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Cybernetic Vermin posted:again, yeah, obviously do anything that is easy and helps. but what is *not* a small effect is keeping your distance, staying home when sick, and washing your hands. those are known gigantic factors. Oh yeah I agree with this. I still think it is mostly that the government and media have overall trumpeted the Reopening Of The Economy and so everyone feels like it must just be safe to go back to doing their normal consumerist stuff and their lives should go back to their perfect rut they've worn, but yeah seeing no one else wearing a mask does only work to reinforce that. I guess we are going to see if people really do care about mass death, because 100k is going to look like a wonderful fantasy in a year.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:oh yeah, didn't read the post well enough, just closing borders is perfectly doable yeah. i thought you were clamoring for police marching the streets to keep people in their homes, which would help a lot but requires a capability which is a bit scary to have. enforce random spot checks where if they knock on your door and you’re not there then you’re busted
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 12:34 |
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Stereotype posted:If I'm wrong who cares gently caress you masks are fine just wear one. Put a picture of a skull or a cat on it and be an individual. Buy a dozen of them from some local seamstress so you just have them everywhere. A sizable proportion of Americans are ruled by oppositional defiance disorder and have no higher motivation than to scream "gently caress you, you aren't my dad" at anyone who suggests they do anything whatsoever no matter what it is. That proportion of Americans is large enough to control national politics. As a national force we are done.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 13:37 |
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places with better mask compliance probably have lower rates because the people willing to wear a mask are also willing to do other stuff for the greater good, like not leave the house unless its necessary or whatever I'm sticking to the asian grocery stores where they wont let u in if u dont have a mask
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 13:39 |
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:places with better mask compliance probably have lower rates because the people willing to wear a mask are also willing to do other stuff for the greater good, like not leave the house unless its necessary or whatever Local grocery store chain Giant Eagle is facing at least seven lawsuits because they're not letting people in without masks. It's absolutely insane. It's more important for these people to pick fights than it is to live.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 13:41 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Local grocery store chain Giant Eagle is facing at least seven lawsuits because they're not letting people in without masks. It's absolutely insane. It's more important for these people to pick fights than it is to live. honestly if not for all the essential employees i would be incredibly supportive of the death cult doing their thing and clearing up more jobs for millennials (and now some gen z) to finally have a shot at. You really wanna die for applebees? sure mate go for it be my guest, i could use another promotion anyways. but instead its mostly nuking minorities and the poor and not as many boomers as initially expected
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 13:44 |
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I can't find the article now, but about a month ago the WaPo published a bit about a high-end shopping area opening back up again in Marietta Georgia once the rich white people there figured out that it didn't seem to be killing them. One of the guys being interviewed outright says that it "affects other people." Infuriating.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 13:49 |
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Sagebrush posted:every time i visit my relatives in the carolinas they warn me not to speed in virginia it’s automatic reckless for going 20 over, or anything over 80. there is no automatic impoundment. and you’ll likely get pled down to 19 over and have to do traffic school. the over 80 bit gets a fair bit of folks, because in a lot of places interstates in VA have a speed limit of 70.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 13:55 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:A sizable proportion of Americans are ruled by oppositional defiance disorder and have no higher motivation than to scream "gently caress you, you aren't my dad" at anyone who suggests they do anything whatsoever no matter what it is. That proportion of Americans is large enough to control national politics. As a national force we are done. i'm kind of off on a tangent here, but this absolute twit i know posted this on fartbook what??
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 14:32 |
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They're applying trigger words to things they don't like, it's what they've been conditioned to do and the end goal of conservative politics in the US. Identify a word with bad things your base doesn't like, and attach that word to everything you want them to react against.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 14:39 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:It's more important for these people to pick fights than it is to live. this is the moral of almost every action, fantasy, or sci fi movie and book that includes impossible forces like aliens, a disaster, or any type of invader in North America where it is better to die rebelling than lose a small amount of freedom. it’s in retrospect no surprise that this is how people react after having been forced to digest propaganda like that for decades. Where are the movies or books where it’s people banding together that achieve things? They exist but are extremely rare and the whole cultural ethos of western fiction is lone hero doing the right thing against all odds (and other people)
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 14:45 |
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MononcQc posted:this is the moral of almost every action, fantasy, or sci fi movie and book that includes impossible forces like aliens, a disaster, or any type of invader in North America where it is better to die rebelling than lose a small amount of freedom. what about the avengers
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 14:49 |
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Also it's a ridiculously small sample size, but it was interesting that the 4 books I read that were translated from Chinese (romance in the three kingdoms, and the three body problem trilogy) had plot structures that extended way beyond the scope or lifetime of major characters and it was just expected that the series of events was bigger than their protagonists. It's a structure I haven't seen a whole lot otherwise but it was kind of glaring right then.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 14:51 |
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in some cities in china, they not only require you to wear a mask but every business has to take the temperature of everybody that enters, write down their name and phone number beside the recorded temperature in a log book
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MononcQc posted:this is the moral of almost every action, fantasy, or sci fi movie and book that includes impossible forces like aliens, a disaster, or any type of invader in North America where it is better to die rebelling than lose a small amount of freedom. reminder to anyone itt who hasn't seen chernobyl yet that you need to watch chernobyl because it's extremely good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nctLdHKbJgk
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 15:01 |
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Don't sleep with Ukrainian women. Chernobyl Fallout!
