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Jokes? Where did you go jokes? I get enough non jokes for a lifetime literally anywhere else. Come back.
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yea unsurprisingly maxfun's token minority show cares more that the rich lady (who has said tons of lovely anti-black stuff, woops) got her feelings kinda hurt by someone way less powerful than her than they do about actual problems.
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Jun 2, 2020 03:14
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should have replaced this week's TAZ with a friends at the table or something instead
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Jun 2, 2020 03:16
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vote for joe biden, the guy who literally today said his solution was to tell cops to shoot people in the leg not the chest and who wrote the crime bill that lead to all this overpolicing, because otherwise the weird rich freak who tried to start a twitter fight with a black child may get called kinda a hack.
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maximum fun is almost certainly all neoliberals that are very sincerely voting for joe bidenBlockhouse posted:should have replaced this week's TAZ with a friends at the table or something instead i've always had the sense that austin doesn't love the mcelroys but i'm not sure if it's just because of the nick situation before griffin found out
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inferis posted:maximum fun is almost certainly all neoliberals that are very sincerely voting for joe biden He's shouted out griffin before and I'm pretty sure they did a panel together once
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Jun 2, 2020 03:20
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I can't even make it through the Maxfun ads for Minority Korner without skipping, it sounds dreadful.
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Who shot ya I remember being pretty good
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Who shot ya I remember being pretty good Yea it's a p solid movie podcast. I check it out whenever they're talking about a movie I've seen or am interested in seeing.
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Jun 2, 2020 12:07
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For a second after checking my feed I thought the new MBMBaM episode was titled "Minority Korner" and I was verrrrry concerned
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AndrewP posted:For a second after checking my feed I thought the new MBMBaM episode was titled "Minority Korner" and I was verrrrry concerned McElroy's cancelled after some VERY problematic 'voice work'.
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Jun 3, 2020 02:29
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they should repost glass shark
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https://twitter.com/McElroyFamily/status/1268235138942545920
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pre-100 is still the funniest McElroy era, don't @ me
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inferis posted:they should repost glass shark I lay on my deathbed. Barely able to muster the strength to lift my finger to beckon the priest to bring his ear to me. The last breaths of my life slip past my vocal cords. "glass shark wasn't racist..."
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the biggest problem with every post-balance season of taz is that the mcelroys have gotten it into their heads that they need some kind of dramatic overarching plot instead of an excuse to improv the dumbest possible poo poo in a series of bizarro, fantastical locales let the chips fall where they may for the first dozen episodes and then decide what kind of final confrontation makes sense given everything the players have expressed interest in e: i absolutely do not give a poo poo about argo keene's mom or whatever because it's always an interruption to the action and never works in facilitation of it QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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Jun 3, 2020 19:52
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Yeah. I think they really need an actual dungeon master guide them through it.
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Rude Tales does that well. There is an overarching plot kinda - the school disappeared. Which is (so far) just a means to go to interesting locales with mostly one-off NPCs for them to be funny with. I like it because it gives them a purpose but I don't really have to remember anyone except a few people.
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I've fell behind on my TAZ but every gaming podcast i've got into has a clear enough arc. Let the players goof about so you start to care about the characters. Then gradually bring in the plot now you care about them.
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I think Travis did try to do that by giving them a couple easy early missions to go on. The group doesn't seem all that interested in goofing though, even the players have a very different vibe to early Balance. It's not just a Travis thing.
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the mcelroys saw the response to stolen century/the ending of balance and concluded that people want solo adventures that are weighty and dramatic from the start rather than earning our affection through arcs of just being goofy and developing the characters
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Colonel Whitey posted:I think Travis did try to do that by giving them a couple easy early missions to go on. The group doesn't seem all that interested in goofing though, even the players have a very different vibe to early Balance. It's not just a Travis thing. It really does feel that way, doesn't it? But it's not for lack of trying, like that one time Argo proposed serving a subpoena to a cave monster and they all ran with it. There are definitely jokes happening, but the vibe is different in a way I can't quite pin down.
