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galagazombie posted:It was almost bearable on the GBA games since those cartridges practically had negative load times, but now in addition to longer load times the games also have like five times as many menus to go through before you start the level. I found Awakening & Fates surprisingly snappy to get back into after a soft reset, at least. Sometimes too snappy, I'd go into the wrong file and have to do it again Awakening's "droplet" sounds are also etched into my mind
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Jun 12, 2020 19:17
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galagazombie posted:It was almost bearable on the GBA games since those cartridges practically had negative load times, but now in addition to longer load times the games also have like five times as many menus to go through before you start the level.
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Jun 12, 2020 19:19
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Hellioning posted:I'm surprised they haven't just made a new mode that automatically fails the map if any playable unit dies. They have, but it's in Fire Emblem Heroes, not the mainline games.
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Jun 12, 2020 19:27
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Amppelix posted:where's the part where they added menus? the only thing you do on the main menu in literally every fire emblem is choose load game and then your save (which by the way is automatically higlighted for you in 3H so you just mash A). the problem with 3H is that maps take a while to load, but after that you again just press start to go. You have to make sure you hit Restart Chapter and not just mash A because mashing A will bring you to the exact point you soft reset from in the GBA games. PoR also has a soft reset but the only time it saves you is that you don’t have to go through the health and safety disclaimer and all the logos. With RD I think you have to hit home and choose reset, I don’t think there’s a soft reset combo that brings you right to title.
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Jun 12, 2020 19:30
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The time saved by RD's battle save outweighs the time spent by splash title screens.
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1234567890num posted:The time saved by RD's battle save outweighs the time spent by splash title screens.
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Jun 13, 2020 00:23
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without fail, battle saves in RD always end up in making me savescum levels for characters I like. capped speed micaiah? don't mind if i do.
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Jun 13, 2020 06:16
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I just started doing a "only deploy girls when possible" run in PoR out of boredom, but I finally got the chapter where you can actually choose deployment and, well not so sure about my chances on this one I guess i've at least got all the chokepoints covered?
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Jun 13, 2020 17:54
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You also get one more girl this chapter at least? Well, good luck to the Mia corner.
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Jun 13, 2020 18:10
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I mean, Vantage never gets better than it does in PoR, so she's got that going for her at least? EDIT: Who's generally perceived as the better swordsman in PoR? I've personally never had a bad Mia whereas Zihark has mostly fought me every step of the way whenever I've played the game. Strange Matter fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jun 13, 2020 |
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Jun 13, 2020 18:13
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Well turns out that completing the chapter is pretty trivial actually, because the left side has an archer that always moves first in the unit order, and if i arrange the enemies correctly he'll step up to the front line uselessly and block everyone else from doing anything. Buuuut, that's the side with Ilyana! And i'm not about to give up an actual usable unit on this gimmick run that easily.
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Jun 13, 2020 18:32
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Amppelix posted:Well turns out that completing the chapter is pretty trivial actually, because the left side has an archer that always moves first in the unit order, and if i arrange the enemies correctly he'll step up to the front line uselessly and block everyone else from doing anything. Buuuut, that's the side with Ilyana! And i'm not about to give up an actual usable unit on this gimmick run that easily. this might be a silly question but are you using ike? i did a women only run of 7 a couple years ago and definitely allowed myself to use eliwood and hector in the first few chapters just for the sake of my sanity
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Jun 13, 2020 18:38
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Strange Matter posted:I mean, Vantage never gets better than it does in PoR, so she's got that going for her at least? I hear most people say Zihark but I always end up using Mia because I like her better and like using female units so shrug. She tends to turn out great for me, except for my currently PoR run where she’s just ok because she hasn’t hit her str growth quite enough while not missing it enough to be useless.
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Jun 13, 2020 18:44
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Looper posted:this might be a silly question but are you using ike? i did a women only run of 7 a couple years ago and definitely allowed myself to use eliwood and hector in the first few chapters just for the sake of my sanity Also: i have no idea how i would beat the game if I didn't use Ike In other news, managed to do that chapter much easier than I expected, honestly. Titania is so good that she has enough time to actually clear two sides completely by herself.
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Amppelix posted:like i said, i only care about deployment. I can't get rid of ike so of course i'm using him (and anyone else that has to come along into a chapter.) I've never cared for the style of challenge run where you have to awkwardly ignore already present units. Can Ena damage Ashnard? Or can only Nasir do that.
