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Snow Cone Capone posted:Bortus would never protest that he is not a merry man. I AM A VIRGIN IN THAT WAY
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You all are making me miss this show..  may have to do a rewatch
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Jun 1, 2020 20:21
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Last Chance posted:You all are making me miss this show.. 
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Jun 1, 2020 20:24
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Does anyone else find themselves skipping the pilot? There are just a lot of strange cringey elements that were ironed out by the second or third episodes.
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Zurui posted:Does anyone else find themselves skipping the pilot? There are just a lot of strange cringey elements that were ironed out by the second or third episodes. It's important to see it once, though. If nothing else for the setup to 
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I discovered I had access to this on streaming and have ended up just binge watching the whole lot over a week. I wasn't sure what to expect and ended up finding it scratched an itch better than Picard or Discovery (the latter I gave up on). It kinda feels a bit like Spartacus in that it is outgrowing its baggage (tits, cock & blood / Macfarlane's brand of humour) to deliver a well written show that puts a lot of more illustrious shows to shame.
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Pablo Bluth posted:I discovered I had access to this on streaming and have ended up just binge watching the whole lot over a week. I wasn't sure what to expect and ended up finding it scratched an itch better than Picard or Discovery (the latter I gave up on). It kinda feels a bit like Spartacus in that it is outgrowing its baggage (tits, cock & blood / Macfarlane's brand of humour) to deliver a well written show that puts a lot of more illustrious shows to shame. Yeah the worst part is putting himself in the show, but he's such a huge startrek geek it's hard to hold it against him. Whoms't among us wouldn't be a spaceship captain if we had the chance?
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Jun 1, 2020 21:15
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Yeah, when he says "engage quantum drive!" for the first time you can tell he's been living for this day since he was like, 5.
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Zurui posted:Yeah, when he says "engage quantum drive!" for the first time you can tell he's been living for this day since he was like, 5. Hell, I have been too
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Mooseontheloose posted:I find Bortus to be interesting because he clearly is very liberal/non-traditional for his culture. Same, I think Bortus is the only* Moclan adult we've seen who really seems to buy into the Union as a cultural exchange instead of just an economic-defensive alliance. Virtually all of the other Moclans practically resent any serious interrogation of their society or idea that they can learn anything from other cultures, they're socially conservative almost as a species trait. *Not counting the gender dissident underground, who understandably have a different perspective about all of this.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Agreed, but Bortus addresses this head-on in one of the episodes - it's understandable that Klyden has a lot of culture shock, but he's been presented with endless opportunities to learn and integrate with the crew and has denied or rebuffed them all.
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Why's it on him to assimilate and not the crew? The crew has consistently made allowances for Moclan cultural norms and participated in Moclan games and ceremonies. Klyden has consistently refused to meet them halfway and instead spends most of his time hiding himself in Bortus' quarters.
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Why's it on him to assimilate and not the crew? The crew takes a detour to Moclus so that Bortus can take a ceremonial piss off a mountain Klyden refuses to acknowledge the ship's commander in conversation because she's a woman Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Zurui posted:Yeah, when he says "engage quantum drive!" for the first time you can tell he's been living for this day since he was like, 5. To be fair, that fits perfectly with Mercer's character too. The Bloop posted:It's important to see it once, though. If nothing else for the setup to JA'LOJAAAAAAA!!!!
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I know people love to hate Seth but he definitely had the self-awareness to write his character as a dad-joking goober I think Mercer is a good character and well played
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Agreed, and I hate Seth in virtually everything else he's done. It helps a lot that Mercer is written as clearly a flawed person. Honestly, on a Star Trek Captains scale he's pretty good too. He clearly values the input from his crew, plays to their strengths and goes to great lengths to make sure everyone feels important.
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And he allows them to have beverages on the bridge.
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Davros1 posted:And he allows them to have beverages on the bridge. So did the old captain, there are also cup holders for the command chairs.