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Soup du Jour posted:the mcelroys saw the response to stolen century/the ending of balance and concluded that people want solo adventures that are weighty and dramatic from the start rather than earning our affection through arcs of just being goofy and developing the characters But nothing's happening that is weighty and dramatic. Solo, sure, but until this episode there was no attempt to really be dramatic or like...anything. I don't think you can blame the end of Balance for the way Graduation is going. I also still think the boys shot themselves in the foot by having 2/3rds of the party want nothing to do with the school
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Soup du Jour posted:the mcelroys saw the response to stolen century/the ending of balance and concluded that people want solo adventures that are weighty and dramatic from the start rather than earning our affection through arcs of just being goofy and developing the characters i didn't care at all for the stolen century, tbqh. it was better than "the suffering game" but i miss light, goofy TAZ Fred is on posted:It really does feel that way, doesn't it? But it's not for lack of trying, like that one time Argo proposed serving a subpoena to a cave monster and they all ran with it. There are definitely jokes happening, but the vibe is different in a way I can't quite pin down. the subpoena was funny and my only frustration is that Travis decided to go with "the monster is actually nice!" instead of it being a mindless abomination they couldn't talk into submission Colonel Whitey posted:I think Travis did try to do that by giving them a couple easy early missions to go on. The group doesn't seem all that interested in goofing though, even the players have a very different vibe to early Balance. It's not just a Travis thing. i could be misremembering but i thought the early episodes went heavy on the idea that there was a secret conspiracy in the school that obviously was intended to be an overarching narrative QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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QuoProQuid posted:i could be misremembering but i thought the early episodes went heavy on the idea that there was a secret conspiracy in the school that obviously was intended to be an overarching narrative Yeah kinda but the players had plenty of opportunity to goof around. Not any less than Gerblins or Rockport.
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Fred is on posted:It really does feel that way, doesn't it? But it's not for lack of trying, like that one time Argo proposed serving a subpoena to a cave monster and they all ran with it. There are definitely jokes happening, but the vibe is different in a way I can't quite pin down. I think having the first arc of Balance be a pre-built tutorial mission helped because they didn’t have to worry about making GBS threads all over Griffin’s hard work in creating this elaborate fantasy campaign. And by the time Rockport hit their characters were already cemented as goofballs and Griffin was able to run with it. Travis built this world and story. If my brother came to me with a video game he made and wanted to play it with me my first instinct would not be to try to clip out of bounds and dick around.
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dirksteadfast posted:If my brother came to me with a video game he made and wanted to play it with me my first instinct would not be to try to clip out of bounds and dick around. Either you are an only child or you have a bizarre relationship with your brothers
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Either you are an only child or you have a bizarre relationship with your brothers Yeah, on that very note I should run a campaign and get my sister to play. She would warp it inside out and burn it alive, most likely. Would be fun!
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QuoProQuid posted:the subpoena was funny and my only frustration is that Travis decided to go with "the monster is actually nice!" instead of it being a mindless abomination they couldn't talk into submission The monster he picked was specifically not a mindless abomniation
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The ads for minority korner make it sound like some sort of generic feel good morning show about celebs but I get that it’s probably the closest thing on max fun to the sort of message they were wanting to send so I respect the gesture
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Yeah that's pretty much exactly what it was
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QuoProQuid posted:i could be misremembering but i thought the early episodes went heavy on the idea that there was a secret conspiracy in the school that obviously was intended to be an overarching narrative The early episodes were extremely "here's a school environment, low stakes, let's have some goofs" except they didn't actually goof particularly hard so everyone just complained that it was slow and pointless. I think this arc was actually an explicit reaction to everyone reacting to Amnesty with "too deep/serious too soon," it just doesn't seem to have turned into anything special before it did get swept up into plot. It's really weird.
