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Speaking for my friends with arts PhDs: what the gently caress is a job?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53096584 RFU to review the singing of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:25
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Good, the way the English sing it is a crime in itself.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:11
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the review is for cultural appropriation since iirc the song itself isnt racial in nature? although if you banned everything the english culturally appropriated they'd wear plain grey and sit in silence
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Jun 18, 2020 20:34
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kecske posted:the review is for cultural appropriation since iirc the song itself isnt racial in nature? although if you banned everything the english culturally appropriated they'd wear plain grey and sit in silence It's basically what we deserve
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Jun 18, 2020 20:36
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kecske posted:the review is for cultural appropriation since iirc the song itself isnt racial in nature? not exactly. it's a spiritual song most likely written by an african american slave about elijah ascending to heaven. then some rugby fans sung it because of martin 'chariots' offiah.
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Jun 18, 2020 21:17
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Vaders Jester posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53096584 Thank Christ.
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Jun 19, 2020 01:01
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HappyCamperGL posted:not exactly. it's a spiritual song most likely written by an african american slave about elijah ascending to heaven. Notably not actually singing it for the first time at an England international at Twickenham to him, but to Chris Oti, another black guy. This is one of those things where a tradition has possibly dodgy origins, but the people continuing it don't intend any offence, and just see it as a harmless singalong. As a non-English person, I'd be glad to see the back of it (as it's pretty tedious). stavros880 fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Jun 19, 2020 18:59
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I wonder if in the light of everything going on and stuff like this being reviewed, Exeter will cast a critical eye on their whole loving deal. Surprised they've been able to get away with it this long to be honest.
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Jun 19, 2020 19:50
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If they sang more than two lines it would be nice.
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Jun 19, 2020 22:01
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oh no computer posted:I wonder if in the light of everything going on and stuff like this being reviewed, Exeter will cast a critical eye on their whole loving deal. Surprised they've been able to get away with it this long to be honest. I wouldn't hold your breath, Chiefs have been pretty belligerent about doing anything with their branding for years and Rowe, despite hating Sarries, is a prick.
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Jun 20, 2020 00:20
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Does Super Rugby have a salary cap? Never really heard it discussed.
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Jun 20, 2020 08:02
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Vaders Jester posted:I wouldn't hold your breath, Chiefs have been pretty belligerent about doing anything with their branding for years and Rowe, despite hating Sarries, is a prick. if Chiefs had to review their name, would Saracens not?
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Jun 20, 2020 08:48
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kecske posted:if Chiefs had to review their name, would Saracens not? Potentially. Though Saracens, as much as they are massive cheating bastards, don't have things like that stupid tomahawk chop and fans wearing native American headdresses like the Chiefs. So it's a silly name to have these days but they're not leaning into anything particularly dumb like the Chiefs do and haven't build their identity around any Middle-Eastern cultures, as far as I'm aware so they have less pressure on them to change. Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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Jun 20, 2020 13:53
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Mister Chief posted:Does Super Rugby have a salary cap? Never really heard it discussed. Australia have a $5m cap, can't seem to find anything on the SA or NZ teams but I'd imagine it's around about the same.
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Jun 20, 2020 13:58
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Mister Chief posted:Does Super Rugby have a salary cap? Never really heard it discussed. The NZ teams have $4.65million as of 2017, but it may have gone up. It is a bit complicated though, since the team that the majority of Super Rugby players is largely determined by geographical location and the provincial union they're signed with.
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Jun 20, 2020 20:49
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Brock James joins Ospreys as attack coach.
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Jun 27, 2020 16:47
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Refs just straight up running distractions for the Crusaders now.
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Jun 28, 2020 05:38
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Speaking of coach hirings, Gloucester have signed ex-London Irish 2nd row George Skivington as head coach, following the whole weird Ackermann/Humphreys debacle.
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Jun 28, 2020 21:41
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oh no computer posted:Speaking of coach hirings, Gloucester have signed ex-London Irish 2nd row George Skivington as head coach, following the whole weird Ackermann/Humphreys debacle. And somehow triggered another debacle in the process. Did Gloucester kick a black cat through a old wise-woman's mirror or something?
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Jun 29, 2020 16:02
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Chiliboy Ralepelle banned for 8 years for his 3rd PED violation.