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Jun 2, 2020 18:07
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I like that he doesn't play his own character off like a Mary Sue. Mercer does lovely things and gets called out on it by everyone.
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I feel like Moclans are almost more a riff on Ferengi than Klingons; their primary industry seems to be arms dealing, they're misogynistic, etc etc.
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Cojawfee posted:I like that he doesn't play his own character off like a Mary Sue. Mercer does lovely things and gets called out on it by everyone. He also takes a back seat a lot too. Sometimes Mercer is barely around in an episode and it really just focuses on other characters. It does make the project seem a little less self indulgent (still *really* self indulgent).
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Cojawfee posted:I like that he doesn't play his own character off like a Mary Sue. Mercer does lovely things and gets called out on it by everyone. And he isn't a bad rear end. He is just a normal dude. His First Officer is the kickass one.
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Jun 2, 2020 22:43
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Jun 2, 2020 22:48
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Yeah. Hating it only because Seth is in it is stupid. He's perfect for the role as written. If you wanna hate it just because Seth made it, fine. (you're still an idiot though)
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Especially since apparently a lot of the cheaper humor was forced in by Fox, who looked at the concept and went "oh ok Family Guy dude, you want to make Family Guy Star Trek? go for it!" S3 is gonna rule now that they're on Hulu
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One thing I like is that the Orville itself isn't a flagship or technically anything special. Ed isn't the first Captain, and there's nothing experimental about it. It's just a regular old exploritory ship, that ends up making history. Hell, Isaac was probably stationed there for that very reason.
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JossiRossi posted:He also takes a back seat a lot too. Sometimes Mercer is barely around in an episode and it really just focuses on other characters. It does make the project seem a little less self indulgent (still *really* self indulgent). Reminder that this exists. It's an earned self-indulgence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TnCS1RNBFE
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Im 96% certain that most seth-haters among trek fans would gladly take same place he has now. And gently caress up badly but that's optional ( picard/discovery big budget gold names fanfics)
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mllaneza posted:Reminder that this exists. It's an earned self-indulgence. I keep hoping they show a bit of that clip on the show as "When Mercer was young he was THIS kind of dork" and change the commbadge and the like.
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JossiRossi posted:I keep hoping they show a bit of that clip on the show as "When Mercer was young he was THIS kind of dork" and change the commbadge and the like. They don't need to change anything. Just make Trek a show in their world (implying it's ours) They do it with other shows
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Yup. Remember they were watching Seinfeld on the bridge.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Yup. Remember they were watching Seinfeld on the bridge. Somehow this reminded me of this https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tv-show-fake-tommy-westphall-universe_n_55f84ba1e4b00e2cd5e8118a?guccounter=1 
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Is that the thing where someone notices someone has a can of coke in a show, and there was a can of coke in St. Elsewhere so the shows are connected?
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Cojawfee posted:Is that the thing where someone notices someone has a can of coke in a show, and there was a can of coke in St. Elsewhere so the shows are connected? Looks like it's about which shows feature the same background references and/or have had direct crossovers (regardless if they were promotional one-offs or regular episodes). The fake Morely Cigarettes brand seems to have been pretty common across a lot of productions, and so that "counts" as being part of a shared universe.
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Season Three when?!
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Tarquinn posted:Season Three when?! Well, first we need to get "filming tv shows" added to the list of essential businesses.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Looks like it's about which shows feature the same background references and/or have had direct crossovers (regardless if they were promotional one-offs or regular episodes). The fake Morely Cigarettes brand seems to have been pretty common across a lot of productions, and so that "counts" as being part of a shared universe. They're in The Walking Dead so that shared universe has a hell of a twist
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I"m declaring that chart invalid due to labeling "The Ropers" as "The Rodgers."The Bloop posted:They're in The Walking Dead so that shared universe has a hell of a twist https://www.theearlhayspress.com/ Now you can get your own issues of Playpen to leave around the house.
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