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Stare-Out posted:Circle for confirm and X for cancel is japanese only because they use those symbols for those exact things (Circle for "Correct" and X for "Wrong") and everywhere else, not just the US, it's the reverse. 0 means Off. But yes I know the japanese use circle to mean correct and x for wrong, oh well.
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PAL translations of games often used the circle for confirm, X for cancel thing even when the NTSC versions used X for confirm, circle for cancel. It was really annoying, because you never knew what you'd get until you started up the game.
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LifeSunDeath posted:Primary button being the one closest to your thumb, and down, makes sense because people can't remember right/left very well in general, up down is better, so bottom button just works best for a primary. This is why I like that convention, regardless of whether it lines up with the symbolic meaning on Sony's controller layout.
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Playing halo solo in tyool 2k20 is real tough imo. It's still very fun in coop tho which is the strong point of the series anyways to me. https://i.imgur.com/pQLrI07.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/KgeTQ3N.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/3Mb4mFu.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/4K293LO.mp4
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Nintendo's layout is correct in Japan, Microsoft's layout is correct in the west, and Sony flip-flops to always be right. However, the most correct layout is this:
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Dabir posted:Nintendo's layout is correct in Japan, Microsoft's layout is correct in the west, and Sony flip-flops to always be right. However, the most correct layout is this: I had no problem flipping back and forth from the GameCube controller to more standard ones than any other Nintendo controller. The completely different button layout and differently shaped and sized buttons made a huge difference.
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Jun 2, 2020 19:51
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Dabir posted:Nintendo's layout is correct in Japan, Microsoft's layout is correct in the west, and Sony flip-flops to always be right. However, the most correct layout is this: Yeah, I love the Pro/Xbox controller layout but having a good design where the buttons are just completely distinct is awesome. Probably hurt by the fact that it looked like a kids toy, but it felt great.
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Well, it kinda was a kids' toy. It is a pretty great layout, though. You're not hitting the wrong button in any QTEs on that one.
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I’m reminded of how I could never instinctively tell what stats were raised/lowered by a Pokemon’s Nature in Sun/Moon, because red and blue both have “negative” color connotations.
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I'm pretty sure they swapped which was which at some point too. Like, there were no colours at all in Ruby/Sapphire, Emerald made them red/blue and Diamond/Pearl made them blue/red and it absolutely proves your point that I know that and I can't remember which is which either.
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Jun 2, 2020 20:23
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That's another Japanese thing, I think. Circles are drawn in blue, crosses are drawn in red.
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Jun 2, 2020 20:24
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I always hated the shoulder buttons on the PS controllers. I am pretty sure my hands are normal size but the r2/l2 buttons never feel very natural and I always use my index fingers to push them unless they are combined with r1/l1.
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Jun 2, 2020 20:40
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Cardiovorax posted:That's another Japanese thing, I think. Circles are drawn in blue, crosses are drawn in red. Have you, like, ever looked at a PS controller?
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Dabir posted:Nintendo's layout is correct in Japan, Microsoft's layout is correct in the west, and Sony flip-flops to always be right. However, the most correct layout is this: How did GameCube games handle pressing two face buttons at the same time? Was it always A + something else? Any other combination looks pretty awkward to perform.
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HenryEx posted:Have you, like, ever looked at a PS controller? And no, not in about twenty years. So sorry for misremembering.
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Cardiovorax posted:Are you ever not bitching about something? I didn't even ever own a PlayStation 
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Have you, like, ever gazed longingly at a Playstation controller from the other side of the glass for hours on end? Memorizing every curve, every shape, every color...
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Have you, like, ever gazed longingly at a Playstation controller from the other side of the glass for hours on end? Memorizing every curve, every shape, every color... Who needs that when you have a game boy at home though. Two buttons is more than enough for anything worthwhile (which is Tetris)
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HenryEx posted:(which is Tetris Attack) 
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O for confirm and X for cancel is objectively correct because O is button 1 and X is button 2. Simple.
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RandomFerret posted:O for confirm and X for cancel is objectively correct because O is button 1 and X is button 2. Simple. They should have done it, Point, Line, Cube, Tesseract.