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 15:14 |
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fart simpson posted:in some cities in china, they not only require you to wear a mask but every business has to take the temperature of everybody that enters, write down their name and phone number beside the recorded temperature in a log book if you sit down at a restaurant here (usually outside) or get a haircut, you have to write down your name, address and phone number, too i bet chuds would have a collective meltdown about this, right before exchanging their personal information for reward points
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 15:23 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:A sizable proportion of Americans are ruled by oppositional defiance disorder and have no higher motivation than to scream "gently caress you, you aren't my dad" at anyone who suggests they do anything whatsoever no matter what it is. That proportion of Americans is large enough to control national politics. As a national force we are done. i can’t help but think that all of the postwar prosperity that a lot of these people enjoyed has a lot to do with this attitude. in short, they’re spoiled.
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President Beep posted:i can’t help but think that all of the postwar prosperity that a lot of these people enjoyed has a lot to do with this attitude. in short, they’re spoiled.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:reminder to anyone itt who hasn't seen chernobyl yet that you need to watch chernobyl because it's extremely good It's one of the best tv shows ever IMO. The companion podcast is also very good at covering all the artistic liberties they took on a per-episode basis, in terms of replacing or creating characters to play roles that weren't in the real world, and it's decent way to figure out where fact diverges from fiction when you haven't spent time reading 2-3 books on the topic on the side. Around the current argument, even if it's not fiction, it does a fantastic job of showing "well we're hosed, now what?" and having an endless parade of regular people working at it and fixing things with great personal sacrifice. It doesn't really have central heroes even if it has a few main characters, and it doesn't shed its heroes by just placing an anti-hero in there instead whose role is to smash everything. It just has a lot of people turning out to do heroic stuff, and that's probably part of why it feels like such a fresh take on everything.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 16:29 |
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re masks turns out there’s strong evidence for their effectiveness: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0203/v1 here’s a v good article on the chernobyl show: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/what-hbos-chernobyl-got-right-and-what-it-got-terribly-wrong
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MononcQc posted:this is the moral of almost every action, fantasy, or sci fi movie and book that includes impossible forces like aliens, a disaster, or any type of invader in North America where it is better to die rebelling than lose a small amount of freedom. brb off to write my ya trilogy about how benevolent aliens arrive and say you guys are gonna clean up your act and give us all their technology and usher us into a golden age but it's all public transport, vegetarianism, and equality and the entire world gladly accepts except for the us which is in ruins fighting an unwinnable war to hold onto our terrible way of life. eventually we win and plunge the planet into a new dark age and we're thrilled to do it
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PCjr sidecar posted:re masks turns out there’s strong evidence for their effectiveness: holy poo poo comment on that article posted:This article completely fails to consider the costs of mask-wearing. There's a reason why we don't do this. It impairs our quality of life. We like to feel fresh air on our faces. We like to go out and see people. We like to be able to talk to people unencumbered. We like to be able to see people's expressions, their smiles.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 17:31 |
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You know what really fucks up your quality of life? Dying
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 17:49 |
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lol someone covered that in those comments already: quote:I think the article is solid. As for the comments from D Curtis re quality of life, what he appears to have overlooked is that none of the lovely experience he lists are likely to be experienced by someone who is dead or stuck in hospital on a ventilator for weeks on end. Nor does he appear to realize that masks are to protect others. I guess Curtis lives in a country where only 'me' counts. I wonder where that might be?
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 17:53 |
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my covid test came back negative. yay.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 17:58 |
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hell yaeh 50% chance you dont have corona
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Endless Mike posted:my covid test came back negative. yay. mine too, that means I'm allowed to go to the dentist
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 18:15 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:You know what really fucks up your quality of life? Dying quantity has a quality all its own. alternately: live a little. very little.
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qirex posted:mine too, that means I'm allowed to go to the dentist mine was rescheduled to like september
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 18:27 |
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i shouldn't be surprised but i'm still disgusted https://twitter.com/greenhousenyt/status/1272958447986839554
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SO DEMANDING posted:i shouldn't be surprised but i'm still disgusted I'm looking forward to nobody facing any consequences
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 19:05 |
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they've also been murdering poo poo tons of pigs by basically steaming them to death
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 19:14 |
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steamed hams comfirmed
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 19:41 |
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:they've also been murdering poo poo tons of pigs by basically steaming them to death woo direct action! Oh pigs pigs
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 19:51 |
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MononcQc posted:Also it's a ridiculously small sample size, but it was interesting that the 4 books I read that were translated from Chinese (romance in the three kingdoms, and the three body problem trilogy) had plot structures that extended way beyond the scope or lifetime of major characters and it was just expected that the series of events was bigger than their protagonists. It's a structure I haven't seen a whole lot otherwise but it was kind of glaring right then.
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# ? Jun 17, 2020 19:55 |
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yeah it’s basically “welp your life is commodified already and capitalism in its infinite wisdom overproduced so we need to split our losses because we can’t sell you and it costs money to keep you around so we’ll find the most cost effective way to mass execute you”
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The Fool posted:locally, almost every recovered stolen car that I'm aware of has been because the owner of the car went out looking for it and called the cops when they found it gta has depicted cops as far more competent then they deserve NoneMoreNegative posted:woo direct action! ford doing their part too
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