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Jun 13, 2020 19:29
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Whether she can or not, it doesn't really matter because even Nasir can't handle ashnard by himself and Ena has worse stats than him.
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Jun 13, 2020 20:48
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Zihark is slightly less RNG-vulnerable, so there's that.
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Jun 13, 2020 21:51
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Still going through FE7 my first run, I really liked the bit where Eliwood & crew need to get to dread island and Lynn refuses to go on the ship with the pirates because bandits/criminals killed her parents. That added a nice bit of character even though she does end up going on the pirate ship and a pirate joins your squad. I never got any subtle things like that about Chrom's character in Awakening.
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Ulio posted:Still going through FE7 my first run, I really liked the bit where Eliwood & crew need to get to dread island and Lynn refuses to go on the ship with the pirates because bandits/criminals killed her parents. That added a nice bit of character even though she does end up going on the pirate ship and a pirate joins your squad. I never got any subtle things like that about Chrom's character in Awakening. In related news, my Raven tragically did not reach 20 Str/Skill/Spd by level 16. He's only at 19 Str and 20 Skill and Spd. 
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Jun 13, 2020 22:16
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I love it when they give you a character in one of the last chapters in the game and the only way to know anything about him is to use a mediocre bishop you have no attachment to and have them support with some other characters that you may or may not have used and already have supports for. Renault was a great idea.
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Jun 13, 2020 22:37
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Ulio posted:Still going through FE7 my first run, I really liked the bit where Eliwood & crew need to get to dread island and Lynn refuses to go on the ship with the pirates because bandits/criminals killed her parents. That added a nice bit of character even though she does end up going on the pirate ship and a pirate joins your squad. I never got any subtle things like that about Chrom's character in Awakening. That said, Lyndis, Hector and Eliwood are fantastic MC's character-wise.
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Jun 13, 2020 22:42
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Renault has A rank staves and enough magic to use fortify well so he earns his place
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Amppelix posted:Well turns out that completing the chapter is pretty trivial actually, because the left side has an archer that always moves first in the unit order, and if i arrange the enemies correctly he'll step up to the front line uselessly and block everyone else from doing anything. Buuuut, that's the side with Ilyana! And i'm not about to give up an actual usable unit on this gimmick run that easily.
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Amppelix posted:Whether she can or not, it doesn't really matter because even Nasir can't handle ashnard by himself and Ena has worse stats than him. She can do it if you give her Resolve + Wrath. Not as good as Ike but she 2HKOs with Wrath crits and doesn't get doubled even at base. Give her a couple levels of bonus experience and she can even double and theoretically ORKO. Second form is a bit rougher but doable plus you have the Laguz Royal to help out.
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Wark Say posted:To be fair, the fun parts of his character are locked behind DLC content. Then again, I like both Chrom and Lucina, even if they're both kinda vanilla compared to other lords. I think Chrom's arc is pretty good even in the core game. His whole bit where he hates his dad and likes how his sister runs things while being forced to grapple with the fact he's not like her and never can be. He's a Hector style lord who spends most of the game coping with the fact he's way better at fighting than diplomacy, and it's neat. The arguable climax of the arc is DLC too, but it's in the free DLC, so that's easy enough to handle.
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 Hell, Lucina is more or less the same. She can play-pretend/call herself Marth all she wants (even have her Japanese VA voice child!Marth in FEH), but she has more in common with the "rowdy"-style lord, even if it's through no fault of her own. I think she has more similitudes with Seliph than with Marth himself, as far as "level-headed"-style lords go.
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I remember appreciating Chrom a lot more on my last replay, and also appreciating Walhart basically being Chrom with more scruples than his father but less scruples than he currently has. He's meant to be a mirror or foil. Also good ol' power of friendship Chrom getting "Thief" as one of his side classes is also kind of interesting. Rowdy boy!
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Chrom doesn't get Thief though. Archer and Cavalier. I always try to make Kellam a thief but I rarely put in the work to make him useful.
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Jun 14, 2020 01:44
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How many years later and I'm still declaring it bullshit that chrom cant be a barbarian.
