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History Comes Inside! posted:A lot of the time it's this, tiny rear end venues with little to no space so they make do with what they have and unfortunately it's making abusers' lives easier. Which is why we ALWAYS try to find a way for those we want to change/plan in solo to do so (bathroom, find another tiny rear end room etc.) That's why I'm usually happier at the larger venue shows, it's another issue we don't have to worry as much about(the space being much larger so we can separate if needed)
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Jun 20, 2020 19:40
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I think I'm just going to stop watching wrestling
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Jun 20, 2020 19:48
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Raffles posted:I think I'm just going to stop watching wrestling A lot of people have this gut reaction and like, I get it, but you should realize you are doing this AS it's getting better because of a bunch of shits being flushed out
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Jun 20, 2020 19:56
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Joey Ryan https://twitter.com/yousuckmark/status/1274414650424061953
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Statement from Trent Seven https://twitter.com/trentseven/status/1274380505534914560
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Jun 20, 2020 19:58
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Yeah, if people just stop watching wrestling at all then doesn't that just deprive the victims here of their livelihoods? Seems somewhat backwards of a reaction.
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Jun 20, 2020 19:59
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I stopped for a long time after the Benoit CTE stuff became more widely known. Like I couldn't support an industry that was physically destroying people's brains. Not sure why I started watching again. Wrestling doesn't HAVE to be a CTE machine, and it doesn't have to be a sex assault meat grinder either.
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Jun 20, 2020 20:04
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The biggest name accused was literally on the biggest weekly wrestling show yesterday, so let's not talk as though anything significant has actually happened yet.
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Jun 20, 2020 20:07
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Shaming people for not feeling comfy watching wrestling after a stretch of days like the last three is certainly A Look
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Jun 20, 2020 20:08
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Wrestling is always going to be scummy and there's no real proof that all of these people will be pushed out of wrestling, if people choose to stop supporting this form of entertainment its their choice.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Yeah, if people just stop watching wrestling at all then doesn't that just deprive the victims here of their livelihoods? Seems somewhat backwards of a reaction. You're right, dammit. I will put my money into more indie artists and especially those who have spoken out.
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Jun 20, 2020 20:09
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Tonfa posted:A lot of people have this gut reaction and like, I get it, but you should realize you are doing this AS it's getting better because of a bunch of shits being flushed out* *is the hope A bunch of stuff is coming out. Will it have long-term effects? It should. It needs to Jack Gallagher being fired from WWE without future endeavors wished well isn't enough (especially when his taped match airs as the final match of WWE programming later that night). Jimmy Havoc's employment in AEW pending a decision until he gets back from rehab isn't enough. NXTUK is still operating. JBL and Tyson are still in the Hall of Fame. Dave Crist, Moose, Michael Elgin and Tessa Blanchard are all still employed in TNA; the latter two are still scheduled for the next PPV's main event, and the latter one is still the recognized world champ Cerebral Bore posted:Yeah, if people just stop watching wrestling at all then doesn't that just deprive the victims here of their livelihoods? Seems somewhat backwards of a reaction. A lot of victims got driven out of the industry because of the abuse. Pollyanna didn't get a chance at keeping her livelihood because people sided with Flippy Ospreay over the person his friend asssaulted. This is a complicated topic that there's no right, easy answer on. I don't blame people for staying and supporting the remnants of the companies that survive this, because there are good people who deserve support during these times; I don't blame people for moving on, because there are inevitably abusers (like Riddle and maybe even Dream still), and people who enabled the abuse (like Ospreay and Bea), who Will survive this and still be employed because they're too powerful for their companies to feel like cutting bait on A lot of things need to improve from here. More than just time, that takes effort. Will this leave people exhausted and ready to just move on more than it leaves people angry and desiring to make necessary changes?
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There will always be more and new abusers in the future some you dont even expect and support
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Hellblazer187 posted:I stopped for a long time after the Benoit CTE stuff became more widely known. Like I couldn't support an industry that was physically destroying people's brains. Yeah, even if you fix the assault, harassment, and hazing, at the end of the day these people are hurting themselves for our entertainment. I don't feel great about it.
