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Fister Roboto posted:Wow, clothing that doesn't make you have to keep holding your pants up with your hands exists. What incredible new technology. Arudak stole his clothes to force him to get new ones specifically so he didn't have to keep watching snout's pants almost fall off
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Jun 2, 2020 21:46
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lol It astounds me how much worse he’s gotten.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:I hope my deaf uncle never find out about this comic. "I wish I was blind too"
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Jun 2, 2020 21:53
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lol it's like he started out trying to draw a different flight path but then got bored after three seconds
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Jun 2, 2020 22:32
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Holy loving poo poo Anytime someone tries to give Mookie the benefit of the doubt and compliments him for a page he did well, just think back to this. He couldn't be bothered to redraw a single line The guy is the same too, isn't he, except for his left arm?
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Jun 2, 2020 23:03
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Mookie is approaching self parody again.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Holy loving poo poo Hopefully, no one will be so foolish as to keep doing that. Yeah, Sephiroth's copypasted in. Mookie just scribbled over his arm nub in the later comic.
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Jun 2, 2020 23:20
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....Is Arudak actually insulting/think poorly of Snout. Because those pants with that patch right in the center of the chest.... I am reminded of “here comes a special boy” shoes from Achewood.
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Jun 2, 2020 23:27
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It's either that or mookie just can't draw. I know which one I'm leaning toward.
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Jun 2, 2020 23:33
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Digital has made him so much lazier goddamn. Also are the mongrel folk Futurama sewer mutants or a thriving society mookie, make up your mind. They apparently have a sprawling utopia with parks and diners and markets, but the clothes they have are all patchwork rags and they can't spel wurds gud hyuk hyuk. he comes back to that joke/idea so much it feels like the joke is they are a degenerate society.
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Jun 2, 2020 23:53
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Mookie does not seem capable of the kind of self-examination more intelligent dog breeds do.
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Jun 3, 2020 02:33
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Credit where credit is due, one-winged guy made exactly the expression I make reading this comic.
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Jun 3, 2020 02:38
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At this point I'm just emitting a slow, unending groan
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Jun 3, 2020 04:58
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Reading this comic in real time is what I imagine it was like for goons to witness Grover construct his haus.
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Jun 3, 2020 05:05
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This poo poo is so boring that I'm actually longing for that lovely Mookie dialogue.
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Jun 4, 2020 04:29
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DamnitGannet posted:This poo poo is so boring that I'm actually longing for that lovely Mookie dialogue. I feel like the dialogue and the fact there was a (terrible) plot is what made Dominic Deegan 'better' (IE more fun to mock) than this. Like, really, the big charm of Ed Wood and what I feel by and large sets his films (besides Plan Nine which really is some next level poo poo) apart from other schlock of the period is how clumsy and bizarre his dialogue was. Like Bride of the Monster and Plan Nine feel like they were written by aliens who only sort of understood Human social interactions. Every line and every 'plot' development in Dominic Deegan was stupid and/or offensive. There was always something entertaining going on, by and large, with only a few of the more wretched arcs being genuinely dull. So far, with a few shining exceptions, this nonsense has all just been dull. The biggest reason is probably the fact nothing resembling a plot has yet emerged, but I also feel like even without one, it still could have been entertainingly awful if we just had dialogue.
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Jun 4, 2020 04:37
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The strip was always bad but everything involving Mongreltown has made it worse. They've eliminated all stakes, all conflict, the search for the meaning of the disappearance of Dominic Deegan and the End of Prophecy is now some weird images in a book they found at a porno shop. That's it. That's what's happening. That's ALL that is happening.
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Jun 4, 2020 05:21
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Mookie is simply out of ideas, if he started with any. This was a Patreon goal or something, right? Is he beholden to a certain number of strips?
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Kavak posted:Mookie is simply out of ideas, if he started with any. This was a Patreon goal or something, right? Is he beholden to a certain number of strips? It was a patreon goal he missed. Also his partner in star powered stated that Mookie is doing this to try and bolster his income since star power is ending. He's just doing this on inertia now.
