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I took a phone call in a call center from Buff Bagwell's wife because he was looking for health insurance. The one time my wrestling knowledge helped since I informed her his broken neck would be considered a pre-existing condition that would probably disqualify him. Then I got yelled at for saying that. From my boss, not from Buff Bagwell's wife.
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Buff Bagwell is one of those guys who sucked but was far more entertaining than 99% of whatever happened in wrestling after WCW died.
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Animal-Mother posted:Buff Bagwell is one of those guys who sucked but was far more entertaining than 99% of whatever happened in wrestling after WCW died. Buff didn't suck, though, especially before his neck injury. He'd be in the top half of current WWE workers today, most likely, and top tier as far as character work, but that's mainly because WWE doesn't train half the guys properly.
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Buff Bagwell is basically a human muppet, which is one of the most important skills a wrestler can possess.
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Jun 10, 2020 23:08
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I didn't get to see any WCW at the time but I got a video of Spring STampede I think it was? Scott Steiner was there with Buff in his Stupid loving Hat and I swear, Buff was the star of the show to me.
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Von Linus posted:I didn't get to see any WCW at the time but I got a video of Spring STampede I think it was? Scott Steiner was there with Buff in his Stupid loving Hat and I swear, Buff was the star of the show to me. A competent company could have got a lot mileage out of Buff back in the day, probably
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Jun 11, 2020 13:22
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Few wrestlers have mugged for the camera with such perfect cheese as Buff did.
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"Vicious and Delicious" was a sick tag team name too.
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I HATED buff for decades until I figured out he was the only one having the time of his life and being open about it. If Buff was like "gently caress this, just going through the motions," you knew poo poo was bad.
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coconono posted:I HATED buff for decades until I figured out he was the only one having the time of his life and being open about it. If Buff was like "gently caress this, just going through the motions," you knew poo poo was bad. "Hey Vince!! Did I do a good JOB for you???????"
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Jun 11, 2020 15:28
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is Buff the biggest WCW star to go absolutely nowhere in WWE?
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Seams posted:is Buff the biggest WCW star to go absolutely nowhere in WWE? Buff or Jeff Jarrett. Tho Jeff's a little more complicated because of the existing animosity between the Jarretts and the McMahons everyone swears doesn't exist.
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Jun 11, 2020 15:34
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Seams posted:is Buff the biggest WCW star to go absolutely nowhere in WWE? Arguably Sting
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Jeff Jarrett had a couple of decent (in terms of time if nothing else) mid-card runs in WWE. Sting would've been the one until a few years ago, but he's been in a main-event angle and showpiece Mania match.
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Jun 11, 2020 16:12
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who lasted longer, Buff or Kronik
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does dusty count as a wcw guy
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coconono posted:Buff or Jeff Jarrett. Tho Jeff's a little more complicated because of the existing animosity between the Jarretts and the McMahons everyone swears doesn't exist. wasn't there also the story that Buff pissed everyone off behind the scenes when he went to the WWF, which was compounded by the rumor that Judy Bagwell kept calling the office to ask about her son's push?
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Who's the biggest WWE guy with the least successful WCW run?
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iamsosmrt posted:Who's the biggest WWE guy with the least successful WCW run? HHH or Undertaker, probably? Edit: Edge was also there for a hot minute, I think.
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iamsosmrt posted:Who's the biggest WWE guy with the least successful WCW run? Bret Hart. Given that he was loving WWF Champion and coming off the heat of the screwjob, compared to what they did with him over his run...almost a complete waste. Honky Tonk Man was such a pain in the rear end he got himself fired super quick even though he was a friend of Hogan. Jake the Snake got himself fired after a single PPV as well. Tato fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jun 11, 2020 |
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Troy Queef posted:wasn't there also the story that Buff pissed everyone off behind the scenes when he went to the WWF, which was compounded by the rumor that Judy Bagwell kept calling the office to ask about her son's push? I dunno how much of that is true and how much of it is the Anti-Buff Agenda.
