UI raid video popped in my recommended and at around the 16:40 mark it has a moment that is straight out of the anime like holy poo poo 
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May 24, 2020 05:08
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lezard_valeth posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqJzR6rDBQM jesus goddamn christ these dudes had me cracking up
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May 24, 2020 08:04
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I had the wildest thought to beat Moro. What are the odds of Goku telling Vegeta to get on his shoulders? Goku will auto dodge everything Moro has, while Vegeta attacks.
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Darth TNT posted:I had the wildest thought to beat Moro. What are the odds of Goku telling Vegeta to get on his shoulders? Goku will auto dodge everything Moro has, while Vegeta attacks. Vegeta tries to get on Goku's shoulders for their winning strategy, but Ultra Instinct considers it an attack so he instantly dodges Vegeta, causing him to fall on his rear end.
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May 27, 2020 13:32
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I'm surprised they didnt atleast try the Yakon strategy
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May 27, 2020 13:39
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Darth TNT posted:I had the wildest thought to beat Moro. What are the odds of Goku telling Vegeta to get on his shoulders? Goku will auto dodge everything Moro has, while Vegeta attacks. This but Goku has Vegeta in a little baby carrier.
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May 27, 2020 14:05
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MECHA-SHIVA
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May 27, 2020 16:34
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They probably would have legit tried that in Dragon Ball.
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May 27, 2020 17:32
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dr.acula posted:I'm surprised they didnt atleast try the Yakon strategy Moro eats planets and seems to have no limit on how much he can consume. Or, at the very least, he's not as dumb as Yakon.
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May 27, 2020 17:55
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Babe Magnet posted:MECHA-SHIVA The Invincible Bota-Magetta 
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May 27, 2020 19:19
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Moro eats planets and seems to have no limit on how much he can consume. Or, at the very least, he's not as dumb as Yakon. Ah but Goku probably is, looking at the Goku vs. Super 17 fight.
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May 27, 2020 19:56
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TheHan posted:The Invincible Bota-Magetta Why did they ever break this formation? It was actually working out really well for them. dr.acula posted:Ah but Goku probably is, looking at the Goku vs. Super 17 fight. Possibly. 
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May 27, 2020 20:42
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TheHan posted:The Invincible Bota-Magetta Wasn't Botamo supposed to be the one on the bottom, since he's the one who can absorb all physical damage?
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amigolupus posted:Wasn't Botamo supposed to be the one on the bottom, since he's the one who can absorb all physical damage? No because bota can be thrown and dragged but if he's sitting on top of magetta he becomes a pair of industructable ear plugs. Magettas only weakness is hearing an insult
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May 27, 2020 23:25
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Why did they ever break this formation? It was actually working out really well for them. They got separated when Kale went Broly and started nuking the arena, from memory.
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May 28, 2020 00:26
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The series should have ended at the same point TFS stopped making parody episodes.
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May 28, 2020 03:30
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biracial bear for uncut posted:The series should have ended at the same point TFS stopped making parody episodes. nah
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May 28, 2020 03:47
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Gohan has never really ever been written as terribly interesting, and I can understand why Toriyama went back to Goku after a while of writing him.
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May 28, 2020 04:11
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biracial bear for uncut posted:The series should have ended at the same point TFS stopped making parody episodes. No because that implies that the show should have ended before the Great Saiyaman arc, a.k.a. the best arc in the series.
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May 28, 2020 05:12
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Gohan has never really ever been written as terribly interesting, and I can understand why Toriyama went back to Goku after a while of writing him. The Great Saiyaman rules and a character who doesn't really like fighting but has to to protect those close to him amongst a bunch of meatheads who just like punching for punching's sake is an interesting character, even if Toriyama doesn't really know how to let that drive his story
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May 28, 2020 05:18
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Also I'd rather not have the series end on Cell.
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May 28, 2020 05:19
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I think having Cell be a part of the universal tournament would have been baller
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May 28, 2020 05:42
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Homora Gaykemi posted:The Great Saiyaman rules and a character who doesn't really like fighting but has to to protect those close to him amongst a bunch of meatheads who just like punching for punching's sake is an interesting character, even if Toriyama doesn't really know how to let that drive his story Okay, the Great Saiyaman is great, but I still stand by the notion that Toriyama (and Toei for that matter) not knowing what to do with Gohan has really dragged down his potential.
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It should have been Resurrection C. Cell is back and the whole saga could involve Gohan having to beat him again and get over his inner feelings while Goku and Vegeta are training with Whis unaware. Then Blue could premier during the Universe 6 tourney. Then during the ToP Gohan wouldn't need to be rushed to be powerful again and then Frieza could be asked for help.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Okay, the Great Saiyaman is great, but I still stand by the notion that Toriyama (and Toei for that matter) not knowing what to do with Gohan has really dragged down his potential. i dunno, gohan was fine up until the end of the buu saga and then he stopped writing gohan that way. its not like tried to make gohan interesting and failed, he just stopped altogether
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Eh, Cell is an idea that works fine exactly once. If you're going to retread that whole thing again, you might as well bring Android 21 into canon.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:you might as well bring Android 21 into canon. a) if that means resurrecting my sweet son C16 as well then sure b) all for it as long as she steps on my throat
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Look I don't care how you do it bring android 16 back. You can bullshit Bulma making a new version and recovering his brain chip or some poo poo. Also yes canon 21 please
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