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The Little Death posted:It was a patreon goal he missed. Also his partner in star powered stated that Mookie is doing this to try and bolster his income since star power is ending. He's just doing this on inertia now. Oh dear.
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Jun 4, 2020 06:23
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It's known he makes things up as he goes along and whatnot, but I wonder if that's true also of the basic premise of this comic. Like does Mookie know, or even at the very least have a handful of potential ideas he can be ultimately build towards - what actually happened to Dominic Deegan? Or are we getting the ever successful and always satisfying Lost/Battlestar Galactica/JJ Abrams style story where you have a central mystery that the writers haven't an inkling the answer to.
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Jun 4, 2020 06:28
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It also helped that Dominic Deegan's update schedule was 5 days a week. So the dull moments at least moved onward.
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Jun 4, 2020 06:40
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We're nearly a year in and there's no stakes. The closest thing we have to an antagonist is the combined idiocy of Snout, Arudak, and [Name Unknown] who, for no reason apparent to the reader, all value Snout's opinions even though he's Jar Jar Binks.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:It's known he makes things up as he goes along and whatnot, but I wonder if that's true also of the basic premise of this comic. Like does Mookie know, or even at the very least have a handful of potential ideas he can be ultimately build towards - what actually happened to Dominic Deegan? Or are we getting the ever successful and always satisfying Lost/Battlestar Galactica/JJ Abrams style story where you have a central mystery that the writers haven't an inkling the answer to. Improvisation isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Mookie doesn't know how to keep a story moving along. The old rule of when the action slows down, two guys show up with guns may be a cheap tactic, but it's something.
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PoptartsNinja posted:We're nearly a year in and there's no stakes. The closest thing we have to an antagonist is the combined idiocy of Snout, Arudak, and [Name Unknown] who, for no reason apparent to the reader, all value Snout's opinions even though he's Jar Jar Binks. Yeah, that's a pickle isn't it. I think we're suppose to be wondering which of these two Snout can trust, Ink Witch or Arudak. But um. I don't know what they disagree with, because it's a nebulous thing that involves "Deegan". Which frankly as you said is not enough to carry a story.
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It’s impossible to really detect a pattern here, because we’ve only just now gotten to the very, very beginning of the story: -Two competing witches are seeking a “dream realm”, written about in a book. -Because her magic isn’t working properly, the first witch recruits a local idiot to be her sidekick. -The idiot convinces the witches to work together. That’s the entire plot, so far. But, narratively, it’s obviously completely unintelligible. Like, we now know that there is no underlying mystery as to why the witch was all beat up at the start. That was just meant to be her powers glitching. In fact, it turns out, everything the witch has done has been completely random for this reason. Blowing up Snout’s house was a glitch, crash landing in the field was a glitch, etc.. Her only purposeful actions have been to ask Snout to find her book, and then to follow him to this town. Of course, this means that all the stuff about tracking down the ship was a bunch of bullshit filler. Like, moreso than we suspected at the time. If Snout has just found her holding the “dream realm” book at the very start, nothing would have been lost aside from some very meagre characterization. (Snout’s adequate at sewing!)
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Also some vague insinuations that Dominic started some kind of cult?
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There's also no convincing personal reason for Snout to care about any of this. There's no personal stake in the legacy or the dream realms or whatever. He just saw a scrap of paper with Dominic's name on it, and became fixated on it for no other reason than because Dom is important to Mookie he must be important to everyone else.
