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Jonny Nox posted:Yes, all the cost of a boat combined with all the cost of a plane. Let me have my cool jerkoff fantasy of island hopping around the caribbean with some hot ladyfriends in my cool planeyacht, drat it
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Spaced God posted:The only acceptable lottery plane answer is a Catalina tricked out to be an air yacht thank you very much Well yeah, that's always been my plan if I won more than 100 million dollars. You'd first have to find one in great shape and completely restore it, replace all the corroded frame pieces, etc. Then you wouldn't want to fly around the world on WW2 radials (or deal with finding 150-octane avgas wherever you went), so you'd have to convert it to twin turboprop to actually use it as intended. After the conversion it would be an experimental-certificate aircraft, and that means you can't fly it over populated areas or into class B airspace or a bunch of other places without specific written permission. So you'd also have to pay to get it tested and certificated as an STP conversion. And then you've just got the basic costs of building the interior into a yacht, and the ongoing cost of running a twin-engine flying boat on the general scale of a Dash-8, and so on...all together I don't think you could realistically do it for under 100 million. Under 100 million a ready-to-go family-sized single-engine turboprop like a TBM is ideal. About 80% of the performance of a business jet but infinitely more practical.
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Sagebrush posted:Well yeah, that's always been my plan if I won more than 100 million dollars. You'd first have to find one in great shape and completely restore it, replace all the corroded frame pieces, etc. Then you wouldn't want to fly around the world on WW2 radials (or deal with finding 150-octane avgas wherever you went), so you'd have to convert it to twin turboprop to actually use it as intended. After the conversion it would be an experimental-certificate aircraft, and that means you can't fly it over populated areas or into class B airspace or a bunch of other places without specific written permission. So you'd also have to pay to get it tested and certificated as an STP conversion. And then you've just got the basic costs of building the interior into a yacht, and the ongoing cost of running a twin-engine flying boat on the general scale of a Dash-8, and so on...all together I don't think you could realistically do it for under 100 million. Yeah but can you get floats for a TBM?
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Has anyone turned a CL-215 or 415 into a flying yacht or are they all firebombers?
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meltie posted:Yeah but can you get floats for a TBM? You kinda gotta decide between speed or floats. Can't have both*. You really don't wanna try flying cross-country at Catalina speeds in anything smaller than a Catalina luxury yacht if you can help it. If I wasn't able to afford the aforementioned Catalina conversion, I'd personally probably get a TBM and also something like a 170 on floats to buzz around all the teeny lakes and go camping. *I will NOT be reading any posts mentioning the XF2Y-1
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Sagebrush posted:After the conversion it would be an experimental-certificate aircraft, and that means you can't fly it over populated areas or into class B airspace or a bunch of other places without specific written permission. I’ve been looking at experimental kits for a while now, and this is the first I’ve heard of these restrictions. Google isn’t helping. Can you provide a citation?
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Loucks posted:I’ve been looking at experimental kits for a while now, and this is the first I’ve heard of these restrictions. Google isn’t helping. Can you provide a citation? 14 CFR 91.319 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/91.319 You obviously cannot fly an experimental aircraft for hire, so a lot of it is just about commercial restrictions, but these are the big ones that restrict even personal use: quote:... I don't know enough about kit planes to say whether the more common models might have automatic exemptions to let you fly over cities, or something. Maybe? I see quite a few RVs out here in San Francisco but they do mostly stay out by the coast and seem to operate mostly from untowered fields. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 00:51 on May 30, 2020 |
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Do all radials require 100/150 grade fuel? If not, a Grumman HU-16 would be a gorgeous flying yacht.
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FuturePastNow posted:Has anyone turned a CL-215 or 415 into a flying yacht or are they all firebombers? The last time Flying/Floating Yachts came up, I suggested it might be a good idea to ask Japan if they would build you a US-2
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Loucks posted:I’ve been looking at experimental kits for a while now, and this is the first I’ve heard of these restrictions. Google isn’t helping. Can you provide a citation? Yes, but I don't see how that helps with your regulatory inquiries. 
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MRC48B posted:The last time Flying/Floating Yachts came up, I suggested it might be a good idea to ask Japan if they would build you a US-2 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:get them to build another Do.24T  Alternately:  Safety Dance posted:Do all radials require 100/150 grade fuel? If not, a Grumman HU-16 would be a gorgeous flying yacht. The most common ones (R2800, R1340, etc) were originally certified on up to 115/145, but you can run them on 100LL just fine at lower power settings. Also, you want a G-111. It’s an HU-16 converted to standard category for Chalks, so you can fly them for hire. They converted 13 of them. MrYenko fucked around with this message at 01:20 on May 30, 2020 |
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Spaced God posted:The only acceptable lottery plane answer is a Catalina tricked out to be an air yacht thank you very much You're thinking too small. The true answer is getting the blueprints to the Saunders-Roe Princess and finding someone willing to build it in exchange for all of your money.
