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Cancel wrestling
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 09:55 |
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 21:28 |
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If nothing else this week has taught us that "make your wrestling gimmick yourself turned up to 11" is some terrible, terrible advice
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 10:02 |
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wow who wouldve thought someone who hangs around with jericho is complete scum santana and ortiz need to sever and fast before they turn into pieces of poo poo too
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 10:04 |
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Huntman posted:Add one more Joey Ryan story to the pile Jesus loving Christ. Also here's the actual video itself where the top comment is from 4 months ago of somebody literally pointing this out and asking what the gently caress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBQblkwIH64&t=1101s
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 10:16 |
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idk if he was mentioned, but Lewis Girvan https://twitter.com/jessijezebel/status/1274036191369859077?s=19 gently caress's sake, Scottish wrestling needs to be better
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 10:51 |
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Charlie Morgan is rad and the Knights suck https://twitter.com/charliemorganuk/status/1275001873301463040
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 10:58 |
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Frank Miller https://twitter.com/Hayley_Shadows/status/1274999068918456320 https://twitter.com/Hayley_Shadows/status/1274999262271754241
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 11:00 |
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Sammy could have used literally hundreds of other words in that sentence to replace just that one and been fine, if not a little OTT in his enthusiasm for Sasha. What a loving idiot.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 11:49 |
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I'll update the list soon, but this was missed from a few days ago: https://twitter.com/JasonF1824/status/1273818241287303169 EDIT: I see I have a new avatar I'm not updating poo poo
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:17 |
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hmmm that av text im not even sure i understand, those sammy tweets i do understand and its awful i dont like him anymore
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:24 |
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One thing that someone mentioned on twitter: when you look at the dudes who seem to be the most vocal about the Speaking Out stuff in terms of amplifying voices and trying to help people: its the next generation mostly. Dan Moloney, who's been the loudest voice, is only 23: Joe Nelson has been vocal as well and he's loving seventeen years old: still basically a child. I don't think his age is public but Michael Oku surely isn't that old either; and he's there taking on a management role in Progress now. Hell the main person leading the push overall is Sierra Luxton and she's only 21. This can be seen in two ways: hopefully its evidence that the next generation have a load of good eggs in it and that if they get into positions of power and responsibility things will get better: but also an indictment on the previous generation that with a few exceptions (Pete Dunne ought to be mentioned as one of them) they've been silent and almost forced them into these leadership positions rather than doing what veterans should do if they were clear in themselves that they were innocent.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:27 |
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Feeling real glad I just changed my avatar right now
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:27 |
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Suplex Liberace posted:hmmm that av text im not even sure i understand, those sammy tweets i do understand and its awful i dont like him anymore I didn't buy it but it's probably related to the theorising they were doing about Kylie Rae that they ate a probe for
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:30 |
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Sammy made a "Sasha looks like a man" joke the other day so I'm not surprised.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:32 |
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Suplex Liberace posted:hmmm that av text im not even sure i understand Assuming it's because of the Kylie Rae conspiracy theory he got probated for ITT MorrisBae posted:If it did happen, she probably went to Tony and said "let me out of my contract or I'll go to the media" and the compromise was "ok I'll let you out, but you can never speak of this to anyone" fatherofmustard posted:Sammy made a "Sasha looks like a man" joke the other day so I'm not surprised. Gross Goddamn why are the heel gimmicks really just how those people are in real life
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:32 |
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IceAgeComing posted:One thing that someone mentioned on twitter: when you look at the dudes who seem to be the most vocal about the Speaking Out stuff in terms of amplifying voices and trying to help people: its the next generation mostly. Dan Moloney, who's been the loudest voice, is only 23: Joe Nelson has been vocal as well and he's loving seventeen years old: still basically a child. I don't think his age is public but Michael Oku surely isn't that old either; and he's there taking on a management role in Progress now. Hell the main person leading the push overall is Sierra Luxton and she's only 21. This can be seen in two ways: hopefully its evidence that the next generation have a load of good eggs in it and that if they get into positions of power and responsibility things will get better: but also an indictment on the previous generation that with a few exceptions (Pete Dunne ought to be mentioned as one of them) they've been silent and almost forced them into these leadership positions rather than doing what veterans should do if they were clear in themselves that they were innocent. Wrestlers are historically among the worst human beings on the planet. Turning that around has been a slow process and one that certainly isn't helped by the existing culture in wrestling.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:32 |