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Zerilan posted:There's also no convincing personal reason for Snout to care about any of this. There's no personal stake in the legacy or the dream realms or whatever. He just saw a scrap of paper with Dominic's name on it, and became fixated on it for no other reason than because Dom is important to Mookie he must be important to everyone else. Probably the biggest issue with Terracianno’s storytelling is the extreme redundancy. It’s not just that things are overexplained, but that we’re given multiple conflicting explanations. I noted this long ago, but the only reason the witch shows up at Snout’s door all bloodied, and then gets abducted, is so that she can serve as a typical femme fatale character. It’s to make Snout intrigued by her and drawn into this dangerous mystery while she (probably) manipulates him. But, at the same time, we’re shown that Snout would gladly risk his life to find the “dream realm” by himself, because of his curious need to exhaustively research the history and origins of his local library. The witch ends up not being in any danger at all - and, when she suddenly reappears, they spend days together barely communicating. Their interactions are totally asexual in a way that’s only highlighted by the nudity: they don’t mind being nude together because there’s zero attraction. She’s more motherly than anything at this point, giving Snout some spending money to go buy candy or whatever. Another example of redundancy is when the characters have to piece together a bunch of clues in order to find... a mass-market paperback containing information that both witches are already familiar with. So the two witches actually knew all along what they were looking for: the ability to predict the future. And Snout is, presumably, going along with them because the rich philanthropist might have left behind some other treasure? SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jun 4, 2020 |
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 Okay, hold on just a minute...why the gently caress would Snout, who was JUST here and tried a remedy that both didn't work and was disgusting...Bring his friend to the SAME SHOP and let him drink another remedy with no warning? This doesn't even BEGIN to add up???
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Maxwell Lord posted:Improvisation isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Mookie doesn't know how to keep a story moving along. The old rule of when the action slows down, two guys show up with guns may be a cheap tactic, but it's something. Oh, I agree. But I do feel that in general, and definitely when your story is predicated upon some manner of mystery/question, that the author should have at least some inkling of where the story is going. Like it doesn't have to be a definitive answer, but at the very least I feel like if Mookie were even a semi-competent writer he should either know what happened to Dominic or have a handful of potential fates to pick from. Like there's definitely a middle ground between chaos reigns and Babylon 5.
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Aha, but you see, this is referencing something that happened in a previous strip. Therefore, it has continuity!
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Does Arudak have chronic pain from an injury? Is that why he walks with a cane and hunched over and wears a cloak? Does he have scars or wounds from his fight with inkwich or others of her order? Did Snout instead hurt his back just now with his mental handicap strength? Is that a power Snout has demonstrated before? (no) Was this whole scene taking place right next to the apothecary who was standing just out of frame? Did Snout teleport them there? Did they run back between panels 3 and 4? Why isn't the apothecary angry with Snout for stealing one of her potions and running off without paying? This happened like 30 seconds ago. Is she blind because she has an old bra on her head? No points for guessing that the label will peel off and underneath it'll be a label for the diarrhea one. RoboChrist 9000 posted:Oh, I agree. But I do feel that in general, and definitely when your story is predicated upon some manner of mystery/question, that the author should have at least some inkling of where the story is going. Like it doesn't have to be a definitive answer, but at the very least I feel like if Mookie were even a semi-competent writer he should either know what happened to Dominic or have a handful of potential fates to pick from. Like there's definitely a middle ground between chaos reigns and Babylon 5. There is a difference between improvisation and not knowing what your payoff is when you're doing paint-by-the-numbers payoff-based writing. When you're writing a whodunit potboiler, it's important that the writer know the criminal's identity at the beginning so they can properly leave clues and have the bad guy behave in a fashion that makes logical sense and upon a second reading will still be a reasonable way for them to act. When you begin with a main plot that is reliant on you having a point in mind like this, like the writers of "Lost" or "Heroes" but don't bother to figure it out before you muddle on forwards, it creates a number of obvious problems. That's what mookie's doing. Dominic is very clearly still alive and jacking off in the swamps of Dagobah surrounded by hordes of identical descendants spawned from Luna's enchanted dragon ball eggs who interbred with his grad students. He will also have grown a long, smelly beard so he can tutor Snout in the art of being a seer even though he lost his second sight at the end of the original comic. No one will question this and Dominic will give no explanation. There is no loving way mookie would kill off his self insert, even if it requires him inexplicably living for more than 200 years.
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Drunk Theory posted:It also helped that Dominic Deegan's update schedule was 5 days a week. So the dull moments at least moved onward. This definitely would not seem as bad with more updates, it's true.
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Jun 4, 2020 20:05
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I'm surprised that someone hasn't added dialogue to this comic to make it more enjoyable.
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RandomPauI posted:I'm surprised that someone hasn't added dialogue to this comic to make it more enjoyable. Why should we work harder on this comic than mookie?
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