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THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008

kirbysuperstar posted:

Element is almost always worth it

Thanks, thats what my friend said. Think im gonna pull the trigger on it.

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Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

kirbysuperstar posted:

There's a lot of..odd mistakes, mostly in the system text ("Dagan ExterminationLeft Trial", randomly fullcaps headers in random menus, Zig's talk option making it seem like he's shouting for trades) but that one is the most bizarre by far. It has to have been transcribed from the VO because there's no other way they could have gotten that, surely.

Yeah that has to be a case of someone transcribing the VO, which admittedly does sounds a bit like "gods be operatives" (especially if you're not familiar with using godspeed for good luck).

NextTime000
Feb 3, 2011

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attacks from a weapon gain bonus atk/pwr based on their elemental %, and only the stats gained this way are treated as that element.

the basic form of the damage formula is like: ((player pwr + weapon pwr - enemy def) + (weapon pwr * element%)) * all of your damage modifiers, from attack modifiers to class skills to weapon potential and so on

only that part of weapon pwr that is multiplied by the elemental percentage will be effected by elemental weaknesses.

Techniques on the other hand; are pure elemental damage. Outside of the Elemental Conversion skill on the force tree, they do not actually benefit from weapon element %. As a result of not gaining the bonus atk that way, techs also see bigger effects from having raw atk boosts through augments and that Technique High Up skill on the force tree.

effectively it boils down to: Having max element % is the 2nd most important part of upgrading your weapon, it's 2nd only to the main + grind if only because it directly scales on that. even if it's not the "right" element, it will still boost your damage significantly

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008

NextTime000 posted:

attacks from a weapon gain bonus atk/pwr based on their elemental %, and only the stats gained this way are treated as that element.

the basic form of the damage formula is like: ((player pwr + weapon pwr - enemy def) + (weapon pwr * element%)) * all of your damage modifiers, from attack modifiers to class skills to weapon potential and so on

only that part of weapon pwr that is multiplied by the elemental percentage will be effected by elemental weaknesses.

Techniques on the other hand; are pure elemental damage. Outside of the Elemental Conversion skill on the force tree, they do not actually benefit from weapon element %. As a result of not gaining the bonus atk that way, techs also see bigger effects from having raw atk boosts through augments and that Technique High Up skill on the force tree.

effectively it boils down to: Having max element % is the 2nd most important part of upgrading your weapon, it's 2nd only to the main + grind if only because it directly scales on that. even if it's not the "right" element, it will still boost your damage significantly

Thanks for the breakdown, I wasn't sure exactly how elemental damage was applied. So yeah, 60 light seems pretty useful.

edit: Was gonna go do this real quick, but after clicking start game the process just sorta died. I restarted the launcher and OH HEY gotta download the whole game again. :doh: whatever, I've been pretty lucky with this diva rear end launcher so far

THE FUCKING MOON fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jun 11, 2020

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

What augments/affixes/whatever are worth the most money on the player market, and is there an easy way to scan my storage to see if I have them?

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I think the Might/Precision/Casting 4 augments are very popular?

Hyper Inferno
Jun 11, 2015

fadam posted:

What augments/affixes/whatever are worth the most money on the player market, and is there an easy way to scan my storage to see if I have them?

Modulator and Apprentice Soul are worth a good amount on high slot weapons/units. I believe the Flict/Arma abilities might be worth something too, but I can't check at the moment. You can search for these augments in your storage by using the top search bar.

MR. J
Nov 22, 2011

Chuck and Fuck
Is Returner a thing on here yet? Because that's like the premier "hyper-expensive, only big poopsockers go for" augment.

Skeletome
Feb 4, 2011

Tell them about the tournament!

the gods really be operative

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

MR. J posted:

Is Returner a thing on here yet? Because that's like the premier "hyper-expensive, only big poopsockers go for" augment.

It's called Veteran's Resolve now, but yes it's in.

Numberwang!!!
Jul 24, 2019

fadam posted:

is there an easy way to

lol

fadam
Apr 23, 2008


:(

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


Yeah I'm loving the gameplay but good god there are so many menus and submenus and multiple menus that do almost but not quite the same things...
Searching for anything in the player shops is just a nightmare compared to say, Guild Wars 2.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Zero VGS posted:

Is something busted with Alliance chat? No one has said anything in Vacancy Nol besides me in like 6+ hours.

I still haven't heard a peep from alliance in like 24 hours. My "display all" chat setting does have Alliance on display. I get a login message about how we moved goon block because I gave the alliance Karona. It's still really weird no see noone in Vacancy Nol chatting.

