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Tenebrais posted:Very timely, all things considered! Oh Lord I am really far behind watching these.
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Oh dear. Arthur let slip.
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Jun 1, 2020 09:23
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Jesus that's some heavy poo poo you're casually dropping there Kat.
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Jun 1, 2020 12:37
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Can't wait for reddit/goons to start complaining about quartz alternators instead of the implications that Robot labelled Kat an angel.
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Jun 1, 2020 14:33
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quartz alternators don't exist... yet 
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Jun 1, 2020 14:44
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Is this the first time Kat has actually considered that the robots think of her as a god? The seraphs call her creator, but even that can be hand-waved away pretty easily by the no-nonsense engineer who is creating bodies for them.
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Jun 1, 2020 15:00
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This really sounds like that thought experiment Coyote did with Antimony all the way back about how he placed the moon even though everyone knows he didn't. Something something belief
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Is this the first time Kat has actually considered that the robots think of her as a god? The seraphs call her creator, but even that can be hand-waved away pretty easily by the no-nonsense engineer who is creating bodies for them. She's a very myopic teenage science nerd. She's probably not given the ethics or ramifications of her actions a single thought other than, "Hey! That would be cool to do!"
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There Bias Two posted:She's a very myopic teenage science nerd. She's probably not given the ethics or ramifications of her actions a single thought other than, "Hey! That would be cool to do!" For sure. I'm not really making a value judgement on Kat's lack of perspective. It makes sense from a character perspective. My impression of her conversation with Arthur is it's a pretty big milestone for her, but it wouldn't seem as big if the process had been more gradual than I remembered, so I asked about it.
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Jun 1, 2020 15:20
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Is this the first time Kat has actually considered that the robots think of her as a god? The seraphs call her creator, but even that can be hand-waved away pretty easily by the no-nonsense engineer who is creating bodies for them. Robot called her an angel to her face when they first met, but she was eleven years old and just thought he was being cute. I'm not sure any of the others have been up-front about how they see her until now.
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Jun 1, 2020 16:07
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Paz assistant also called her Angel, 10 years ago https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=756 
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Jun 1, 2020 16:53
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she probably hears it all the time off screen. e: King also calls her angel https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=643
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Jun 1, 2020 20:56
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What if the price for magic is to become unable to use science? To transcend laws, you must discard them.
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My read on the pages where she's been called an angel before is she took it as an innocent compliment, like 'a lovely person' kind of angel. I'm guessing the recent conversation with Arthur got a lot more cult-y.
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Jun 1, 2020 23:39
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"Wait, THAT'S what you mean? Oh no."
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Lunar Suite posted:What if the price for magic is to become unable to use science? To transcend laws, you must discard them. Follow-up question. Kat would never give up science for magic. What event forces her to go through with it? I may have said this (or read it here) before, but I really think the court is engineering a way to create their own God in Kat in order to go toe to toe with Coyote/Loup.
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Jun 2, 2020 15:43
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lmfao good loving luck you goddamn assholes kat hates the court these days
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Jun 3, 2020 03:01
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phhffft like kat wouldn't consider something as simple as a worldline containing closed timelike curves
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Jun 3, 2020 08:09
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But all of this doesn't matter, because sending the TicToc back in time is impossible. Let's forget about this and move on.
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Donkringel posted:Follow-up question. Kat would never give up science for magic. "It is man's attempt to become God" is the precise wording used...
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The queen thinks all of Britain smells like fresh paint, and Kat thinks robots use angel as a term of endearment the way you might hear other people say "hon" or "pet".
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Jun 3, 2020 09:23
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Return of football head annie :3
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Jun 3, 2020 09:31
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Thats a rather... Forceful denial about time travel. "Nope. I don't have a time machine. Definitely not. And if I did I certainly wouldn't create paradoxes with it."
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Inglonias posted:Thats a rather... Forceful denial about time travel. "...and if I did create a paradox it's ok because it'd have already happened anyway."
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"It's impossible" she says, almost petulantly, desperately trying to hang on to her truths. What a world to live in where "I'm not a god" and "time travel is impossible" are false statements. Also, I really like the composition of the last panel. It's Annie that's getting smaller and smaller in the image to represent the falling, but the way it's blocked out makes it clear that Kat is the one experiencing the sensation of free fall, and the reader is taken along for the ride.
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Jun 3, 2020 14:35
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On a scale of matter translocation to anti-gravity unit made of a thermos and coat hangers, how impossible is time travel, Kat?
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Jun 3, 2020 16:38
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Because she has declared it impossible, time travel is now impossible. Just God things. You might not understand.
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Then why did she say “they’re all this same robot” if she doesn’t think time travel is possible?
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Pardot posted:Then why did she say “they’re all this same robot” if she doesn’t think time travel is possible? Alternate universe. One where time just isn't quite as far along yet, perhaps, but is otherwise the same. So, time travel with extra steps.
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I can't tell who's joking and who isn't but this is some very obvious moment of Kat being in denial of what is plainly and literally in front of her due to not being to able to cope with it.
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Yeah to be clear that face has "in denial" written all over it. Though it's also not head-fully-in-sand denial because she's already said all the tic-tocs are that bird.
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maswastaken posted:On a scale of matter translocation to anti-gravity unit made of a thermos and coat hangers, how impossible is time travel, Kat? Who cares? Protein crystals! Don't worry, Kat. Time is an n-tuple helix and causality isn't a problem. There's another you(s) in another universe(s) who already created a birdbot and sent it across the spiral to save your Annie. If you fail to make a robot and send it across the spiral, you're only letting down an Annie and Kat in a completely different parallel reality.
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Mikl posted:But all of this doesn't matter, because sending the TicToc back in time is impossible. Let's forget about this and move on. Boy is Kat gonna feel silly for worrying about this when Loup steals her Tic-Toc, duplicates it, and sends them back in time!
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Good on whoever originally suggested that unaltered timeline death-by-bridge Annie was the reason for the 'neither of them should be here' comment from the interpreter. Nailed it exactly.
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Yes but what does this mean going forward?
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Possibly nothing, it's a solved problem at least in this universe. Annie was probably going to die, and we already know that Kat's tic tocs prevented it. She's still coming to grips with the idea that it's a foregone conclusion, but because it did happen we already know she eventually goes through with it. This caused the events leading up to now unfold differently, but that doesn't really matter as we have no frame of reference for how they'd be different. It'd be interesting to get a glance at what the world would be like without Annie past that point. edit: rephrased some stuff CJacobs fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jun 4, 2020 |
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BobTheJanitor posted:Good on whoever originally suggested that unaltered timeline death-by-bridge Annie was the reason for the 'neither of them should be here' comment from the interpreter. Nailed it exactly. I think you'll find that was reddit, obviously.
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BrightWing posted:Yes but what does this mean going forward? It means that one Annie is back to being the original Annie and this could easily not be a grand hotel problem anymore. As little as two timelines rather than infinite timelines, which would also mean there's a timeline without an Annie.
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We should also keep in mind this is purely Kat's speculation - other theories about neither Annie belonging could still be applicable, we don't know for certain that Kat is correct.
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Kat's basically being asked to give up on her understanding of reality to save her best friend. Or rather, told assertively by the universe that she will.
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