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Jun 2, 2020 22:11
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Yup Xeft Bright dAwn
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Lobok posted:How did GameCube games handle pressing two face buttons at the same time? Was it always A + something else? Any other combination looks pretty awkward to perform. I guess X+Y is a little tricky but otherwise, same as any other console?
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Kennel posted:Yup □eft ○ight ✕own
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Dabir posted:I guess X+Y is a little tricky but otherwise, same as any other console? X and y on a gamecube is easier than o and square on a playstation
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Dabir posted:I guess X+Y is a little tricky but otherwise, same as any other console? I mean I dunno, that's why I asked. X & Y looks a bit awkward since it looks like you have to press on the edges to avoid A and B & Y doesn't look doable with just a thumb (not like Square & Triangle is a great combo either). Then again A & Y is obviously easy while Cross & Triangle just doesn't ever work.
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Remember when triangle was cancel on some early playstation games? Yeah that sucked.
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Kennel posted:Yup aXross Buhhhh Ah yeah
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Cardiovorax posted:Well, it kinda was a kids' toy. It is a pretty great layout, though. You're not hitting the wrong button in any QTEs on that one.
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Doc M posted:I could never remember which button is X and which is Y on the GameCube controller. I guess there weren't many QTEs that used those and if they did, they probably showed the button shape so it didn't matter. Only now do I realize that X is in the positive direction on the X axis of a coordinate system and Y in the positive of the Y axis. loving genius.
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organburner posted:Only now do I realize that X is in the positive direction on the X axis of a coordinate system and Y in the positive of the Y axis. gently caress!
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organburner posted:Only now do I realize that X is in the positive direction on the X axis of a coordinate system and Y in the positive of the Y axis.  (I'll still probably get them mixed up because my brain is broken and I never remember which axis is which)The main problem with the GameCube controller is the fact it has fewer buttons than the PS2 and Xbox controllers. No left shoulder button, select button or clickable sticks. Nintendo games were obviously designed for this layout, but it wasn't great for multiplatform stuff because they'd require button combinations for some things and it was kind of a pain in the rear end. But that's enough about controllers, here's a Red Dead Redemption glitch I posted in the RDR2 thread months ago but forgot to post here. Due to the sudden shortage of horses in the town of Blackwater, the inhabitants of the town had to ride each other:  Hey, whatever works. One US army soldier even ended up riding his grandma to a battle:    I don't know why the game broke like this. I died a few times in the annoying turret section because you can't hit anything with that gatling gun, and then after a few attempts I noticed that guy riding an old lady instead of a horse. I loaded my earlier save and discovered nearly everyone in Blackwater was now riding a person, as you can see in the top screenshot. The game crashed shortly after that. DMorbid has a new favorite as of 11:00 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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Dabir posted:Nintendo's layout is correct in Japan, Microsoft's layout is correct in the west, and Sony flip-flops to always be right. However, the most correct layout is this:  Game: Press X! My brain: 
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dialhforhero posted:I always hated the shoulder buttons on the PS controllers. I am pretty sure my hands are normal size but the r2/l2 buttons never feel very natural and I always use my index fingers to push them unless they are combined with r1/l1. Uh wait what are you supposed to use them any other way? Barudak posted:Remember when triangle was cancel on some early playstation games? Yeah that sucked. BallisticNG, which emulates the first Wipeout games, has that as a default control scheme and it confused the gently caress out of me.
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I don’t know. When I grab a PS controller I feel like it was designed to have your ring and pinky on the handles with your middle on the r2 and l2 and index on r1 and l1. I say that because of how short the handles are in comparison to the Xbox controller or Gamecube even.
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It may have been designed that way, but you'll be hard pressed to find a game that asks you to press both regularly.
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I mean pretty much every Fromsoft game uses the shoulder buttons more than the face buttons.
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organburner posted:Only now do I realize that X is in the positive direction on the X axis of a coordinate system and Y in the positive of the Y axis. poo poo. Literally the only controller that makes sense.
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marshmallow creep posted:I mean pretty much every Fromsoft game uses the shoulder buttons more than the face buttons. And when are you gonna press both buttons on the same side at the same time? Holding shield plus pressing parry, maybe.
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Fighting games.
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