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Organza Quiz posted:The early episodes were extremely "here's a school environment, low stakes, let's have some goofs" except they didn't actually goof particularly hard so everyone just complained that it was slow and pointless. I think this arc was actually an explicit reaction to everyone reacting to Amnesty with "too deep/serious too soon," it just doesn't seem to have turned into anything special before it did get swept up into plot. It's really weird. I think one thing that helped the goof potential in Balance is that the arcs were clean-cut and usually had some easily-understood genre basis or premise that could work as a springboard for riffing. "Detective story on a train", "Fantasy Fast and the Furious", "Investigating a town stuck in a one-hour time loop", "A lab with goofy robots and such where something went terribly wrong". The premises in themselves were already pretty fun just on paper, and what the players did within them only elevated the material. Then you have Amnesty, which I already remember only hazily. You had the... intro arc, the water monster arc, the one with doppelgangers? They met the Mothman and fought a tree, I guess? Then it was a drawn-out endgame? And then there's Graduation, which has more clearly-defined arcs but the premises aren't entertaining in themselves. "Intervening in some kind of union dispute, I guess, and there's a monster in a mine", "Basic hack & slash themed after a pun Travis came up with while delirious with sleep deprivation after his second child's birth", "Intervening in a conflict between centaurs over a magic apple". And that's about it. But why couldn't have Mission: Imp Hospital riffed on spy movie tropes, to give a point to the "Mission" part of its title? Give Argo a magic watch with built-in gadgets he'll never use, have Fitzroy need to rappel through a convoluted laser grid, find an excuse for the Fir Bolg to wear a tuxedo. The centaur/apple of discord thing is vaguely inspired by Greek mythology, but why stop there? Why not have a pantheon of bickering dieties be involved, turning people into spiders over minor slights? Have an NPC pitch an infiltration plan involving a giant wooden horse (which the players can then make fun of)? Have an invincible villain whose weak spot is probably their ankle? Those ideas could all be comedy gold in the McElroys' hands, but instead there's... an unhelpful wizard? Centaurs with saturday morning cartoon personalities? A generic forest spirit? My impression is that they don't just want to be more "serious", they also want to stop using pop culture as a storytelling crutch and instead do their own thing. Unfortunately, their own thing is not nearly as ripe for comedy. But anyway, the Besties is also on break this week: https://twitter.com/thebestiespod/status/1268538413633937413 How's that one, for people who gave it a listen?
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Amnesty also had clearly defined arcs and a genre basis, and I also don't think every arc has to be a blatant parody of a specific type of story to be funny. If anything that's a good way of making sure you run out of room real quick. "Giving Argo a spy watch" wouldn't have improved anything.
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I think part of it was that starting with Amnesty, the arcs weren't specifically labeled anymore, which combined with the consistent location and cast, causes them to kinda blend together.
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Blockhouse posted:Amnesty also had clearly defined arcs and a genre basis, and I also don't think every arc has to be a blatant parody of a specific type of story to be funny. If anything that's a good way of making sure you run out of room real quick. "Giving Argo a spy watch" wouldn't have improved anything. Clint's delight at having a spy watch would have absolutely improved something. I don't know, I think everyone's got a theory on Why Graduation Doesn't Work and, while I haven't been as down on it as everyone else I also haven't felt the urgent need to listen to any of the past four episodes. My guess is that it's that they fell prey to the thing that a lot of creative people do after a bona fide big hit; they try to replicate something that happened organically, and it turns out to be almost impossible to do. This, more than Amnesty even (and I liked Amnesty a lot, for all that it had some real flaws too), is their troubled second album.
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And overall, they have something around 40-60 minutes every two weeks to issue course correction, so if they are learning/improving, it's always going to seem like it's taking a long time.
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Plan Z posted:And overall, they have something around 40-60 minutes every two weeks to issue course correction, so if they are learning/improving, it's always going to seem like it's taking a long time. Yeah. It can't be any an easy instant fix because it wasn't a bad creative idea that can just be reversed or rewritten. It is a lack of skill at the medium that will need incremental improvements.
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lmao Counsellor Troi is going off on LMM and it rules https://twitter.com/Marina_Sirtis/status/1268616519908352003
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Tears In A Vial posted:lmao Counsellor Troi is going off on LMM and it rules When you destroy the most beloved EGOT winner of all time so effectively that he deletes the tweet.
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