What should I do next to improve my gear (I don't use the dual blades, ignore those)?:

Frush
Jun 26, 2008
Ok, this solo story Magatsu quest is *super* bullshit. Is there something to this that I'm missing? I've done it as an urgent quest, but the HP scaling doesn't seem quite as well done as the other story boss fights.

Seriously, its total BS.

AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

Earlier there was some talk of what to do with items of R10+ but I have a bunch of R7 to R9 clutter - mostly weapons, as you’d likely imagine. I should probably save weapons with many or desirable augments but what about the rest?

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Frush posted:

Ok, this solo story Magatsu quest is *super* bullshit. Is there something to this that I'm missing? I've done it as an urgent quest, but the HP scaling doesn't seem quite as well done as the other story boss fights.

Seriously, its total BS.

What level are you when fighting him? If I remember correctly he's fixed to being LV75, so if you aren't at max he'll probably be a bit much

Frush
Jun 26, 2008

Saagonsa posted:

What level are you when fighting him? If I remember correctly he's fixed to being LV75, so if you aren't at max he'll probably be a bit much

I'm at Max, just trying to do various things while I get my Ranger ex-cubes to nab those last few skill points. I've got a decent 13 star weapon, I've started grinding up some transitional endgame gear. I'm using shifta/deband. I've got a reasonably high level Mag, and I'm using weak bullet. I've tried a couple strategies, and had what I think is the most success blowing out the knees and then focus firing the face in the chest. The only other boosts I think I can grab are gathering to upgrade rings more or leveling my subclass and other classes for the class boosts, but that seems like it should be overkill and would take forever.

Frush fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jun 12, 2020

Fawf
Nov 5, 2009

It's Me, It's Me, It's DDD

Wanna give two giant middle fingers to whoever added getting a PSE burst in rappy slots a goal for the mission pass

It's been 45 minutes and I want to jump into a volcano

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.
I just open up a book and mash a button and only look up when game makes a unique noise.

Frush
Jun 26, 2008
Does the encore for the concerts actually do anything?

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
You guys. I really like PSO2 now. Finally. For the first 20 hours I played as Hunter and was having a miserable time but was trying to force myself to keep going in hopes that I would eventually feel some bit of pleasure playing it. (My only pleasure came from the casino.) For the most part, everything aside from the casino was wholly miserable. Turns out, I just really hate playing as melee in this game. Since then, I followed someone's advice and started playing Ranger and now whenever I'm not playing PSO2, I'm thinking about how much I wish I was playing PSO2. The Assault Rifle is good, but holy gently caress is the Launcher the most satisfying loving weapon. It feels good as hell to just jump into the air and then rain hell down upon countless enemies.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I like jumping into the air in a corner as a Ranger during a PSE burst and just continue firing the assault rifle constantly. Steady shot, interspersed with grenade launches, with regular shots.

It’s a really good time. Also fun is katana Braver zooming around doing katana things and Force slinging anime meteors onto dudes. Fighter can be fun too, but Hunter really seems like it’s a tank class first and an attacker second.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Alright my game had an error and crashed now I can't get it to run and probably have to do a full wipe and reinstall of this cursed thing. What do I actually have to do to uninstall this? Uninstall via the settings in Windows then find some hidden folder 60gb folder and delete it manually?

Sailor Dave
Sep 19, 2013

Frush posted:

Does the encore for the concerts actually do anything?

No, it just refreshes the triboost you get for listening the first time. It doesn't stack.

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
holy poo poo do the technical issues and age make this a hard sell. i was having fun until my computer rebooting and the patch just deciding to make my game not launch at all. but in a different way than the way i already fixed, of course. there's no way i could rec this game to someone in 2020 unless they really really like Free to Play Anime Dress-up.

Zushio
May 8, 2008
Its so wild hearing about all these issues people have. I've played for close to 30 hours now and have had 2 random disconnects, one occasion of the game not launching with an error, and one fail to launch because I didn't notice the server was down.

I am using an i7 laptop from 2011 with 16 GB of ram and a 630m GPU. I play at 1650x1080 on my external monitor with no issues whatsoever graphically, except when the lobby is packed obviously. I do use PSO Tweaker, but still, all these complaints are just wild.

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

Evil Fluffy posted:

Alright my game had an error and crashed now I can't get it to run and probably have to do a full wipe and reinstall of this cursed thing. What do I actually have to do to uninstall this? Uninstall via the settings in Windows then find some hidden folder 60gb folder and delete it manually?

Pretty much. The second part was supposed to be fixed but who knows.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Zushio posted:

Its so wild hearing about all these issues people have. I've played for close to 30 hours now and have had 2 random disconnects, one occasion of the game not launching with an error, and one fail to launch because I didn't notice the server was down.