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Tonfa posted:A lot of people have this gut reaction and like, I get it, but you should realize you are doing this AS it's getting better because of a bunch of shits being flushed out The BritWres revival is what got me back into wrestling and honestly this is so loving appalling I can't really see it being good for my mental well being to watch wrestling at least for a good while. I do truly hope it improves for those in the business though. Raffles fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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Jun 20, 2020 20:13
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Raffles posted:The BritWres revival is what got me back into wrestling and honestly this is so loving appalling I can't really see myself being good for my mental well being to watch wrestling at least for a good while. Ya I get it. Take care of yourself and I hope you find better entertainment.
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Jun 20, 2020 20:16
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Wrestling is complete garbage and it needs to be better
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Jun 20, 2020 20:18
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PROGRESS will no longer be working with Ligero or Travis Banks, Jordan Devlin and Scotty Davis remain just suspended
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Jun 20, 2020 20:20
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Someone asked a bunch of pages ago about the Dan Maff/Homicide thing and a few years back Homicide admitted he was calling him a pedophile because he thought it was philanderer, I think I'm remembering that correctly but regardless Maff is crap anyway!
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Jun 20, 2020 20:25
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An entire fed decided to out itself as useless https://mobile.twitter.com/Natasha53814540/status/1274419695802875905
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Jun 20, 2020 20:31
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Not that I doubt the story, but this is the same Joey Ryan who tracked me and my friends down at a show to give us autographs because "Your friend's daughter kept calling me a pervert and it made me feel awkward." Then I see this and it reads like another person
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Jun 20, 2020 20:32
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the lists with hero, sabin, and trevor lee are still going around and i've not seen the original accusations anywhere
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Jun 20, 2020 20:32
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Lid posted:An entire fed decided to out itself as useless Taking your promotion's official account private is a good look
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KungFu Grip posted:the lists with hero, sabin, and trevor lee are still going around and i've not seen the original accusations anywhere I think that original list with them was a hoax, but unfortunately once it's out there it's out there.
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That screenshot can't be real, right? https://twitter.com/b3rt4/status/1274430119365443586
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Jun 20, 2020 20:59
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As someone who monitors multiple Facebook groups for a monetized community as one part of my shoot job I can safely assume it's real.
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Jun 20, 2020 21:03
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Always remember that wrestlers, until this week, always circled the wagons even more than cops. Similarly they also feel invincible due to largely being untouchable and unaccountable for their actions, because anyone outside "the business" is "just a mark".
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Jun 20, 2020 21:06
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Not sure if this was posted and I overlooked it, but Darrell Allen https://twitter.com/thealeahjames/status/1274407952854761474 and O.J.M.O. was the one who sent her the screenshots, letting her know what Darrell was saying. https://twitter.com/TheOJMO/status/1274408372373262337
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PROGRESS Referee Mark 'Paz' Parry https://twitter.com/deathbysuzy/status/1274434363606863872
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Huntman posted:Not sure if this was posted and I overlooked it, but Darrell Allen It was an anonymous accusation that Allen ‘apologized’ for and named James as the victim. I’m glad that OJMO came forward with those screenshots and that the younger generation of British wrestlers are working to create a safer scene than the one they trained in.
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Lumbermouth posted:It was an anonymous accusation that Allen ‘apologized’ for and named James as the victim. Ah, thank you for clearing that up. Allen deleted his Twitter, so I wasn't sure if there was another part of the story or not.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NeonCassius/status/1274437437775925249 Sanjay Bagga, unsurprisingly an unrepentant Tory
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Lumbermouth posted:It was an anonymous accusation that Allen ‘apologized’ for and named James as the victim. "younger generation" Tyler Bate is only 23 years old. This isn't just gonna be a thing thats going to go away with just some people wiped out of the business
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KungFu Grip posted:"younger generation" Tyler Bate is only 23 years old. This isn't just gonna be a thing thats going to go away with just some people wiped out of the business Yeah, the vast majority of the accusations coming out are against the younger generation.
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Jun 20, 2020 21:34
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KungFu Grip posted:"younger generation" Tyler Bate is only 23 years old. This isn't just gonna be a thing thats going to go away with just some people wiped out of the business But the specific names who are doing a lot of this work (Sierra Loxton, Alexxis Falcon, Millie McKenzie, Dan Moloney, etc.) are pretty much all in their early 20s. I hope there can be a generational shift.
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Not looking good for PROGRESS with Jim Smallman's replacement stepping down today and now this https://twitter.com/DLockPro/status/1274438741726240769?s=20 On top of haboring a lot of sex pests.
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