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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



So I hope I'm not the only person who is constantly confused by at least some of the references in each riff. I figure they're mostly just comments on movies or TV shows I never saw as well as past current events I've forgotten about. Sometimes I'll Google it in hopes of finding out what it means.

But one that really mystifies me is in Independence Day at the start of the climax with the counterattack. General guy says don't fire until the package has been delivered and Kevin says "Wait, break off the engagement. We've just learned the old penny in the jar thing IS true."

I can't even begin to guess what this is in reference to.

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ringu0
Feb 24, 2013


Could be this:

quote:

You might want to take a second glance at all those pennies you have lying around. According to Little Things, a few World War II era pennies still in circulation are worth around $85,000.

Basically https://www.google.com/search?q=old+penny+in+the+jar

But, yes, I think being confused by the references is an integral part of MST3K/RiffTrax experience

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Another Kickstarter thing, if you backed above $15 you get another gift card for $3.99. You have to go to the Backerkit survey again but it will then apply to your account.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

NikkolasKing posted:

So I hope I'm not the only person who is constantly confused by at least some of the references in each riff. I figure they're mostly just comments on movies or TV shows I never saw as well as past current events I've forgotten about. Sometimes I'll Google it in hopes of finding out what it means.

But one that really mystifies me is in Independence Day at the start of the climax with the counterattack. General guy says don't fire until the package has been delivered and Kevin says "Wait, break off the engagement. We've just learned the old penny in the jar thing IS true."

I can't even begin to guess what this is in reference to.

That's gotta be rough. If you're not really familiar with movies, TV, and American pop culture since the 50's, that has to be hard.

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

NikkolasKing posted:

But one that really mystifies me is in Independence Day at the start of the climax with the counterattack. General guy says don't fire until the package has been delivered and Kevin says "Wait, break off the engagement. We've just learned the old penny in the jar thing IS true."

There's an old joke that if you put a penny in a jar every time you have sex in your first year of marriage and then take one out every time you have sex after the first year, you'll die of old age before the jar is empty.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

ringu0 posted:

But, yes, I think being confused by the references is an integral part of MST3K/RiffTrax experience

And the guys and girls would absolutely write jokes for themselves, which is where you get all the references to Circle Pines from (where Mary Jo grew up, I believe).

Barudak
May 7, 2007

The rifftrax writers skew way younger so theres a lot less "rat patrol: in color" except when its a joke about how they used to say "rat patrol: in color" which is stupidly meta.

I feel like basically every film gas a callback to another film, or in the case of any film with a helicopter an extended like 6 or 7 movie cross riffer running joke.

Edit: or the inside joke nobody was intended to get about mikes girlfriend stealing a keyboard

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Yeah, I do think Sean and Conor (and the others) are the reasons we got stuff like GamerGate references like in The Wizard. I'd say video games references in general but do not underestimate Mike Nelson's love for Super Mario Brothers 3.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Dawgstar posted:

Yeah, I do think Sean and Conor (and the others) are the reasons we got stuff like GamerGate references like in The Wizard. I'd say video games references in general but do not underestimate Mike Nelson's love for Super Mario Brothers 3.

I guess I don't really know too much about their personal lives but stuff like references to Half-Life or Solid Snake just make me roll my eyes because I am very dubious of their knowledge of video games and their protagonists.


Action Jacktion posted:

There's an old joke that if you put a penny in a jar every time you have sex in your first year of marriage and then take one out every time you have sex after the first year, you'll die of old age before the jar is empty.

Oh wow, never heard that one. Neat.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

NikkolasKing posted:

I guess I don't really know too much about their personal lives but stuff like references to Half-Life or Solid Snake just make me roll my eyes because I am very dubious of their knowledge of video games and their protagonists.

Yeah there's nothing worse than stolen gamer valor :jerkbag:

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IT LIKE! YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO HAVE TO CHOOSE NOT CHILLING WITH YOUR BEST FRIEND BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST ONE STAGE AWAY FROM THE ENDBOSS!
:cry:

The faces of all the NPCs I've failed to escort haunt me in my sleep!I
How could I ever face my famil again, knowing I'm no good at those jump scares!?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I was never able to beat Super Mario Brothers.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Yeah there's nothing worse than stolen gamer valor :jerkbag:

No, it's about sticking to what you know.

If I tried to make jokes about sports, it would be equally eyeroll inducing and trying too hard. These guys are way smarter and know more than I ever will, they can make use of that.

But hey, maybe they are all super big gamers, I dunno. I just never got that impression.

NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Jun 6, 2020

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
How dare the RiffTrax dudes present themselves as knowledgeable about something as arcane as video games. They're obviously fake gamer scum.

Because, what, normies don't play video games? What the hell point do you think you have?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Oh no, someone said something vaguely gatekeepy about video games, let's make the thread unreadable for at least a page to punish them for playing idiot fucker vidcons

Barudak
May 7, 2007

They do crack jokes about sports, up to cracking a joke about the fact one of their old standbys went on to win the world series thus ruining their value as the punchline.

One of the best jokes in all MST3k is "Les Steckel opens training camp" in Red Zone cuba and thats a deep cut sports joke.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Less schools, more hockey arenas, go Packers!

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

RandomPauI posted:

I was never able to beat Super Mario Brothers.

Quoted for ban

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

NikkolasKing posted:

But hey, maybe they are all super big gamers, I dunno. I just never got that impression.
Mike challenged people to deathmatches in the original Doom (on a map he made, from what I understand) at one of the MST3K conventions. And they tossed around references to Super Mario Bros, Doom, Prince of Persia, and probably more that I'm forgetting.

