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CommonShore posted:At the initial announcement the UFC and Reebok made buzz about fighters getting royalties. I can't remember if it was explicit in those words, but they certainly implied it. SA Forums Poster posted:When the Rebok deal was initial announced Dana "would I lie to you" White said 100% would go to the fighters. I'm not a lawyer but "Dana said or implied it at a presser" is not a contract. The Reebok deal as we now know it has a set pay structure based on number of fights fought, with very specific numbers that obviously have nothing to do with actual merchandise sales, so obviously Dana loving lied about that. He's gonna keep being able to lie about everything as long as a large percentage of the fighters in the organization (rather than just 3-5 loud dudes on Twitter) collectively demand better deals and get it in writing. Brut fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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Brut posted:I'm not a lawyer but "Dana said or implied it at a presser" is not a contract. I'm not a lawyer either, but getting paid $12,000 to fight in the biggest combat sport organization in the world is bullshit.
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Brut posted:He's gonna keep being able to lie about everything as long as a large percentage of the fighters in the organization (rather than just 3-5 loud dudes on Twitter) collectively demand better deals and get it in writing. The UFC is a monopoly. They will cut you if you try to organize.
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SA Forums Poster posted:I'm not a lawyer either, but getting paid $12,000 to fight in the biggest combat sport organization in the world is bullshit. All this stuff about fighter pay is true, but tbh it has gently caress all to do with Jon Jones, the guy who canned an entire card when he had a tantrum. I don't get why you guys are acting like he's some sort of champion of fair pay  If there's one thing he's been 100% consistent on his whole career, it's that he doesn't give one single gently caress about anyone except himself.
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SA Forums Poster posted:I'm not a lawyer either, but getting paid $12,000 to fight in the biggest combat sport organization in the world is bullshit. Yo dude that's literally what I'm saying. Absolutely nobody in this thread is saying the 12/12 situation is a good thing, I don't know who you're arguing with. Brut posted:Fighters in the UFC making 12/12 is a problem, fighters with 10+ fights in the UFC making 40/40 is a problem. SA Forums Poster posted:The UFC is a monopoly. They will cut you if you try to organize. So we're in agreement that Jon Jones should actually be the one leading a union instead of Leslie "who the gently caress?" Smith, because it will either result in a union being formed or Jon Jones being cut which seems to be what both the fans and he wants? But if he just tantrums his way in to getting more pay for himself, I still have no loving clue why anyone thinks that would trickle down to other fighters. You bet your rear end Dana would be out there saying "Look at the millions I'm having to pay Jones, if it wasn't for that, I'd be paying all the other fighters more", this would be a lie, but he'd still say it. Brut fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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I'm not arguing with anyone, just stating that every UFC fighter is underpaid. Radical 90s Wizard posted:All this stuff about fighter pay is true, but tbh it has gently caress all to do with Jon Jones, the guy who canned an entire card when he had a tantrum. The UFC canned the card. The UFC didn't have a signed fight agreement with Jon Jones. I would blame the UFC for making these cards so weak that if a main event fighter get injured, the rest of the card is so horrible it can't continue.
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UFC fans: fighters are independent contractors, if they want more money they shouldn't have signed the contract! Also UFC fans: the fighters are at fault for refusing to do things that aren't in their signed contracts!
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It's possible for Jones to be a piece of poo poo and for him taking a stand over fighter pay to be good at the same time. Maybe good can come of it. Remember, we can take a big pile of horse poo poo and use it to grow pretty pretty flowers.
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Yea he's not taking a stand over fighter pay though, he's taking a stand over Jon Jones pay.
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Fighter pay is a problem definitely and has been for years and without the fighters getting together Dana isn't going to give a poo poo about one lone voice shouting into the void unfortunately even if it is one of his biggest money makers Edit: Removed a bad joke Orange Carlisle fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Dana White might not be able to afford that third gold plated gun, and will have to cut back snorting cocaine to just twice a day if fighters get more money.Mr. Carlisle posted:Removed a bad joke I saw it, and it was a good joke.
