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Inspector Gesicht posted:I'm not composing a serious, detailed list because then I would end up like that One Angry Gamer guy and his "Traitors of America" list. the problem with OAG isn't that he's trying to list malicious actors, it's that his definition of "malicious actor" is batshit insane and basically means anyone who has good opinions. meanwhile, your definition is people who have uniquely bad opinions and/or have done really heinous poo poo, so if you made a list it would actually have some value beyond being a subject of mockery.
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Probably the most sexual thing I've seen from Sanderson is a country girl and a sheltered, naive god-king attempting to mate for the sole purpose of bearing a child for the ruling party of the kingdom and it's written to be every bit as awkward and clumsy as you might imagine. Also the fact that Lucahjin of all people is on OAG's hit list is hilarious beyond belief.
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:00 |
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Everyone should really just read Tolkien and then never any other fantasy work
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:21 |
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Nah I like Sanderson better. It’s more fun with less racism to boot
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:25 |
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hard counter posted:the green berets does stand out as awful propaganda and despite being a giant rear end in a top hat irl, john wayne probably isn't the best overall example tho - looking at his career as a whole anyway He made Rio Bravo in response to High Noon, which he considered to be anti-American propaganda.
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:30 |
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Was it Terry Goodkind or Piers Anthony that had the book where the main character is tortured by the dominatrix with the magical pain fuckstick? I remember they turned the series into a show, but I'm not googling any of those combinations of words.
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:43 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Everyone should really just read The Hobbit and then never any other Tolkien work
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:43 |
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christmas boots posted:He made Rio Bravo in response to High Noon, which he considered to be anti-American propaganda. it's a weird little story tbh, high noon made wayne so mad he furiously wrote editorials for a while and sent several personal letters to fred zinnemann, the man who directed high noon, telling him how un-american the movie was and that it made him feel sick to his stomach - the fact that high noon was also critically acclaimed eventually made john wayne so super, duper, trump-on-twitter mad he made rio bravo as a kind of take-down of the awful, awful ideas found in high noon what did high noon do that made wayne so angry? an ex-sheriff had to postpone retirement to deal with a gang by himself because he failed to rally the community around him to form a posse, and ultimately he had to be saved by his pacifistic quaker wife, meaning the ex-sheriff was essentially abandoned by his fellow citizens... that's it, that's apparently the most un-american thing ever put on film the weird thing is, rio bravo was not an incoherent mess like you'd think it would be given it was made in meteoric anger, it ultimately came to be nearly - but not quite - as well-received as high noon
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:54 |
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That last sentence fragment is the best part. I hope all the reviews said "Rio Bravo: Almost, but not quite as good as, High Noon"
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:57 |
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hyperhazard posted:Was it Terry Goodkind or Piers Anthony that had the book where the main character is tortured by the dominatrix with the magical pain fuckstick? I remember they turned the series into a show, but I'm not googling any of those combinations of words. Goodkind
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 21:57 |
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what about Samuel R Delany I liked Dhalgren
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 22:01 |
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hard counter posted:
John Wayne posted:“High Noon (1952) was the most un-American thing I have ever seen in my whole life. The last thing in the picture is ol' Coop [Gary Cooper] putting the United States marshal's badge under his foot and stepping on it. I'll never regret having run [screenwriter Carl Foreman] out of this country”
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 22:19 |
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Remember when John Wayne portrayed a soldier in the pictures while actual soldiers from many countries were being killed by nazis? never ever forget that
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 22:29 |
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verbal enema posted:what about Samuel R Delany Unfortunately, he's defended pedophilia in gay relationships and NAMBLA. Seems more like personal trauma than gross philosophy but uh, still yikes.
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 22:32 |
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the_steve posted:Yeah, Mr. Floppy. Im two pages back but isn't this the movie that ends with implied Bigfoot rape? Or is that a different Bigfoot found footage movie?
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 22:33 |
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Is Dean Koontz a white supremacist or a chill guy?