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IceAgeComing posted:One thing that someone mentioned on twitter: when you look at the dudes who seem to be the most vocal about the Speaking Out stuff in terms of amplifying voices and trying to help people: its the next generation mostly. Dan Moloney, who's been the loudest voice, is only 23: Joe Nelson has been vocal as well and he's loving seventeen years old: still basically a child. I don't think his age is public but Michael Oku surely isn't that old either; and he's there taking on a management role in Progress now. Hell the main person leading the push overall is Sierra Luxton and she's only 21. This can be seen in two ways: hopefully its evidence that the next generation have a load of good eggs in it and that if they get into positions of power and responsibility things will get better: but also an indictment on the previous generation that with a few exceptions (Pete Dunne ought to be mentioned as one of them) they've been silent and almost forced them into these leadership positions rather than doing what veterans should do if they were clear in themselves that they were innocent. Yeah, I've been v disappointed in a lot of brit veterans this week.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:32 |
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fatherofmustard posted:Sammy made a "Sasha looks like a man" joke the other day so I'm not surprised. In context it was actually a "Ricochet looks like a girl" joke but that's obviously not any better. (Ricochet previously said something about how he looked like Sasha when he was younger so Sammy was riffing on that)
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:37 |
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It's a shame it won't happen, but I'd love for there to be brain scans on all these pieces of poo poo. See how many of them have frontal lobe/ brain damage. That would explain (not excuse) how so many of these creeps are all in the same industry. They start as normal poo poo heads. Take one or two bad brain hits, an undocumented concussion or three. Next thing you know... Joey Ryan.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:42 |
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Malcolm Excellent posted:It's a shame it won't happen, but I'd love for there to be brain scans on all these pieces of poo poo. See how many of them have frontal lobe/ brain damage. That would explain (not excuse) how so many of these creeps are all in the same industry. Let's not let people get off on this due to the brain damage excuse. This industry is full of creeps because it's a sleazy loving industry and always has been.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:45 |
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Malcolm Excellent posted:It's a shame it won't happen, but I'd love for there to be brain scans on all these pieces of poo poo. See how many of them have frontal lobe/ brain damage. That would explain (not excuse) how so many of these creeps are all in the same industry. This is weird and you're not going to get an answer that clean. Wrestling is attractive to predators because it's fairly unregulated, no one outside of wrestling takes it seriously, and apparently things like "17 year old girl lives with a house full of adult men" was considered socially acceptable. And that last part is big because it's going to make an environment serious predators are attracted to and an environment that tells people who are kind of edge cases "this behavior is cool and fine" when in a different environment they might of picked up how lovely it is and not escalate. But you're not getting an answer as clean as they hit their heads until the evil switch turned on because people are not that simple or clean.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:52 |
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All male-dominated industries that are seen as desireable are like this, just look at the music or movie industry. It's nothing specific about wrestling, it's about men being able to abuse power.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:53 |
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Rarity posted:All male-dominated industries that are seen as desireable are like this, just look at the music or movie industry. It's nothing specific about wrestling, it's about men being able to abuse power. The exact same thing is happening, in that people are coming forward and sharing their stories of abuse, in the stand up comedy and game streaming/esports/game youtube scenes right now.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:58 |
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Jervis is back to try to take advantage of the situation after himself being outed recently. https://twitter.com/GentlemanJervis/status/1274899344987062272 https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCir...ntent=post_body
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 13:59 |
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gently caress every motherfucker who likes to cosplay old tyme gentleman crap with mustaches and stuff
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:02 |
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:The exact same thing is happening, in that people are coming forward and sharing their stories of abuse, in the stand up comedy and game streaming/esports/game youtube scenes right now. comics too
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:03 |
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Cavauro posted:gently caress every motherfucker who likes to cosplay old tyme gentleman crap with mustaches and stuff What about the Butcher
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:04 |
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not a gentleman
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:04 |
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So Joey Ryan's kind of a monster, huh?Gumball Gumption posted:This is weird and you're not going to get an answer that clean. Wrestling is attractive to predators because it's fairly unregulated, no one outside of wrestling takes it seriously, and apparently things like "17 year old girl lives with a house full of adult men" was considered socially acceptable. And that last part is big because it's going to make an environment serious predators are attracted to and an environment that tells people who are kind of edge cases "this behavior is cool and fine" when in a different environment they might of picked up how lovely it is and not escalate. Yeah lovely, insular, unregulated communities are cesspools and we've not been unaware that wrestling is one. People understandably try and quarantine it to this company or that company or this person or that person but the reality is that if they were the exceptions than the rest of the industry would do something about it. Its a poisoned culture and its always been one, and if you don't want to just burn it all down then you have to do this terrible, uncomfortable thing and call it out in every corner and heartbreaking way so that the roaches can't keep hiding. Light kills infection. Sometimes.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:07 |
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One thing that really sucks about this very specific time we're in is that there are going to be no crowds to try and voice their concerns or hold companies accountable. I'm sure there will be a lot of people who skate by in larger companies for whatever reason, and I feel like it's going to be easier for them to do so without a live crowd shouting them down each week. With WWE especially, I can see this being a real "win" in their minds because they can just keep their heads down and hope that this moment passes without them having to really act at all. I dunno. Maybe I'm too cynical and everyone will do what's right.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:10 |