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Jul 1, 2020 14:24
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Dude needs more practice at hiding it.
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Jul 1, 2020 14:28
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Well, now he has lots of time to work on it.
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Jul 1, 2020 14:38
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Should have stayed off the hot stuff.
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Jul 1, 2020 15:19
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You'd think getting caught twice already would be enough to give him the hint that maybe they're keeping an eye on him.
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Jul 1, 2020 16:27
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Retched reffing in this game.
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Jul 5, 2020 06:10
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Mister Chief posted:Retched reffing in this game. The two sides the refs always favour: the Crusaders and whoever is playing the Chiefs.
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Jul 5, 2020 09:31
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That's Mr Greg off to Japan for a pay day. Maybe he can teach them a thing or two about slowing the game down and really hurt the Japanese game.
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Jul 6, 2020 11:28
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Maybe it'll turn out he just needed everyone to get into position faster and his game will open right up.
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Jul 6, 2020 11:38
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Go reds.
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Jul 10, 2020 12:44
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Super Rugby Au leading Reds.
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Jul 10, 2020 13:02
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Vaders Jester posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53096584 When I was at the Wales vs England friendly in the Milennium Stadium the Welsh guy next to me kept winding up the English fans on the other side of me. At one point he lectured them at length about how they were singing a song about slavery, and to be fair most of the English fans on the other side genuinely looked like they had no idea what he was on about. Not sure how enforceable that would actually be though. Who do you punish when 30,000 people start singing a song?
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Jul 10, 2020 13:31
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They should give everyone a song book or stick some karaoke on the big screen. A giant assembly in the stadium. The public school types should love it, they wouldn't even have to watch the game.
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Jul 10, 2020 13:54
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Kitchner posted:When I was at the Wales vs England friendly in the Milennium Stadium the Welsh guy next to me kept winding up the English fans on the other side of me. At one point he lectured them at length about how they were singing a song about slavery, and to be fair most of the English fans on the other side genuinely looked like they had no idea what he was on about. Well they're already watching England play rugby sooooooooooooooooo
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Jul 10, 2020 14:55
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Probably less about stopping people from singing it, even if the rendition from England fans is rough at best, but telling people that it's actually a slave spiritual and where it comes from. Won't stop the prawn sandwich brigade but they're just there to be seen at the rugby anyway.
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Jul 10, 2020 15:30
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As a white American I was always very confused by England fans singing Swing Low Sweet Chariot. To me it wasn't really about race, though I'll defer to the Black community on that one, it just struck me as cultural appropriation and having no understanding of where it came from or what it meant. Though considering how the British Museum was filled I guess it's par for the course really. Glad to see it go. Now the Chiefs need to change their name and racist rear end logo too.
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Jul 10, 2020 19:02
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It's the 10 second uncredited novelty ringtone of cultural appropriation. Most people probably just assume it's a generic hymn. Assembly music, like I said earlier.
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Jul 10, 2020 19:09
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goatface posted:It's the 10 second uncredited novelty ringtone of cultural appropriation. Ignorance by the individual doesn't change the root issue. And yes it isn't a huge issue on the scale of a lot of things, but to me it always made me uncomfortable since that song was too important and holy almost to be used in that way. And I'm white. It's a big deal in the Black community. That was what I meant by cultural appropriation. That the song was grabbed with 0 thought given to where it came from and what it means. I think that the Chiefs logo is a much bigger deal honestly.
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Jul 10, 2020 19:22
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drunk leprechaun posted:As a white American I was always very confused by England fans singing Swing Low Sweet Chariot. To me it wasn't really about race, though I'll defer to the Black community on that one, it just struck me as cultural appropriation and having no understanding of where it came from or what it meant.
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Jul 10, 2020 19:28
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drunk leprechaun posted:As a white American I was always very confused by England fans singing Swing Low Sweet Chariot. To me it wasn't really about race, though I'll defer to the Black community on that one, it just struck me as cultural appropriation and having no understanding of where it came from or what it meant. Though considering how the British Museum was filled I guess it's par for the course really. Glad to see it go. They only really have to change the logo, they can use local history and use a leader of the Dumnonii tribe as their 'chief'.
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