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MRC48B posted:The last time Flying/Floating Yachts came up, I suggested it might be a good idea to ask Japan if they would build you a US-2 Sold. There's something especially rad about 4-prop planes. MrYenko posted:
only if you can actually get D-ICKS
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Sagebrush posted:Well yeah, that's always been my plan if I won more than 100 million dollars. You'd first have to find one in great shape and completely restore it, replace all the corroded frame pieces, etc. Then you wouldn't want to fly around the world on WW2 radials (or deal with finding 150-octane avgas wherever you went), so you'd have to convert it to twin turboprop to actually use it as intended. After the conversion it would be an experimental-certificate aircraft, and that means you can't fly it over populated areas or into class B airspace or a bunch of other places without specific written permission. So you'd also have to pay to get it tested and certificated as an STP conversion. And then you've just got the basic costs of building the interior into a yacht, and the ongoing cost of running a twin-engine flying boat on the general scale of a Dash-8, and so on...all together I don't think you could realistically do it for under 100 million. Fine, go and crush my dreams then, a Basler BT-67 on pontoons will just have to suffice 
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Pacific Clipper famously ran on mogas when it was forced to circumnavigate the globe after the attack on Pearl Harbor.Captain Robert Ford posted:We took off from Surabaya on the hundred octane, climbed a couple of thousand feet, and pulled back the power to cool off the engines. Then we switched to the automobile gas and held our breaths. The engines almost jumped out of their mounts, but they ran. We figured it was either that or leave the airplane to the Japs.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Since we're talking personal aircraft can I just say Knarr, matey!  A chill area AND a relax area? How luxurious
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in fact there is a third unlabeled chill/relax area up in the nose!
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Platystemon posted:Pacific Clipper famously ran on mogas when it was forced to circumnavigate the globe after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Note that mogas from Surabaya circa 1941 probably wasn’t anything like what we’d consider to be mogas now. poo poo was probably about 70 octane.
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MrYenko posted:Note that mogas from Surabaya circa 1941 probably wasn’t anything like what we’d consider to be mogas now. Until about 5 years ago mogas from Surabaya was likely to be about 82-84 US octane! 
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uhhhhhhhhhh no 1941 army field manual specifies 70-77 octane gas
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The Real Amethyst posted:According to this PIA 8303 was at an altitude of 10,000ft only 4 minutes out from landing, and descending at a rate of over 7000ft per minutes at one stage to intercept the glidescope. I didn't know "landing a Space Shuttle" was a fetish thing for pilots
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bennyfactor posted:
In an air ship every area is a chill/relax area
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Sagebrush posted:Well yeah, that's always been my plan if I won more than 100 million dollars. You'd first have to find one in great shape and completely restore it, replace all the corroded frame pieces, etc. Then you wouldn't want to fly around the world on WW2 radials (or deal with finding 150-octane avgas wherever you went), so you'd have to convert it to twin turboprop to actually use it as intended. After the conversion it would be an experimental-certificate aircraft, and that means you can't fly it over populated areas or into class B airspace or a bunch of other places without specific written permission. So you'd also have to pay to get it tested and certificated as an STP conversion. And then you've just got the basic costs of building the interior into a yacht, and the ongoing cost of running a twin-engine flying boat on the general scale of a Dash-8, and so on...all together I don't think you could realistically do it for under 100 million. What about a Be-200 and $65,000,000 of spare engines
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shame on an IGA posted:What about a Be-200 and $65,000,000 of spare engines
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Elviscat posted:In an air ship every area is a chill/relax area 
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Nevil Shute posted:It was pleasant up there sitting by the fins on a fine sunny day and whenever I went up there I would usually find two or three men sitting by the fins and gossiping. We kept a watch up there in daylight hours to keep an eye on the outer cover, and the riggers got so used to it they would walk upright along this little catwalk with their hands in their pockets, leaning against the wind and stepping over my recumbent body as I crawled on hands and knees. Burney lost his wrist watch up there one evening; it lay on top of the ship all night and was found by one of the riggers at dawn the next day, and returned to him.
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I would easily own a crappy airship over a fancy turboprop or biz jet. And with my lottery winnings I would build an amazing one. And Neb and his family would get to borrow it for a luxurious holiday.
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Hmm just thinking about a luxury airship makes the idea seem so obvious. It's easier to make carbon neutral propulsion for it than anything heavier than air. Also, that gas envelope, it must have a certain resonating ability, what if you put a big subwoofer inside it and go cruising?
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Ola posted:Hmm just thinking about a luxury airship makes the idea seem so obvious. It's easier to make carbon neutral propulsion for it than anything heavier than air. Also, that gas envelope, it must have a certain resonating ability, what if you put a big subwoofer inside it and go cruising? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzYLTnI7TUI&t=72s
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If you are an Unimportant Person, travel time is important to you because you always have to jet to wherever things are happening. If you are a Blimpin' Dude, you have all the time in the world because you are everybody else's destination. Wherever you are, that's where it's happenin'.
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Btw the ...nin' endings are not typical of me, but I'm trying to show off my copy skills and versatility for the advertising department of Neb's inevitable luxury empire.
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Launch is imminent Livestream https://youtu.be/bIZsnKGV8TE
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They made it into space and are on their way to the space station  Congratulations to Tom Mueller and Gwynne Shotwell on their great new rocket.
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If you told me Bob and Doug were Canadian astronauts, I would absolutely believe you.
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Safety Dance posted:If you told me Bob and Doug were Canadian astronauts, I would absolutely believe you. Doug is from upstate new york according to wikipedia so close enough 
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Ola posted:Btw the ...nin' endings are not typical of me, but I'm trying to show off my copy skills and versatility for the advertising department of Neb's inevitable luxury empire. I see you, friend The Knarr thing I just found surfing images via pinterest. The design is kinda neat - The structure for lifting wind turbine parts just this box-like structure, and the gondola and (presumably) the power plant just hang onto that. They don't have...reverse hovercraft cushions, though, and without anything like normal stabilizers, I guess they want to do everything via thrust? Also avoids the "flying butt" problems, Kanye West can order one in Saint's Row purple and gold
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