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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
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*genie bursts out of block of solid ruby* th-the magic words!! I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Unpopular Opinion: Martial law won't occur for (at least) all fifty states of the US. Or a civil war.

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Oct 30, 2009

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I had a half white half Asian friend in middle school named Marshall Law

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica
The existence of agent provocateurs doesn't remove responsibility for burning down buildings

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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It's Ok to burn down buildings, buildings don't have feelings

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica
Also, the destruction of a small business, given the probable lack of riot insurance probably has worse long term health effects than a mid-serious injury


Edit: and don't try blaming capitalism

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Piss Meridian posted:

Also, the destruction of a small business, given the probable lack of riot insurance probably has worse long term health effects than a mid-serious injury


Edit: and don't try blaming capitalism

Are you one of these guys

https://twitter.com/LILACPhilly/status/1267902077998686208?s=20

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica

Nope. Sooting people trying to burn down your small personal business (not GameStop) is justified tho

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Piss Meridian posted:

Nope. Sooting people trying to burn down your small personal business (not GameStop) is justified tho

Why not Gamestop? Because it's not a "small personal" business? How big does a business have to be before you think it's not worth more than a human life?

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica

Gripweed posted:

Why not Gamestop? Because it's not a "small personal" business? How big does a business have to be before you think it's not worth more than a human life?

Big enough to have riot insurance and the capacity to absorb the loss of a store. In addition, GameStop contains sufficient capital that even massive damage wouldn't meaningfully hurt the group of people who own it.

Burning down a barber shop is destroying someone's ability to provide for themselves, which represent a very real impact on someones life and health

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Nov 17, 2011

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Piss Meridian posted:

Burning down a barber shop is destroying someone's ability to provide for themselves, which represent a very real impact on someones life and health

More so than shooting them dead?

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica

Josef bugman posted:

More so than shooting them dead?

The thing about threatening to shoot someone is that they normally leave rather than pressing the issue. Besides, when you're the aggressor you're always second priority

Edit: you are, if course obligated to use the minimal possible force, and a threat display is better than actual violence

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Piss Meridian posted:

The thing about threatening to shoot someone is that they normally leave rather than pressing the issue. Besides, when you're the aggressor you're always second priority

Edit: you are, if course obligated to use the minimal possible force, and a threat display is better than actual violence

My dude, if you have not watched the videos of the police shootings, you should.

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica

mind the walrus posted:

My dude, if you have not watched the videos of the police shootings, you should.

The actions of the police are irrelevant. I support the protestors, but that doesn't include destroying people's ability to feed themselves.

I'm also not supporting any given example of looters being shot, if that is what you are referring to.

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

beep boop does not compute

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Piss Meridian posted:

I'm also not supporting any given example of looters being shot, if that is what you are referring to.

Ok so you don't support actual people being shot, only hypothetical people. Hypothetical people in a hypothetical scenario. A hypothetical scenario which, to the best of your knowledge, has never happened. Because if it had ever happened you could point to it and say "Yes, this man's life was worth less than that store, and I'm glad he was killed"

Great.

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica

Gripweed posted:

Ok so you don't support actual people being shot, only hypothetical people. Hypothetical people in a hypothetical scenario. A hypothetical scenario which, to the best of your knowledge, has never happened. Because if it had ever happened you could point to it and say "Yes, this man's life was worth less than that store, and I'm glad he was killed"

Great.

It's hardly unusual, and I'm sure it happened during these riots. Your wounded attitude about not being allowed to burn something is really gross by the way.

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Piss Meridian posted:

It's hardly unusual, and I'm sure it happened during these riots. Your wounded attitude about not being allowed to burn something is really gross by the way.

If it's so not unusual a simple google search should bring up a person who you believe deserved to die. You could do that, find an example, post it here, clearly and explicitly say "this man, whose name is _____ ________, deserved to die for destroying a store" and then we could argue about whether or not that person's life had greater value than a store.