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daermon posted:Chrom doesn't get Thief though. Archer and Cavalier. I always try to make Kellam a thief but I rarely put in the work to make him useful. I suppose its at least a little fitting to forget Kellam so hard I put his class on Chrom
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rannum posted:I remember appreciating Chrom a lot more on my last replay, and also appreciating Walhart basically being Chrom with more scruples than his father but less scruples than he currently has. He's meant to be a mirror or foil. Also good ol' power of friendship
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Wark Say posted:I kinda wonder if Walhart feels responsible about his ancestors' big fuckup. If anything I bet he feels Rudolf was a failure and Alm didn't go far enough in his methods
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Jun 14, 2020 03:50
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So adding Roy to Awakening as a proper character has gone swimmingly.
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rannum posted:If anything I bet he feels Rudolf was a failure and Alm didn't go far enough in his methods  Alm: "We literally killed a god, beat the seven hells out of another one enough to send it to sleep for a millenia..." Celica: "... Not to mention establishing a continent-wide kingdom that enjoyed a mostly-peaceful period that lasted for almost as long!" Walhart: NOT ENOUGH!Alm & Celica:  
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Wark Say posted:
Walhart: if :clap: you :clap: dont :clap: conquer the world :clap: you're :clap: doing :clap: it :clap: wrong :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Wark Say posted:I kinda wonder if Walhart feels responsible about his ancestors' big fuckup. In my opinion, Walhart is a trendchaser. While his conquest begins at least some time before Awakening starts, Walhart definitely refines his strategy after hearing about Chrom's success out east. Excellus, for instance, is a very recent addition to Walhart's ranks by the time Act 2 rolls around, suggesting that Walhart decided that he'd need a prominent tactician (in the sense of being present at strategy meetings and so on) to match Robin's abilities. But going back to Walhart himself, growing up around Rigel Castle more than likely meant he had access to whatever history from Alm's time remained. And as Awakening quietly points out (and SoV provides extra context), Valentia did not remain a united kingdom after Alm and Celica assume the dual role of ruler nor did Valentia avoid further catastrophe. The area that is Zofia Castle in Alm's time is now the Demon's Ingle in Chrom's time, suggesting that a massive volcanic eruption and other seismic upheaval tore apart Valentia in the time between the two games, to the point the continent is outright renamed to Valm in Chrom's time. Thus, Walhart is born into a world that is divided and broken (with Walhart's region being nothing more than a ghost of what Rigel once was) with a history that showed the continent was once unified as one nation thanks to a brave boy and girl who rose from nothing to unite the continent. Ultimately, Walhart ties back into Chrom's struggles; Walhart isn't simply "what Chrom could be if he made the wrong choices", he is effectively what it looks like when you fail to understand the person you're looking up to. If Walhart truly was Alm's descendant, I believe that he most certainly would have been told the full story of Alm and Celica's journey, and ultimately become an ally to Chrom (or at least understand Chrom's situation better). But, that's not Walhart does; he instead fails to understand why Alm was important to the continent, and decides to replicate the myth of Alm as this grand conqueror of a broken nation rather than live up to Alm's image...as a just ruler who had the right people around him to shape Alm into a legendary king. The problem, I believe, is that Awakening fumbles the execution. I think Walhart was meant to be much more defined than what made it into the final game. Instead, what could have been a true dark parallel to how Archanea transformed over 2000 years, is instead flat and underdeveloped. So all that's left is this theory about whether or not Walhart is related to Alm and Celica, and a weak middle act that really needed more time to flesh things out.
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Walhart not being their descendent is an interesting theory. The fact they never directly draw the connection is something I hadn't noticed but does hold up. Walhart gets no special dialog with Alm in the DLC battles and even Heroes didn't make a connection. I don't...think Accordion of Valentia brought up the connection either? Which seems relevant if so. About the only direct connection I can think of is Alm's overclass is Conquerer Although for what it's worth, it's been thousands of years. Even if Walhart did get all the details of the journey, which probably left a lot out just due to the passage of time, I could still see him develop in a different way that'd cause him to completely miss the point of their journey & what they accomplished. After all, pretty sure Chrom's line came from Marth's (or at the very least, related in spirit of right of rule) but Chrom's father was still an utter monster by all counts. While looking at quotes I found this fun one quote:If we are to eradicate war, we must destroy all borders. Tear down the nation-state. Eradicate all notion of religion. Bring everything under one rule, and we can stamp out the strife that fuels war." — Walhart,
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gently caress, now I feel foolish: I meant "predecessors". 
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I don't think Walhart would bring it up as a focus if he was, honestly. His whole thing is making a new world with his own hands, that he's stronger than the gods. If he needed a holy bloodline, that would be saying his power was derived from someone else, not something he earned for himself.
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