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 22:37 |
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Pieces of Peace posted:Unfortunately, he's defended pedophilia in gay relationships and NAMBLA. Seems more like personal trauma than gross philosophy but uh, still yikes. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Im looking at Kidd and Denny's relationship much differently
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 22:38 |
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John Wayne played Ghenghis Khan. So there's that.
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 23:52 |
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Torquemada posted:This made me check something, and yep, ‘Song Of The South’ has people on IMDB clamouring for a re-release. It has 93 ‘10’ scores, from people who don’t see what the problem is, against 6 scores of 3 or below. They do sell Song of the South, just not in the US. I saw a DVD of it on sale at my local bookstore, and took a picture of it, which is somewhere on my phone from a couple years ago.
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# ? Jun 10, 2020 23:55 |
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The only fantasy we need is "Wizard People, Dear Reader" and if you don't agree then I wish you luck on not hating your parents for mixing up such an unthinkable person.
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GoutPatrol posted:They do sell Song of the South, just not in the US. I saw a DVD of it on sale at my local bookstore, and took a picture of it, which is somewhere on my phone from a couple years ago. It was sold on VHS in Europe and on laserdisc in Japan (which I bought about 30 years ago). Any DVD of the movie you see will be a PAL conversion unless I missed something.
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Len posted:Im two pages back but isn't this the movie that ends with implied Bigfoot rape? Or is that a different Bigfoot found footage movie? I didn't think so, but I looked it up and: the woman's boyfriend gets killed, she's dragged through the woods and dropped off in front of a naked human lady. It's all very jumbled and quick and honestly I must have blinked when I watched because I missed the naked human lady So make of that what will you. Mister Kingdom posted:John Wayne played Ghenghis Khan. So there's that. and it was filmed on a nuclear test site, and like 80% of the people who worked on it died of horrible cancers
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 00:18 |
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Toshimo posted:Goodkind yeah uh the stuff on that woman tells me they were already laying the ground work for the s&m stuff later, you don't SEE neck corsets like that outside of kink circles and high fashion e: i said this and totally missed the whole holding a guy on a leash thing, lol
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 00:19 |
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WaywardWoodwose posted:The only fantasy we need is "Wizard People, Dear Reader" and if you don't agree then I wish you luck on not hating your parents for mixing up such an unthinkable person. it does a wonderful job of letting you watch a better version of harry potter without having to read words written by jk rowling
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 00:29 |
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ookiimarukochan posted:On the plus side he has some Good views on racism / transphobia, on the minus side I think it's been a good 40 years since he last wrote a book that didn't have a sexy child on the prowl for an adult man. He's a pedophile, OP.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 01:05 |
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Arivia posted:yeah uh In the book, she uses a dildo that is also a taser (that was used by that dude's dad to train her to be a slave so that she could then be a dominatrix) to magically make people her BDSM slaves, no matter how powerful a wizard they are (that dude is The Most Powerful Everything Who Is Always Right). She always wears it around her neck (the dude's dad has a palace full of the dildo-taser dommes; they also wear blood-red leather so that the blood doesn't show when they hurt people). Goodkind is, I cannot stress this enough, hosed up. The saving grace of the show, apparently (haven't seen it), is that they realized that Goodkind was hosed up and decided to just go over-the-top with it and made it silly and entertaining instead of being a faithful adaptation of the books. Fifty Farts has a new favorite as of 02:08 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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I'm reading a book about weird theater kid space erotica in scifi wifi and I was sort of down on the sex weirdness but it's so quaint compared to what I remember mainstream genre fiction sex weirdness is so I'm sorry for being down on the sex weirdness in that book. i am truly sorry.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 02:13 |
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Eh! Frank posted:Where would Ray Bradbury be on this list? He's pretty much my favorite author and I don't remember if I've heard anything really bad or controversial about him, but I probably missed something. I seem to remember he supported GWB, or at least he got excited when Bush said something about wanting to send astronauts to Mars, and got upset that Michael Moore copied the name of one of his books when he came up with the name "Fahrenheit 9/11" (a man with books titled "Something Wicked This Way Comes" and "I Sing The Body Electric" getting angry at somebody evoking a title from a work by another writer...). Bradbury wrote The Other Foot, which appeared in The Illustrated Man. The story was that Mars had been colonized by Black settlers. After encountering a spaceship of white settlers, they go Jim Crow on their rear end. But after discussing it among themselves, they drop that because the Black settlers aren't terrible people and believe that everyone should be treated equally. The Illustrated Man was published in 1951, when separate but equal was still legal so it was a decently bold statement. I Sing the Body Electric includes the Tomorrow's Child. When a couple's child is born different - it's Bradbury, so different is a blue pyramid with tentacles - the parents worry about it being accepted by society. So they transform themselves into blue pyramids with tentacles. They'll never be accepted by society, but their child now has beings like itself.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 02:17 |