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Ganso Bomb posted:One thing that really sucks about this very specific time we're in is that there are going to be no crowds to try and voice their concerns or hold companies accountable. I'm sure there will be a lot of people who skate by in larger companies for whatever reason, and I feel like it's going to be easier for them to do so without a live crowd shouting them down each week. With WWE especially, I can see this being a real "win" in their minds because they can just keep their heads down and hope that this moment passes without them having to really act at all. I had the same thought. On the other hand I'm not sure it's getting enough mainstream publicity to affect crowd perception and to be even more cynical I doubt a lot of the crowd would care.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:28 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:. I guess you're right. I was thinking about my uncle that was involved in an industrial accident with a head injury and he went from the nicest guy, to a total piece of poo poo after his recovery.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:28 |
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Imagine being a total monster piece of poo poo outside the ring and then making your entire gimmick revolve around people touching your dick. I mean the guy was basically hiding in plain sight for years.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:29 |
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History Comes Inside! posted:In context it was actually a "Ricochet looks like a girl" joke but that's obviously not any better. The reply was to Sasha and not Ricochet though. It's still up, because he's not a very smart man: https://twitter.com/sammyguevara/status/1274771630137450500 ShallNoiseUpon posted:The exact same thing is happening, in that people are coming forward and sharing their stories of abuse, in the stand up comedy and game streaming/esports/game youtube scenes right now. Yeah it's really blown up in the latter in about the same timeframe. Mixer it turns out is basically the British wrestling scene.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:33 |
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Orange Carlisle posted:Imagine being a total monster piece of poo poo outside the ring and then making your entire gimmick revolve around people touching your dick. I mean the guy was basically hiding in plain sight for years. i only came back to wrestling 6 months ago and when investigating things I had missed, i saw that Joey Ryan was some poo poo hot thing in the indies and literally all i saw was the most skeevy looking dude doing the most dumb assed self aggrandizing gimmick ever and i basically don't even know if he's good in the ring because i never wanted to watch anything beyond one of the dumb dick spots
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:34 |
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IceAgeComing posted:One thing that someone mentioned on twitter: when you look at the dudes who seem to be the most vocal about the Speaking Out stuff in terms of amplifying voices and trying to help people: its the next generation mostly. Dan Moloney, who's been the loudest voice, is only 23: Joe Nelson has been vocal as well and he's loving seventeen years old: still basically a child. I don't think his age is public but Michael Oku surely isn't that old either; and he's there taking on a management role in Progress now. Hell the main person leading the push overall is Sierra Luxton and she's only 21. This can be seen in two ways: hopefully its evidence that the next generation have a load of good eggs in it and that if they get into positions of power and responsibility things will get better: but also an indictment on the previous generation that with a few exceptions (Pete Dunne ought to be mentioned as one of them) they've been silent and almost forced them into these leadership positions rather than doing what veterans should do if they were clear in themselves that they were innocent. I think there are two things going on: 1. The kids were raised better than we were. I remember what was acceptable when I was in high school or my early 20s. It was bad then and it’s bad now, it’s just that only now does it get called for what it is. 2. Related to the above, but also simply as a function of their age, the kids don’t have the same baggage. I think you would have a hard time finding someone in their mid 30s or older who hasn’t done or said some bad stuff. Personally, there was a night when I was about 21 where I got roaring drunk and just wouldn’t stop hitting on a coworker. At the time I thought it was funny and laughed about it with all my colleagues. It was creepy and wrong and one of the moments in my life I really regret. Other than that, I’ve said or joked about some vile poo poo. These days I try really hard to be a good role model and stand against the way I used to act, but I’m tainted. Based on how I remember everyone else acting back then too, I think there are lots of mid 30s folks with the same history, especially wrestlers. The vets aren’t talking because either they don’t care or because they are or feel complicit. Even the “good ones” have baggage.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:34 |
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its a cancer that runs through all of society. this just from today: https://www.smh.com.au/national/high-court-inquiry-finds-former-justice-dyson-heydon-sexually-harassed-associates-20200622-p5550w.html
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:39 |
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Cavauro posted:not a gentleman explicitly a Violent Gentleman https://twitter.com/violentgents/status/489087932905443330
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:41 |
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smarxist posted:i only came back to wrestling 6 months ago and when investigating things I had missed, i saw that Joey Ryan was some poo poo hot thing in the indies and literally all i saw was the most skeevy looking dude doing the most dumb assed self aggrandizing gimmick ever and i basically don't even know if he's good in the ring because i never wanted to watch anything beyond one of the dumb dick spots I've been following for a long time now and have this exact same experience with Joey Ryan. I guess I never "got" it and was baffled by Hangman Page talking about their feud. Also, I wonder if that Sammy clip would've resurfaced if he never posted that Sasha tweet. I'm guessing that triggered a "hey that sounds familiar".
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:42 |
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ShallNoiseUpon posted:The exact same thing is happening, in that people are coming forward and sharing their stories of abuse, in the stand up comedy and game streaming/esports/game youtube scenes right now. The stand up comedy scene looks like the 80's wrestling scene, it's disgusting.
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# ? Jun 22, 2020 14:44 |