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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

2018 was the midterm elections which shifted the balance of power in the house, not the presidency.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OwlFancier posted:

2018 was the midterm elections which shifted the balance of power in the house, not the presidency.

No poo poo. Meanwhile, I and those tweets are talking about the 2020 election.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

No poo poo. Meanwhile, I and those tweets are talking about the 2020 election.

why is every single post of yours weirdly aggressive? get therapy

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I may be confused because Jeet specifically says he is talking about the 2018 election in the first quote?

With, I think, the implication that he does not feel they delivered on that professed intention?

To which the respondant veers a bit close to the suggestion that you can't obstruct Trump because the majority of the bad things he wants to do are legal.

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OwlFancier posted:

I may be confused because Jeet specifically says he is talking about the 2018 election in the first quote?

He's talking about the 2018 election in the past tense ("kids today don't believe it but in 2018") as a way of suggesting the Dems are bad in 2020 for...I guess not following the same tactics in the 2020 election, which is a presidential election where the Dems can, in fact, get rid of Trump completely. The only reason to assume voters would care about a Democratic-majority congress holding the Trump administration accountable is if the Dems assume they aren't going to win the presidency. This would be a moronic strategy on the part of the Dems.

It's a truly bizarre argument and I don't blame you for being confused.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think the point of the tweets is to illustrate that the disagreement is limited to the procedural, rather than the moral. That the concern is more that he broke the rules rather than that he did bad things.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OwlFancier posted:

I think the point of the tweets is to illustrate that the disagreement is limited to the procedural, rather than the moral. That the concern is more that he broke the rules rather than that he did bad things.

Except that this doesn't really work either because impeachment is a process. You literally have to do it according to the laws which specify what bad things can be used to impeach a president and sadly genocide is not one of those because the impeachment laws were drawn up long before genocide existed as a legal concept.

And even besides that the idea that the Democrats in Congress impeached him for one thing and not another means they didn't fulfill their campaign promise to hold Trump accountable is ludicrous on its face because impeachment is the ultimate example of Congress holding the Executive Branch responsible for its actions. It's goalpost moving.

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Which is the side I'm supposed to find idiotic here? Because honestly it could be either.

Why would the Dems run on being able to bring oversight to bear on Trump in an election where the results of winning is Trump no longer being President? Not to mention the galaxy brain take of "you impeached him for the wrong things".

They effectively impeached him because he temporarily halted arm sales to Ukraine which, even if he only did it to get dirt on Biden, is one of the more morally sound decisions a modern president has made. Compare that to, say, the inummerable criminally inhumane and unconstitutional things being done at the ICE concentration camps, which the Democrats clearly don't think are impeachable offenses.

Also 2018 isn't the same year as 2020. In fact, they're two whole years apart.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Except that this doesn't really work either because impeachment is a process. You literally have to do it according to the laws which specify what bad things can be used to impeach a president and sadly genocide is not one of those because the impeachment laws were drawn up long before genocide existed as a legal concept.

You can absolutely impeach a president for genocide.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yes, but that's the thing being illustrated, that parker perceives the most important opposition being the impeachment over a technicality rather than legislative opposition to abhorrent policy.

They may simply be expressing themselves poorly but it conveys a very unflattering stereotype.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OwlFancier posted:

Yes, but that's the thing being illustrated, that parker perceives the most important opposition being the impeachment over a technicality rather than legislative opposition to abhorrent policy.

But implicit in this is the assumption the Dems don't care about abhorrent policy, as opposed to his impeachment on Ukraine-related matters being a case of having more explicit evidence for the Ukraine business than for his repugnant ICE poo poo.

MizPiz posted:

Also 2018 isn't the same year as 2020. In fact, they're two whole years apart.

This is in fact part of the core of my argument, yes.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

But implicit in this is the assumption the Dems don't care about abhorrent policy, as opposed to his impeachment on Ukraine-related matters being a case of having more explicit evidence for the Ukraine business than for his repugnant ICE poo poo.

Not only is there more explicit evidence for the ICE stuff, it's actually clear what he did wrong. At the very worst, what he did in Ukraine what every American business/political leader does in destabilized countries, it just happened to counter what was (and is) the established foreign policy for the region.

Also it's not an "implicit assumption" that the Dems don't care about abhorrent policy. There is at bare minimum four years worth of proof of them signing off and even promoting the very abhorrent policies they love to pretend they're fighting against.

Edit: If you need a stronger case that Democrats don't actually oppose anything Trump does or says, remember that they made Nancy Pelosi applauding in agreement with Trump as their "SLAY KWEEN" symbol.

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Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

StillFullyTerrible posted:



marxist-leninists are so loving salty that a bunch of angry teens pulled the overton window to the left lmao

for the record the tweet references a Warren supporter who wants socialism without marxism, i.e. pulling the overton towards the right

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

What the flying gently caress is socialism without marxism?

It's not even fascism cos fascism has historically been hypercapitalist.

Genuinely cannot fathom what that means.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

OwlFancier posted:

What the flying gently caress is socialism without marxism?

It's not even fascism cos fascism has historically been hypercapitalist.

Genuinely cannot fathom what that means.

