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Inspector Gesicht posted:Someone in a thread said that the horses in TLOU have far too long necks and legs, while Tess is like that politician from The Thick of It in that her head is too small. The characters also looked really gaunt in the pre-rendered cinematics.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:apparently yes. Lol Also it was probably posted in this thread but quote:“I don’t want to go into specifics about it, but I saw a video of a lynching when I was much younger” Druckmann said in a GQ interview. “It was like an actual… like a news thing. And then, feeling intense hatred for the people that committed the lynching and thinking, like, ‘oh man if I could hurt these people in some horrible ways then I could.’” Now im not saying violent revenge murder is good but i think its less bad than lynchings?
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Jun 12, 2020 23:36
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ellie is morally correct to kill the dog because dog enemies loving suck rear end in video games the flashback bit is extremely lol though and feels more like it should be a dark comedy bit rather than actual serious writing
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Jun 12, 2020 23:38
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How dare you this is serious Oscar quality writing
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Jun 12, 2020 23:39
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ELLIE: [somber, dying] who... throws a shoe? seriously.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:40
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Truly we were the last of us.... Too....
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Jun 12, 2020 23:40
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Endorph posted:Lol holy poo poo, just shut up you dumbass. christ druckman
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Jun 12, 2020 23:41
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This feels like a triple a version of a newgrounds flash horror game My grody, pissstained girlfriend
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:Guys, let's refocus the topic a bit. I know we all feel very strongly about the dogs and stuff but -hear me out- what about the loving horses ?? Who missed those segments from the first game ? The horses control like rear end and add absolutely nothing of value to the game. I propose we petition ND so Ellie murders one of the horses instead of the dog. Seems only fair. There's always the DLC expansion chance. Endorph posted:Now im not saying violent revenge murder is good but i think its less bad than lynchings? I think you just scooped how the standalone multiplayer is going to work when they release it. It's a 1v100 battle royale where one player gets lynched and tortured by a mob. Score points for the most brutal and drawn-out death possible. Comes with Twitch integration.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:42
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Grapplejack posted:Truly we were the last of us.... Too....
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Jun 12, 2020 23:43
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Hwurmp posted:why is it only weird now, and why is the highly-promoted visceral and disturbing human murder on top of dog murder a point in TLoU2's favor what? i was just making the point its really weird when its the dog enemy that pushes it over the line for people and i am judging them in my head for it
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Jun 12, 2020 23:43
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Stux posted:no, even if you dont like the game its not incompetent at all and all the acting is fantastic so its not going to be like watching a david decoteau film or anything Dewgy posted:Personally I think it’s a good idea but I’d genuinely expect the “play it because it’s bad” aspect to backfire on you. Have you played the first one yet? haven't finished the first one but it came free with my ps4 when i bought it years ago, so we would be playing that one first. i figure that will be a good roadmap for how enjoyable the entire endeavor would be I played maybe 90 minutes of the first one and thought it was pretty hokey, and the 2nd one sounds insane so that's where the idea came from not trying to disrespect tlou/2 for any who genuinely like it, just describing where im at
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Jun 12, 2020 23:44
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1 is the most stock standard zombie story with good actors and dialog, it would probably be extremely difficult to mst3k it but go for it
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Jun 12, 2020 23:45
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Stux posted:what? i was just making the point its really weird when its the dog enemy that pushes it over the line for people and i am judging them in my head for it blame Naughty Dog's marketing then, for making dog enemies their biggest feature
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Jun 12, 2020 23:47
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Endorph posted:Lol Gonna go on a Scorching Hot Take here and say that kicking the rear end of members of a lynch mob is Actually Good
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ErrEff posted:It's a 1v100 battle royale where one player gets lynched and tortured by a mob. Score points for the most brutal and drawn-out death possible. Comes with Twitch integration. Also I should add that the player getting lynched is a dog. Really hitting the message home that way.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:48
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The Unnamed One posted:Gonna go on Scorching Hot Take here and say kicking the rear end of members of a lynch mob is Actually Good ok but picture this: the lynch mob...also has dogs now we're cooking with gas
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Jun 12, 2020 23:49
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Hwurmp posted:blame Naughty Dog's marketing then, for making dog enemies their biggest feature as we all know marketing and advertising departments are without fault and also to be trusted in all situations, thanks to the invisible hand of the market
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The Unnamed One posted:Gonna go on a Scorching Hot Take here and say that kicking the rear end of members of a lynch mob is Actually Good
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Jun 12, 2020 23:50
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Stux posted:1 is the most stock standard zombie story with good actors and dialog, it would probably be extremely difficult to mst3k it but go for it It’d work better with people familiar with it who like it I think. Rifftrax has proven even genuinely great movies can be spoofed, so TLOU1 could be a good time with the right people. The cutscene commentary tracks in Remastered are pretty good too.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:50
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Hwurmp posted:ok but picture this: the lynch mob...also has dogs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhkrvBNnAcw
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Jun 12, 2020 23:51
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Stux posted:as we all know marketing and advertising departments are without fault and also to be trusted in all situations, thanks to the invisible hand of the market So blame... Naughty Dog? What studio of a decent size doesn't actually talk to its leads on this? I can't think of any.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:54
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TLoU2 has been proven redundant, we can all go home
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Jun 12, 2020 23:54
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Endorph posted:I like that the anger is pasttense. He is no longer angry at the lynch mob he has a man-bun, now
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Jun 12, 2020 23:55
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dogstile posted:So blame... Naughty Dog? yeah it would be impossible for marketing to ever be misleading, especially for a video game
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Jun 12, 2020 23:55
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Stux posted:yeah it would be impossible for marketing to ever be misleading, especially for a video game Yes, but you still blame the studio. As the marketing department is part of the studio. You don't go "oh the audio sucks, lets just blame the audio people", you blame the studio. It's a collaborative effort.