I am using an i7 laptop from 2011 with 16 GB of ram and a 630m GPU. I play at 1650x1080 on my external monitor with no issues whatsoever graphically, except when the lobby is packed obviously. I do use PSO Tweaker, but still, all these complaints are just wild.

It's almost like PC gaming is long cursed to be "well, works for me, idk".

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


Evil Fluffy posted:

Alright my game had an error and crashed now I can't get it to run and probably have to do a full wipe and reinstall of this cursed thing. What do I actually have to do to uninstall this? Uninstall via the settings in Windows then find some hidden folder 60gb folder and delete it manually?

If it's like what happened to me there will be multiple 60GB folders to delete.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Zushio posted:

Its so wild hearing about all these issues people have. I've played for close to 30 hours now and have had 2 random disconnects, one occasion of the game not launching with an error, and one fail to launch because I didn't notice the server was down.

I am using an i7 laptop from 2011 with 16 GB of ram and a 630m GPU. I play at 1650x1080 on my external monitor with no issues whatsoever graphically, except when the lobby is packed obviously. I do use PSO Tweaker, but still, all these complaints are just wild.

Just click on the games shortcut via either your desktop, the store or the xboxapp and accidentally say no instead of yes at the admin prompt. Guaranteed it will gently caress your game.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Remember that time an update for JP had a good chance to wipe your HDD if you installed to a non-default directory/drive? Good poo poo.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Just click on the games shortcut via either your desktop, the store or the xboxapp and accidentally say no instead of yes at the admin prompt. Guaranteed it will gently caress your game.

Or in my case buy the Sonic package, then cancel it when it tries to reinstall the game and fails.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Humerus posted:

If it's like what happened to me there will be multiple 60GB folders to delete.

Yeah I just need to find those dumb folders if the recent patch didn't fix that.

I'd love to know how and why the people leading the PC launch for Microsoft never ran a goddamn beta, even a weekend stress test a month before the PC launch would've caught these issues if their internal testing never revealed "hey running this through our store is causing crippling performance issues in the lobby and that will tank the PC launch."

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

kinda funny to think if they released through steam instead it probably would've been a much cleaner launch. steam started as a totally garbage storefront/launcher app, about where the windows store is now if not worse.

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008
Also it would get a lot more exposure on steam. The windows store is something I only poke at with a stick when I absolutely have to, and that's pretty much true of everyone I know as well.

Question Time
Sep 12, 2010



Mordiceius posted:

You guys. I really like PSO2 now. Finally. For the first 20 hours I played as Hunter and was having a miserable time but was trying to force myself to keep going in hopes that I would eventually feel some bit of pleasure playing it. (My only pleasure came from the casino.) For the most part, everything aside from the casino was wholly miserable. Turns out, I just really hate playing as melee in this game. Since then, I followed someone's advice and started playing Ranger and now whenever I'm not playing PSO2, I'm thinking about how much I wish I was playing PSO2. The Assault Rifle is good, but holy gently caress is the Launcher the most satisfying loving weapon. It feels good as hell to just jump into the air and then rain hell down upon countless enemies.

Same here except in reverse. Getting ranger/hunter to 75/55 was very fun, but now that I want to main hunter up to 75, it's grinding misery. Time to take a break and play some gunner or force or something.

Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Friends 'ave fun together.
Not adding crafting till Ep 4 in August sure is a choice of some description.

Scoss
Aug 17, 2015

CYBEReris posted:

kinda funny to think if they released through steam instead it probably would've been a much cleaner launch. steam started as a totally garbage storefront/launcher app, about where the windows store is now if not worse.

When Steam was in its infancy, the only problems I remember were progress bars getting stuck and unreliable network service. I've been using it since CS 1.6 and never seen a working game break itself, or seen Steam overstep the bounds of what you expect the software to do.

The Microsoft Store, by contrast, is the closest I have ever seen a game or other "legitimate" Microsoft product behave like honest to god malware. Against all odds, they managed to create an experience even worse than GFW live. After having PSO2 break itself twice, and having to hunt down 150GB (600 thousand files) of hidden, permission-locked backup copies of the game, I will never spend a penny in the MS store, and I've become hostile to their entire vision for how software delivery and management ought to work. It's incomparable to even Steam's clumsiest missteps, IMO.

Scoss fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jun 12, 2020

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Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

Saigyouji posted:

Not adding crafting till Ep 4 in August sure is a choice of some description.

Seriously? That sucks.

https://twitter.com/play_pso2/status/1271504493939589120?s=20

drat it. I need the crafted Sacrifice Bite. I want to hit stuff with my sword from half a screen away.

Hypocrisy fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jun 12, 2020

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