Most people who talk about Marxism don't know what it means

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

marxism is a postmodernist ideology dedicated to changing comic book characters and putting hormones that turn people gay in the water supply

now you never need to real marx yw

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Goa Tse-tung posted:

for the record the tweet references a Warren supporter who wants socialism without marxism, i.e. pulling the overton towards the right

"Real leftists read works written by these WOC, not Lenin!"

*Lists writers who explicitly say to read Lenin*

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

MizPiz posted:

"Real leftists read works written by these WOC, not Lenin!"

*Lists writers who explicitly say to read Lenin*

Also the idea that Jews in 19th century Europe have no understanding of racism.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

OwlFancier posted:

What the flying gently caress is socialism without marxism?

It's not even fascism cos fascism has historically been hypercapitalist.

Genuinely cannot fathom what that means.

Strictly speaking it's a term used to describe the pre-Marx "utopian socialists" like Saint-Simon etc. Not sure it's particularly relevant these days but it's a real thing.

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!




This could be fun to use on all of those posts like 'actually, stats show that black on black violence is worse than white on black violence' or 'black people are more of a danger to themselves than anyone else'.

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax

T-man posted:

Anarchists, by and large, both read and support Marx. He has become a cornerstone of anticapitalist thought because his analysis is brilliant, even today. The left without him is just progressives and the Warren crowd. I may not personally care for many M-Ls/Maoists on SA, but I'd take Crane Fist over you any day.

the diffrence between a leninst and an ancom is far less than either of them have to dipshit liberals.

lmao, i'm an anarchist you tool

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
You're reading it too charitably. The account just replaces the word "white" with the word "black" so all those tweets about "ugh white people are the worst" or "there is a firmly entrenched structural bias that inherently favors white people even if there are individual actors who do not consciously perpetuate it" reveal that it is in fact the minorities who are the real racists.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
Somehow I fell into that account's radar yesterday. They called me a r-word in response to me arguing that the police removing someone from Trump's rally because of thoughtcrime is bad, then looked for something to attack through my timeline, finally resorting to the ol' transphobia.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

wizzardstaff posted:

Someone in the comments dug up the time he called the sheriff to handle a possum.

https://twitter.com/LewisForMN/status/968174008985423880

edit: I don't know how my browser messed up and posted it but I'm just gonna leave this because lol this dude called the cops on a possum

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TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Ash is not the idiot:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1274589693741539329

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


https://twitter.com/AITA_reddit/status/1274738381411491846

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬


Lol at the chud brainlords in the comments asking "well if the genders were reversed what then??" gotchas and everyone replying "uh no getting the waiter fired would still be over the top in that case but nice try"

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule


This is some really nuts poo poo.

Like, they're saying that three oranges is celebrating the death of three people somewhere else because of The Godfather's symbolism around death and oranges?

...what!?!??

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Brawnfire posted:

...what!?!??

As usual the answer is "brain worms"

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax

this is written so poorly that i can't even really understand what it's trying to say, although I assume by the flags they're an aussie weeaboo

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:

StillFullyTerrible posted:

this is written so poorly that i can't even really understand what it's trying to say, although I assume by the flags they're an aussie weeaboo

You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

zakharov posted:

You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling.

Does that make you (southern) cross?

StillFullyTerrible
Feb 16, 2020

you should have left Let's Play open for public view, Lowtax

zakharov posted:

You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling.

look if new zealand wanted to be remembered better maybe they should make the difference between their flags be more than 3 stars

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Skwirl posted:

I was todays years old when I learned Institutionalized had an official music video.

I've known about it for years and i just noticed a) there is Pepsi in the fridge and he doesn't get himself any, and b) his dad spends time mowing the driveway

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:

StillFullyTerrible posted:

look if new zealand wanted to be remembered better maybe they should make the difference between their flags be more than 3 stars

They had a vote about that a few years ago and decided not to!

letthereberock
Sep 4, 2004

Brawnfire posted:

This is some really nuts poo poo.

Like, they're saying that three oranges is celebrating the death of three people somewhere else because of The Godfather's symbolism around death and oranges?

...what!?!??

That crazy people could make this connection does not surprise me.

What I did learn: apparently British people call popsicles “lollys”.

Look we’re just starting now to wrap our minds around the whole fries/chips/crisps conundrum.

d3lness
Feb 19, 2011

Unicorns are metal. Gundanium alloy to be exact...

zakharov posted:

You have mixed up the Australian and New Zealand flags, that's a paddling.

Kiweaboo

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Mak0rz posted:

Lol at the chud brainlords in the comments asking "well if the genders were reversed what then??" gotchas and everyone replying "uh no getting the waiter fired would still be over the top in that case but nice try"

Almost certainly a made up situation specifically to try and ‘prove’ double standards.

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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

letthereberock posted:

That crazy people could make this connection does not surprise me.

What I did learn: apparently British people call popsicles “lollys”.

Look we’re just starting now to wrap our minds around the whole fries/chips/crisps conundrum.

https://youtu.be/lj2ZlY2nQ3s

My favorite scene from Black Books, a show by just Dylan Moran and nobody else but some input from his talented co-stars but nobody else besides that

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