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coconono posted:who lasted longer, Buff or Kronik I want to say Kronik, because at least they had an angle and a match that was built up for PPV, even if it was so bad that it got them sacked. Buff's match with Booker was announced out of nowhere at the start of the Raw it main evented, and the only other thing I remember him doing in WWE was be part of a mob of random WCW midcarders who got to beat up Shane and Booker at the end of the following Smackdown. The beginning of the Invasion was so bizarre and will never not be perversely interesting to me.
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iamsosmrt posted:Who's the biggest WWE guy with the least successful WCW run? How about Tugboat/Typhoon becoming the Shockmaster?
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I found out not too long ago that the reason Undertaker was let go from WCW was because the head booker at the time (it was either Ole or Bill Watts) thought someone with red hair couldn't get over. Fucken lol And I don't think I'd count Jeff Jarrett as a WCW guy failing to get over in WWE because the WWF was where he made his first run on the national stage.
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Yeah biggest WWE guy going nowhere in E: lol WCW, had to be Bret
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I should've qualified my question with jumping from WWF to WCW as opposed to guys like Taker or HHH. Bret's probably the best answer and Ed Leslie's probably the inverse answer of shittiest WWF guy who ended up main eventing WCW's top show. Edit: then again, Bret was at least a top level guy, even if he was misused. Was Tug Boat a big deal in the Fed during this run? I remember seeing him as a kid and thinking he was the Hulkster's goofy looking sidekick during that Earthquake feud.
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Ed Leslie main eventing anything was a collective fever dream.
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coconono posted:Ed Leslie main eventing anything was a collective fever dream. that match was better than Cena/Miz lol
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Shoutout to the Booty Babe tho.
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Bootyman not starting a tag team with Mr. rear end was the biggest missed opportunity of the Invasion
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Tugboat was never pushed much harder than jobber to the stars in WWE (he was the guy who would beat the Dino Bravos of the world, get built up as kind of a threat, and then be murdered by Earthquake and Undertaker). At least as a singles guy, the Natural Disasters were treated better
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holy poo poo, I was literally at this. I was confused as all hell at the time. I went to a couple of WCW tapings in my late teens and this was by far the weirdest. I definitely signed up for a Sting-themed capital one credit card at one which kind of ruined my credit for a couple of years, because I was 18 and didn't understand it wasn't a free money card, but I don't think it was this one. although I probably did buy tickets and lodging for this event on that self-same card. I kind of wish I still had it now. man, WCW was truly cursed, and I still love it.
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The Breakfast Sampler posted:holy poo poo, I was literally at this. I was confused as all hell at the time. I went to a couple of WCW tapings in my late teens and this was by far the weirdest. There were five total and goddamn do I wish I had the Buff Bagwell credit card https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br4vMhgaBjY
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It's been ages since Sting retired, but when Cody did Sting's hands-to-his-mouth WHOOOOOOOOOO before doing a Stinger splash a couple weeks back made me nostalgic as gently caress. Sting was always my favorite.
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Animal-Mother posted:Buff Bagwell is one of those guys who sucked but was far more entertaining than 99% of whatever happened in wrestling after WCW died.
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Halloween Jack posted:I hated Bagwell back in the day, which makes me appreciate him now. I thought I wasn't a mark. You got worked into a shoot, brother. Happens to the best of us.
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coconono posted:Buff or Jeff Jarrett. Tho Jeff's a little more complicated because of the existing animosity between the Jarretts and the McMahons everyone swears doesn't exist. Buff, easily. Jarrett already had a solid body of work as a midcarder. I see Sting got mentioned as well, but at least he was treated as a big deal special attraction, and probably would have worked a few more matches were it not for an injury. The better question would be "who got the worse on-air send-off? Buff or Jarrett?" Buff got the poo poo knocked out of him by Austin and Angle and literally thrown out of an arena, while Jarrett had Vince go "he's ggoonnee."
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I mean, Jarrett did embarrassing poo poo in WWE but he had a bunch of midcard title runs and got inducted into their Hall of Fame so I'm not sure he was really held back all that much considering most agree he was overpushed in WCW and TNA. I mean maybe his natural ceiling is "transitional champ" or something but he got a better treatment from WWE than most WCW guys. I mean. Putting aside Sting and Buff and all the midcarders and all the guys who weren't hired... loving DDP. Man.
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