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2018 was the midterm elections which shifted the balance of power in the house, not the presidency.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 07:53 |
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OwlFancier posted:2018 was the midterm elections which shifted the balance of power in the house, not the presidency. No poo poo. Meanwhile, I and those tweets are talking about the 2020 election.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 07:56 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:No poo poo. Meanwhile, I and those tweets are talking about the 2020 election. why is every single post of yours weirdly aggressive? get therapy
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 07:59 |
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I may be confused because Jeet specifically says he is talking about the 2018 election in the first quote? With, I think, the implication that he does not feel they delivered on that professed intention? To which the respondant veers a bit close to the suggestion that you can't obstruct Trump because the majority of the bad things he wants to do are legal. OwlFancier has a new favorite as of 08:06 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:I may be confused because Jeet specifically says he is talking about the 2018 election in the first quote? He's talking about the 2018 election in the past tense ("kids today don't believe it but in 2018") as a way of suggesting the Dems are bad in 2020 for...I guess not following the same tactics in the 2020 election, which is a presidential election where the Dems can, in fact, get rid of Trump completely. The only reason to assume voters would care about a Democratic-majority congress holding the Trump administration accountable is if the Dems assume they aren't going to win the presidency. This would be a moronic strategy on the part of the Dems. It's a truly bizarre argument and I don't blame you for being confused. Vincent Van Goatse has a new favorite as of 08:08 on Jun 21, 2020 |
# ? Jun 21, 2020 08:05 |
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I think the point of the tweets is to illustrate that the disagreement is limited to the procedural, rather than the moral. That the concern is more that he broke the rules rather than that he did bad things.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 08:08 |
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OwlFancier posted:I think the point of the tweets is to illustrate that the disagreement is limited to the procedural, rather than the moral. That the concern is more that he broke the rules rather than that he did bad things. Except that this doesn't really work either because impeachment is a process. You literally have to do it according to the laws which specify what bad things can be used to impeach a president and sadly genocide is not one of those because the impeachment laws were drawn up long before genocide existed as a legal concept. And even besides that the idea that the Democrats in Congress impeached him for one thing and not another means they didn't fulfill their campaign promise to hold Trump accountable is ludicrous on its face because impeachment is the ultimate example of Congress holding the Executive Branch responsible for its actions. It's goalpost moving. Vincent Van Goatse has a new favorite as of 08:14 on Jun 21, 2020 |
# ? Jun 21, 2020 08:09 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Which is the side I'm supposed to find idiotic here? Because honestly it could be either. They effectively impeached him because he temporarily halted arm sales to Ukraine which, even if he only did it to get dirt on Biden, is one of the more morally sound decisions a modern president has made. Compare that to, say, the inummerable criminally inhumane and unconstitutional things being done at the ICE concentration camps, which the Democrats clearly don't think are impeachable offenses. Also 2018 isn't the same year as 2020. In fact, they're two whole years apart.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 08:11 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Except that this doesn't really work either because impeachment is a process. You literally have to do it according to the laws which specify what bad things can be used to impeach a president and sadly genocide is not one of those because the impeachment laws were drawn up long before genocide existed as a legal concept. You can absolutely impeach a president for genocide.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 08:12 |
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Yes, but that's the thing being illustrated, that parker perceives the most important opposition being the impeachment over a technicality rather than legislative opposition to abhorrent policy. They may simply be expressing themselves poorly but it conveys a very unflattering stereotype.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 08:13 |
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OwlFancier posted:Yes, but that's the thing being illustrated, that parker perceives the most important opposition being the impeachment over a technicality rather than legislative opposition to abhorrent policy. But implicit in this is the assumption the Dems don't care about abhorrent policy, as opposed to his impeachment on Ukraine-related matters being a case of having more explicit evidence for the Ukraine business than for his repugnant ICE poo poo. MizPiz posted:Also 2018 isn't the same year as 2020. In fact, they're two whole years apart. This is in fact part of the core of my argument, yes.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 08:17 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:But implicit in this is the assumption the Dems don't care about abhorrent policy, as opposed to his impeachment on Ukraine-related matters being a case of having more explicit evidence for the Ukraine business than for his repugnant ICE poo poo. Not only is there more explicit evidence for the ICE stuff, it's actually clear what he did wrong. At the very worst, what he did in Ukraine what every American business/political leader does in destabilized countries, it just happened to counter what was (and is) the established foreign policy for the region. Also it's not an "implicit assumption" that the Dems don't care about abhorrent policy. There is at bare minimum four years worth of proof of them signing off and even promoting the very abhorrent policies they love to pretend they're fighting against. Edit: If you need a stronger case that Democrats don't actually oppose anything Trump does or says, remember that they made Nancy Pelosi applauding in agreement with Trump as their "SLAY KWEEN" symbol. MizPiz has a new favorite as of 08:50 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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StillFullyTerrible posted:
for the record the tweet references a Warren supporter who wants socialism without marxism, i.e. pulling the overton towards the right
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 09:02 |
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What the flying gently caress is socialism without marxism? It's not even fascism cos fascism has historically been hypercapitalist. Genuinely cannot fathom what that means.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 09:08 |
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OwlFancier posted:What the flying gently caress is socialism without marxism? Most people who talk about Marxism don't know what it means
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 09:17 |