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Jun 12, 2020 23:56
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Why is anyone still engaging with Stux?
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Jun 12, 2020 23:57
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Good point.
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dogstile posted:Yes, but you still blame the studio. As the marketing department is part of the studio. You don't go "oh the audio sucks, lets just blame the audio people", you blame the studio. It's a collaborative effort. i blame capitalism personally but you do you
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lynch mob bad, but what if the person being lynched... is Mussolini? I bet you feel ashamed of going against the lynch mob now huh?
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CharlestonJew posted:lynch mob bad, but what if the person being lynched... is Mussolini? I bet you feel ashamed of going against the lynch mob now huh? well yeah a little tbh
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Jun 13, 2020 00:09
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CharlestonJew posted:lynch mob bad, but what if the person being lynched... is Mussolini? I bet you feel ashamed of going against the lynch mob now huh?
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Endorph posted:Are they lynching him for joining the nazis or doing a bad job helping the nazis half from column A, half from column B they put aside their differences to lynch him together makes u think
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Stux posted:[checking my watch] ah its still weird people are drawing the line at dogs and not humans Humans have agency. Animals do not. Both are virtual, in this context, but I'm sure you can see how it would make a person feel more worse killing a creature that is literally incapable of being bad - any bad dogs, such as they are, are made so by their owners. You, as a player, are able to project insidious intent onto humanoid antagonists but are not able to with animals, especially ones that are our pets and companions. I am not saying this makes the game bad but it makes me not want to play it. I love animals and won't even hunt in games with hyper realistic animals. It makes me feel bad. Games will never be the same as movies, or be able to be evaluated the same way. I can watch a movie where a dog dies or is killed - I don't usually like to, though - but a developer forcing me to do it is somewhat perverse and just makes me hate the developer for forcing that on me. I'm just glad I know about it with this game before it happens. Noam Chomsky fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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Noam Chomsky posted:Humans have agency. Animals do not. Both are virtual, in this context, but I'm sure you can see how it would make a person feel more worse killing a creature that is literally incapable of being bad - any bad dogs, such as they are, are made so by their owners. You, as a player, are able to project insidious intent onto humanoid antagonists but are not able to with animals, especially ones that are our pets and companions. lot of words to try and justify a completely alien mindset lol
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Stux posted:lot of words to try and justify a completely alien mindset lol I'm just going to assume you understand and somewhat agree but can't engage because it would impinge on your need to fanboy this game.
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Jun 13, 2020 00:45
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no i dont agree. killing a human in abstract is worse than an animal. cool i was called a sociopath for thinking this earlier and now we have this justification lol
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Jun 13, 2020 00:48
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Stux posted:no i dont agree. killing a human in abstract is worse than an animal. cool i was called a sociopath for thinking this earlier and now we have this justification lol I think if you interrogated that and took it to its logical conclusion you would find that that to be incorrect. Many humans actively make the world a worse place. No animal does, at least not willingly, and if they do make the world a worse place - overpopulation, etc. - it's because humans have destroyed habitats and eliminated natural predators.
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Stux posted:no i dont agree. killing a human in abstract is worse than an animal. cool i was called a sociopath for thinking this earlier and now we have this justification lol Well, nobody else is defending dog killing, even if just virtually.
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qnqnx posted:Well, nobody else is defending dog killing, even if just virtually. True!
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