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adoration for none posted:Make sure the dice is only fibonacci numbers! Just lol if your company hasn't dropped the mask entirely and made them count as "workhour estimates" "according to the average engineer"
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergei...gative-balance/ tl;dr 20-year-old college kid kills himself after Robinhood shows (erroneously) that he's $730,000 in debt
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Sage Grimm posted:Just lol if your company hasn't dropped the mask entirely and made them count as "workhour estimates" "according to the average engineer" We paid that consultant a lot of money. You just expect not to do exactly what he says regardless of how stupid it is?
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Jun 19, 2020 12:33
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Tarezax posted:https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergei...gative-balance/ It wasn't erroneous, it was that the nature of his trades could cause a negative balance that far exceeded what would ever be collected for the period of time between the first option closing and the second option closing. For a platform that targets inexperienced traders though the lack of context is an absolutely horrific UI failure.
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pentyne posted:It's almost like Uber's CIO trying to dig up dirt on a rape victim to smear her and protect the company normalized this behavior. Execs acting like pieces of poo poo didn't start with Uber. A good notable one is a bunch of execs from Hubspot (including the CEO) extorting, threatening, and attempting to hack someone who wrote a mean book about them. The execs in question are all gainfully employed as execs elsewhere, of course. (The CEO isn't elsewhere and is still at HubSpot). https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...dwJI/story.html
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Jun 19, 2020 13:01
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blunt posted:It wasn't erroneous, it was that the nature of his trades could cause a negative balance that far exceeded what would ever be collected for the period of time between the first option closing and the second option closing.
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Jun 19, 2020 14:17
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Ruffian Price posted:Yeah, despite wanting apps to be made illegal and all tech CEOs jailed I don't really see Robinhood being at fault here. The guy was clearly looking for a suicide excuse that wouldn't cause his family too much anguish, didn't even read the docs or, I don't know, call his financial analyst cousin-in-law to ask what does the red number mean Maybe people don't think rationally when an app shows an erroneous negative balance in the hundreds of thousands in dark red? You could also pin this on Robinhood having non-existent customer support—no phone number, and an email system that takes weeks to give you a canned response. At the very best, this is extremely negligent UI design, given that Robinhood is targeted at people who, like Kearns, have no clue what they're doing.
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Jun 19, 2020 16:48
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Without necessarily suggesting that there should be charges per se, the potential effects of negligent UX need to be taken more seriously. Like Ragnar suggests, a design review that asks hey what is the psychological impact of displaying an enormous, negative red number to a young person (which is the computer knows) who doesn't have many assets (which the computer also knows) could save lives. It's also not exclusively the UX - what onboarding material was there? also even a loving video game will show a tooltip of some kind when a new type of information is presented
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Jun 19, 2020 17:38
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Planning out design issues before launch is the old way of engineering. Engineering today is all about moving fast and breaking things (peoples lives)
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Jun 19, 2020 23:51
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Marenghi posted:Planning out design issues before launch is the old way of engineering. Engineers have always moved fast and broke things, its just that lovely engineering gets forgotten about unless it kills a historically newsworthy amount of people.
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Jun 20, 2020 00:06
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Ruffian Price posted:Yeah, despite wanting apps to be made illegal and all tech CEOs jailed I don't really see Robinhood being at fault here. The guy was clearly looking for a suicide excuse that wouldn't cause his family too much anguish, didn't even read the docs or, I don't know, call his financial analyst cousin-in-law to ask what does the red number mean This is super loving gross
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Jun 20, 2020 00:57
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Snackmar posted:Without necessarily suggesting that there should be charges per se, the potential effects of negligent UX need to be taken more seriously. Targeting anti‐suicide features based on demographics is on‐brand for the tech nightmare.
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Jun 20, 2020 00:58
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OctaMurk posted:Engineers have always moved fast and broke things, its just that lovely engineering gets forgotten about unless it kills a historically newsworthy amount of people. Engineering is just science but you kinda half-rear end things and hope the real world doesn't care too much about those numbers you rounded.
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Jun 21, 2020 16:59
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Feinne posted:Engineering is just science but you kinda half-rear end things and hope the real world doesn't care too much about those numbers you rounded. Well yeah, we live in reality. You can't get perfect information on something, just information that you can determine to be good enough. Bench tests will only get you so far, and unfortunately regulations are written in blood. Sometimes a specific failure mode or issue doesn't crop up until it kills someone, and that's usually because something unusual was introduced (extreme conditions, strange use cases, poor manufacturing/maintenance, etc.).