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marxism is a postmodernist ideology dedicated to changing comic book characters and putting hormones that turn people gay in the water supply now you never need to real marx yw
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 09:20 |
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Goa Tse-tung posted:for the record the tweet references a Warren supporter who wants socialism without marxism, i.e. pulling the overton towards the right "Real leftists read works written by these WOC, not Lenin!" *Lists writers who explicitly say to read Lenin*
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 09:22 |
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MizPiz posted:"Real leftists read works written by these WOC, not Lenin!" Also the idea that Jews in 19th century Europe have no understanding of racism.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 09:25 |
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OwlFancier posted:What the flying gently caress is socialism without marxism? Strictly speaking it's a term used to describe the pre-Marx "utopian socialists" like Saint-Simon etc. Not sure it's particularly relevant these days but it's a real thing.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 09:28 |
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This could be fun to use on all of those posts like 'actually, stats show that black on black violence is worse than white on black violence' or 'black people are more of a danger to themselves than anyone else'.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 12:26 |
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T-man posted:Anarchists, by and large, both read and support Marx. He has become a cornerstone of anticapitalist thought because his analysis is brilliant, even today. The left without him is just progressives and the Warren crowd. I may not personally care for many M-Ls/Maoists on SA, but I'd take Crane Fist over you any day. lmao, i'm an anarchist you tool
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 12:30 |
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You're reading it too charitably. The account just replaces the word "white" with the word "black" so all those tweets about "ugh white people are the worst" or "there is a firmly entrenched structural bias that inherently favors white people even if there are individual actors who do not consciously perpetuate it" reveal that it is in fact the minorities who are the real racists.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 12:31 |
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Somehow I fell into that account's radar yesterday. They called me a r-word in response to me arguing that the police removing someone from Trump's rally because of thoughtcrime is bad, then looked for something to attack through my timeline, finally resorting to the ol' transphobia.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 15:36 |
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wizzardstaff posted:Someone in the comments dug up the time he called the sheriff to handle a possum. edit: I don't know how my browser messed up and posted it but I'm just gonna leave this because lol this dude called the cops on a possum Internet Wizard has a new favorite as of 17:02 on Jun 21, 2020 |
# ? Jun 21, 2020 15:52 |
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Ash is not the idiot: https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1274589693741539329
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 16:45 |
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https://twitter.com/AITA_reddit/status/1274738381411491846
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:21 |
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Lol at the chud brainlords in the comments asking "well if the genders were reversed what then??" gotchas and everyone replying "uh no getting the waiter fired would still be over the top in that case but nice try"
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:28 |
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:42 |
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TinTower posted:Ash is not the idiot: This is some really nuts poo poo. Like, they're saying that three oranges is celebrating the death of three people somewhere else because of The Godfather's symbolism around death and oranges? ...what!?!??
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:43 |
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Brawnfire posted:...what!?!?? As usual the answer is "brain worms"
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:45 |
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this is written so poorly that i can't even really understand what it's trying to say, although I assume by the flags they're an aussie weeaboo
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:46 |
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StillFullyTerrible posted:this is written so poorly that i can't even really understand what it's trying to say, although I assume by the flags they're an aussie weeaboo You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:47 |
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zakharov posted:You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling. Does that make you (southern) cross?
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:51 |
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zakharov posted:You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling. look if new zealand wanted to be remembered better maybe they should make the difference between their flags be more than 3 stars
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:58 |
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Skwirl posted:I was todays years old when I learned Institutionalized had an official music video. I've known about it for years and i just noticed a) there is Pepsi in the fridge and he doesn't get himself any, and b) his dad spends time mowing the driveway
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 17:58 |
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StillFullyTerrible posted:look if new zealand wanted to be remembered better maybe they should make the difference between their flags be more than 3 stars They had a vote about that a few years ago and decided not to!
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 18:00 |
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Brawnfire posted:This is some really nuts poo poo. That crazy people could make this connection does not surprise me. What I did learn: apparently British people call popsicles “lollys”. Look we’re just starting now to wrap our minds around the whole fries/chips/crisps conundrum.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 18:12 |
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zakharov posted:You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling. Kiweaboo
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 18:13 |
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Mak0rz posted:Lol at the chud brainlords in the comments asking "well if the genders were reversed what then??" gotchas and everyone replying "uh no getting the waiter fired would still be over the top in that case but nice try" Almost certainly a made up situation specifically to try and ‘prove’ double standards.
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# ? Jun 21, 2020 18:15 |
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letthereberock posted:That crazy people could make this connection does not surprise me. https://youtu.be/lj2ZlY2nQ3s My favorite scene from Black Books, a show by just Dylan Moran and nobody else but some input from his talented co-stars but nobody else besides that
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