Piss Meridian
Mar 25, 2020

by Pragmatica

Gripweed posted:

If it's so not unusual a simple google search should bring up a person who you believe deserved to die. You could do that, find an example, post it here, clearly and explicitly say "this man, whose name is _____ ________, deserved to die for destroying a store" and then we could argue about whether or not that person's life had greater value than a store.

The unnamed looter who burnt down that guys sports bar deserved to die, if he continually escalated in violence against someone clearly intent on protecting their property.

In that case he was covered by crowdfunding, but we all know that's hit and miss.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

This is a bad derail even for this honeypot thread. I'm only willing to let posters show so much of their asses before I bring out the giant vaudeville hook.

So that's about enough of the discussion about shooting people. It's not going anywhere fruitful.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

its okay to have an established canon of literature, not because the canon is necessarily representative but because its the only way to make literature teachable. if everybody in the country has read kafka's metamorphosis then that's much better for the state of general literacy than if everyone just reads whatever they want (and for most people that means they just read harry potter or some poo poo), since it creates a shared set of references and turns of phrase. if you don't have a canon of established quality works then things like TV and movies become the primary source of people's lexicon and you get situations where people unconsciously start using Gamer Thrones phrases like "bend the knee"

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

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Shibawanko posted:

its okay to have an established canon of literature, not because the canon is necessarily representative but because its the only way to make literature teachable. if everybody in the country has read kafka's metamorphosis then that's much better for the state of general literacy than if everyone just reads whatever they want (and for most people that means they just read harry potter or some poo poo), since it creates a shared set of references and turns of phrase. if you don't have a canon of established quality works then things like TV and movies become the primary source of people's lexicon and you get situations where people unconsciously start using Gamer Thrones phrases like "bend the knee"

We read The Hunger Games for english class my last year of high school

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Aramek
Dec 22, 2007

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

We read The Hunger Games for english class my last year of high school

Was it good? I did not watch any of the movies.

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Aramek posted:

Was it good? I did not watch any of the movies.

It follows the movie pretty close so if you liked the movie you’ll like the book

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

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The first Hunger Games movie is the most OK film I've ever seen, it wasn't at all bad, I certainly enjoyed it enough to remember going to the cinema to see it but I didn't think to ever check out the sequels and I probably hadn't even thought about it again until it got mentioned there

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The government should open free gyms

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Nov 17, 2011

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Also pubs that are subsidised.

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Gripweed posted:

The government should open free gyms

“Free” huh? Well I hope you’re not planning on using my hard earned tax dollars to fund any of this!

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Josef bugman posted:

Also pubs that are subsidised.

Government subsidized cafeterias that serve good cheap food, and also beer in the evenings

oldpainless posted:

“Free” huh? Well I hope you’re not planning on using my hard earned tax dollars to fund any of this!

Yes, all of it. I will take all of your money for the free gyms.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

oldpainless posted:

It follows the movie pretty close so if you liked the movie you’ll like the book

did you see Holes because the ad campaign said "Holes: the book is now the movie" and I was like nuh uh but now I'm wracked with doubt about my knee-jerk contrarianism

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Pastry of the Year posted:

did you see Holes because the ad campaign said "Holes: the book is now the movie" and I was like nuh uh but now I'm wracked with doubt about my knee-jerk contrarianism

Yes I’ve seen many pornos

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Gripweed posted:

The government should open free gyms

I mean there are all these free open air gyms they run called parks.

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docbeard posted:

I mean there are all these free open air gyms they run called parks.

Your local public park has free weights and a squat rack?

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

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Kristoff's song from Frozen 2 is better than Let it Go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8jNbZIsBQU

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YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope
Chocolate + mint is a gross combination.
Chocolate + fruit, also gross.

Chocolate is good with peanuts, hazelnuts, almonds, peanut butter, or espresso.

Gripweed posted:

All babies look the same.

Yes -- ugly.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

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the best flavour of wings is chipotle raspberry

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

YeahTubaMike posted:

Chocolate + fruit, also gross.
Chocolate and orange rules though.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

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Doctor Rope

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Chocolate and orange rules though.

No.

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Jul 19, 2011

Gripweed posted:

Your local public park has free weights and a squat rack?

It has rocks and trees. So yes.

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