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Feinne posted:Engineering is just science but you kinda half-rear end things and hope the real world doesn't care too much about those numbers you rounded. Science and engineering are the opposite of each other. Modern science depends on a lot of very sophisticated engineering, but the whole point is to conduct experiments on unknown things and push limits. In science, your experiments might have expected outcomes, but they'll never have known outcomes. Engineering is about taking the known limits that science has figured out, and using them to design things that won't break. In engineering, your designs had better be based on known, tested outcomes, or you're going to get sued. The world would be a better place if more engineers understood that they are not scientists.
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Jun 21, 2020 23:46
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And then there’s concurrent development.
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Can we apply agile to constructing buildings?
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Jun 22, 2020 00:23
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Can we apply agile to constructing buildings? Hyatt Regency, KC Hard Rock, NOLA Sampoong Department Store, Seoul
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https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1271849184627322885
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Jun 22, 2020 03:11
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Facebook is an instrument of fascism and nazism. Just like IBM.
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Jun 22, 2020 03:46
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Wondered what Marissa Mayer was up to. She's at a tiny startup shoehorning AI into stuff. https://www.lumilabs.com quote:At Lumi Labs, we see a tremendous opportunity to apply artificial intelligence to everyday, mundane problems: keeping contact information up-to-date, scheduling, making plans, forming groups for communication and sharing. All of these tasks are important, but they are tedious, repetitive, and error-prone when done manually — the perfect types of tasks for which to use AI.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Facebook is an instrument of fascism and nazism. Just like IBM.
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Bubbacub posted:Wondered what Marissa Mayer was up to. She's at a tiny startup shoehorning AI into stuff. doesnt normal tech already do boring stuff like this good? and mistakes being between the chair and keyboard?
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PhazonLink posted:doesnt normal tech already do boring stuff like this good? and mistakes being between the chair and keyboard? yeah, there's no reason to turn AI loose on things that are easily handled by scripts. there's no great technical achievement here, they're just shopping around for customers who want to save on labor costs by (poorly) automating away slightly more complicated office drudgery
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Let me guess, it requires all your data to be on their specific cloud based storage solution, and migrating either needs to be done manually or is a horribly broken automated process. Also, if it does get big, they don't have the security in place to prevent a data breach.
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Jun 22, 2020 20:26
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RIP Mixer https://twitter.com/BearUNLV/status/1275143945417142277
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PhazonLink posted:probably should check the LP forum, but has Mixer or Zuckgaming been particularly successful? It's had the lowest growth of any streaming service to date. I copied a graph of their market growth bit it's on my home pc.
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PhazonLink posted:probably should check the LP forum, but has Mixer or Zuckgaming been particularly successful? Since Shroud is called out as one of the two anchors - When shroud duos with his girlfriend (bnans) who is on twitch she jumps several thousand to have more viewers than him. Shroud used to have like 20k+ on twitch, now more like 4k. When they were streaming Tarkov on Saturday according to twitchtracker she had ~5500 when he had 3500. Before shroud moved to twitch she'd have more like 500 viewers. Facebook gaming might as well not exist.
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Jun 22, 2020 22:08
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Found it:
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The real crazy part of this story is how much money Ninja and Shroud were making: https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1275145243478892544?s=19
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Facebook is an instrument of fascism and nazism. Just like IBM. It’s important to call out Facebook employees though. Facebook is a collection of employees who choose to work for and support evil each day. They are all fascists, nazis, and white supremacists, or they’ve decided getting paid by fb is worth accepting any of those. Either way, they’re fascists, nazis, and white supremacists. Every single one of them.
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ketchup vs catsup posted:It’s important to call out Facebook employees though. Facebook is a collection of employees who choose to work for and support evil each day. Facebook has more nonwhite employees than white employees
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Facebook has more nonwhite employees than white employees They should rethink whether they want to continue working for a leadership team that isn’t required to provide a home for white supremacy on the Internet, but is extremely cool with doing so.
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adoration for none posted:The real crazy part of this story is how much money Ninja and Shroud were making: "Free agents" On a video streaming platform...  Do you think they could qualify for SAG SWG Union membership?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Facebook has more nonwhite employees than white employees This is like the take that was going around shortly after the murder of George Floyd that was like “You can’t say that all cops are bastards! Many cops are PoCs!”
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Platystemon posted:This is like the take that was going around shortly after the murder of George Floyd that was like “You can’t say that all cops are bastards! Many cops are PoCs!” I mean, is it actually valuable to view all the problems of the world as being the result of secret nazis lurking everywhere? The CEO is a jewish man and a majority of the employees are asian, there has been bad things in this world that aren't connected to nazis before.
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I remember going to a conference for PoC in tech last year hosted at the Facebook offices in Menlo Park, and one of the black employees did some slam poetry where he referenced Atlas Shrugged positively Draw whatever conclusions you want from this
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There are unfortunately a lot of Asian people who are on board with white supremacy. My mom told me about how a lot of people on chinese-language social media were posting that the murder of George Floyd was justified.
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