So maybe not huge gamers, but I'm sure there's at least some frame of reference there.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Dont forget the clip of them all playing the Krull arcade game.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

TVs Ian posted:

Mike challenged people to deathmatches in the original Doom (on a map he made, from what I understand) at one of the MST3K conventions. And they tossed around references to Super Mario Bros, Doom, Prince of Persia, and probably more that I'm forgetting.

So maybe not huge gamers, but I'm sure there's at least some frame of reference there.

Mike and Jim would also have long bouts of playing the old 688 Attack Submarine because one of the first things they did when they upgraded their computers at Best Brains was buy games for it.

tankadillo
Aug 15, 2006

I hope Bridget and Mary Jo make a video game joke in their next movie to trigger maximum gamer gatekeeping rage.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

NikkolasKing posted:

No, it's about sticking to what you know.

But hey, maybe they are all super big gamers, I dunno.

You should really try to stick to what you know, then.

tankadillo posted:

I hope Bridget and Mary Jo make a video game joke in their next movie to trigger maximum gamer gatekeeping rage.

I want a Twilight Rifftrax reboot with Bridget and Mary Jo.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



TVs Ian posted:

Mike challenged people to deathmatches in the original Doom (on a map he made, from what I understand) at one of the MST3K conventions. And they tossed around references to Super Mario Bros, Doom, Prince of Persia, and probably more that I'm forgetting.

So maybe not huge gamers, but I'm sure there's at least some frame of reference there.

Fair enough. I concede.


What are the actually best movies they've riffed? I know they've done plenty of great films but I just saw they did Alien which is one of my favorite films ever and a classic.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I'd go with Wizard of Oz, and it's one of my favorite Riffs. They also did Casablanca, but that's kindof cheating because they said they wanted to do one of the best movies as a goal, and picked that.

ringu0
Feb 24, 2013


NikkolasKing posted:

Fair enough. I concede.


What are the actually best movies they've riffed? I know they've done plenty of great films but I just saw they did Alien which is one of my favorite films ever and a classic.

You can check Oscar Winners collection: https://www.rifftrax.com/collection/oscar-winners

... and wow, they did do Alien. How is it by the way?

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
One of the recent riffs I watched had a line of dialog about being "back in town" and the joke was "something something at Dino's bar and grill". I suppose it's not a mega obscure reference and a boomer dad rock fan could come up with it but still, it's a line from a 45 year old song how many people would get it.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

https://twitter.com/VICE/status/580022563792928768

It may have been a reference to this meme

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
might also be an Achewood reference, because that song comes up very prominently in an Achewood strip, that fandom ends up in some weirdly high places at times, and that fandom has never met a joke it couldn't beat to death in record time

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Or it's just a reference to a hugely popular song from when some of the riffers were kids that's been played on the radio constantly since then. It was in a Saints Row game for gently caress's sake.

Unless :thejoke:

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017


I'd forgotten they did Jaws, which is certainly the movie out of those I revisit the most. It also reminds one of Kevin saying that what they do are really roasts instead of ribs in response to the "How could you do GOOD movies!?"

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.

Dienes posted:

I want a Twilight Rifftrax reboot with Bridget and Mary Jo.

drat, i didn’t know i needed this

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...
Tubi seems to have updated with a few different ones I hadn't seen on there before. Watched "Zindy the Swamp Boy" yesterday; have to say I have a few questions about some aspects of the plot there, but boy was it redeemed by that cracker of an ending. Wow.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I sorta want to have the Yamboa riff just to be able to prove that it is a movie that exists as something that had a big budget and that people thought was a good idea.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



ringu0 posted:

You can check Oscar Winners collection: https://www.rifftrax.com/collection/oscar-winners

... and wow, they did do Alien. How is it by the way?

I just finished it. It was alright. Granted, I don't think I've heard a riff I didn't like. It wasn't my favorite or anything but there were some quite funny moments, IMO.

Also how did I totally forget about the part in the end of the movie where Ripley gets down to her undies and has her rear end crack hanging out.... Somehow that doesn't figure into my usual talks about Ripley as a great feminist character. Bill and Kevin blamed it on Ridley Scott's dirty uncle Ernie.

Also found this, the worst 26 movies according to Riff fans
https://www.rifftrax.com/worst-movies-of-all-time

Pretty uninspired list. I know, I know, "somebody did a list on the Internet and I disagree with it." Still, I should check out the Battlefield Earth riff.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

The Casabalanca riff is genuinely really good, but it helps that its probably my favorite film.

Yambao was legitimately a big deal when it was made and features iirc the only nudity of a legend of hispanic acting ever did in film. Shame the film is very very bad.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Barudak posted:

The Casabalanca riff is genuinely really good, but it helps that its probably my favorite film.


Agree. The Year of the Cat reference(s) are my favorite, because my kids love that obscure song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bCr3H8MDfM

"you go walking through the crowd / like Peter Lorre"


e: I called it obscure but it sold over a million records. I guess I should thank my parents I wasn't raised on AM radio lite rock

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



The last few riffs I watched were okay but not great. But I adore their Matrix riff. Anaconda, Independence Day and Godzilla '98 were all movies I recall from my childhood so I wanted to see the riff but Matrix was THE movie for me when I was 12-13. i watched the VHS of it so many times. I'm glad the riff is so good.

Also the best part of Anaconda was the opening theme with that flute. Goddamn I totally forgot about that.
https://youtu.be/kt7RrrDAEfw?t=70

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Round and round Jon Voight's accent goes! Where it stops, nobody knows!

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


The best part of Anaconda was when they needed a shot and just reversed some footage, which meant that a waterfall starts flowing backwards.

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