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Harlan Ellison is a weird case because his fiction is really progressive and inclusive and obviously the result of his deeply held views, but the man was a lunatic creep with major anger issues.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 02:22 |
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Ellison obviously had some pretty big personal demons, but, at least according to the producer of the game adaptation of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, was a decent guy if you got to know him. I get the impression Ellison's biggest thing was severe social anxiety given he was such a recluse.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 02:35 |
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beats for junkies posted:In the book, she uses a dildo that is also a taser (that was used by that dude's dad to train her to be a slave so that she could then be a dominatrix) to magically make people her BDSM slaves, no matter how powerful a wizard they are (that dude is The Most Powerful Everything Who Is Always Right). She always wears it around her neck (the dude's dad has a palace full of the dildo-taser dommes; they also wear blood-red leather so that the blood doesn't show when they hurt people). Goodkind can’t help being depraved, he’s English
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 03:00 |
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beats for junkies posted:Goodkind is, I cannot stress this enough, hosed up. IIRC, Goodkind hated the tv show so much he likened it to watching his daughter get sexually assaulted. Like, he literally tried to draw a line connecting these two things. So yeah, Terry has some issues. Plus he's a grade a douchebag.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 03:01 |
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Bradbury wrote The Other Foot, which appeared in The Illustrated Man. The story was that Mars had been colonized by Black settlers. After encountering a spaceship of white settlers, they go Jim Crow on their rear end. But after discussing it among themselves, they drop that because the Black settlers aren't terrible people and believe that everyone should be treated equally. Sorry, it's 2020 and we can't have anything nice. quote:How does the story of Fahrenheit 451 stand up in 1994? darkwasthenight has a new favorite as of 04:06 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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darkwasthenight posted:Sorry, it's 2020 and we can't have anything nice. for once for once for like literally once in ever online this is actually an appropriate time to apply death of the author
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 04:09 |
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Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 because he hated television
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 04:43 |
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Bradbury wrote The Other Foot, which appeared in The Illustrated Man. The story was that Mars had been colonized by Black settlers. After encountering a spaceship of white settlers, they go Jim Crow on their rear end. But after discussing it among themselves, they drop that because the Black settlers aren't terrible people and believe that everyone should be treated equally. darkwasthenight posted:Sorry, it's 2020 and we can't have anything nice. It's just really hosed up, because this is the same guy who published Way in the Middle of the Air in 1950. Four years before The Hanging Stranger, and way more explicit.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 05:00 |
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the_steve posted:IIRC, Goodkind hated the tv show so much he likened it to watching his daughter get sexually assaulted. I think that reaction just proves my earlier assumption is correct: that the show is good and fun and entertaining, and not a faithful adaptation of the books, which are none of those things.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 05:31 |
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beats for junkies posted:I think that reaction just proves my earlier assumption is correct: that the show is good and fun and entertaining, and not a faithful adaptation of the books, which are none of those things. Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, coming from him that's a ringing endorsement. I was just mentioning that he picked the absolute worst possible way to phrase the fact that he doesn't like it.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 05:41 |
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I quit it after season 2 but I think everything about Veronica Mars rape is just bad and it's weird how the show wants you to pitty the characters involved.
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# ? Jun 11, 2020 05:51 |
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Mister Kingdom posted:John Wayne played Ghenghis Khan. So there's that. They filmed this in a nuclear test site and everyone got cancer iirc
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