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SA Forums Poster posted:I saw it, and it was a good joke. Appreciated, but with the (rightful) seriousness of everything going on it's probably best to err on the side of caution
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SA Forums Poster posted:The year before Strikeforce was bought by the UFC, Strikeforce was paying out 75%, then 63% during the year it was acquired. How much of that 75% was going to Fedor?
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Fighter pay is a problem definitely and has been for years and without the fighters getting together Dana isn't going to give a poo poo about one lone voice shouting into the void unfortunately even if it is one of his biggest money makers And WME won't give a poo poo either because one of the Fertitta's selling points was that the UFC pays their talent so little and they planned on keeping it that way.
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One of the UFC's biggest draws standing up to them over their bullshit pay scale is a good thing, his motivations are irrelevant.
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SA Forums Poster posted:In case you haven't been following along: Don't forget that USADA testing is considered part of that 16-18%
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Also no one got a royalty check cuz no one bought that trash.
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TheReverend posted:Also no one got a royalty check cuz no one bought that trash. Because they pulled the good ones from the store before anyone could buy them
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This is hilarious: https://twitter.com/dilletaunt/status/1181998272358932480
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love to start my salary negotiations with "not trying to be a dick"
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The Athletic let go of most or maybe all of their MMA writers, and have unlocked a lot of articles for us nonsubscribing plebes. Chuck Mindenhall’s unlocked articles https://theathletic.com/author/chuck-mindenhall/ Dundasso Creator, 10th Ring Master, Chad Dundas https://theathletic.com/author/chad-dundas/ Shaun Al Shatti also posted the graphed results of the fighter survey they just completed. https://twitter.com/shaunalshatti/status/1270061395099279363 Some cool stuff in there. According to the results: Jon Jones is the dirtiest fighter in MMA, Dana White is the biggest jerk, and the majority of the fighters support open scoring and 12/6 elbows.
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CRISPYBABY posted:love to start my salary negotiations with "not trying to be a dick" Lol. Love to hire a manager with the email “beanz4@msn.com”
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FishBowlRobot posted:Lol. Love to hire a manager with the email “beanz4@msn.com” beanz1-3@msn.com was taken, you dickhead! and if you doxx me again, and it WON'T be "beanz;" "kewl" or otherwise
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Whoever was saying Jones was just in it for himself better get their facts straight...quote:@JonnyBones
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Nierbo posted:Whoever was saying Jones was just in it for himself better get their facts straight... Meanwhile, Cowboy Cerrone does a sweet kickflip on a wakeboard on his ranch while eating some P3 snacks and sipping a Budweiser.
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https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/1270379542373269510 We will forsake our countries...we will leave our motherlands behind us and become one with this earth. We have no nation, no philosophy, no ideology. We go where we're needed, fighting not for country, not for government, but for ourselves. We need no reason to fight. We fight because we are needed. We will be the deterrent for those with no other recourse. We are soldiers without borders, our purpose defined by the era we live in. We will sometimes have to sell ourselves and services. If the times demand it, we'll be revolutionaries, criminals, terrorists. And yes, we may all be headed straight to hell. But what better place for us than this? Its our only home. Our heaven and our hell. This is Fight Island.
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I don’t wanna make the song anymore.
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beep by grandpa posted:https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/1270379542373269510 
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beep by grandpa posted:https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/1270379542373269510 
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https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1270384076508278784 4 out of 5 fights I'm in to watch. Pretty stacked https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1270389201863925760 Finally!
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I would move Volk Holloway to the August card but man 251 is stacked
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also who posted/where is the "what he means is fight island is actually a peninsula" simpsons edit?
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Can someone explain this 14/14 or 18/18 or whatever else? I have no idea what this means.
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Faustian Bargain posted:Can someone explain this 14/14 or 18/18 or whatever else? I have no idea what this means. $14,000 to show $14,000 to win
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To clarify the first number is what you get just for showing up and fighting (show money) the second number is additional money you get if you win (win bonus)
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LobsterMobster posted:also who posted/where is the "what he means is fight island is actually a peninsula" simpsons edit?
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gob bless
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:I don’t wanna make the song anymore. Was there any partial version of it?
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