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tudabee
Jan 1, 2007

How many times must I remind you to WASH YOUR HANDS?

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i found it sorta darkly funny because half of those lovely movies they watch for that show lean heavily on rape for titilation/other poo poo and they have talked about how hosed up that those movies do that

Yeah I know why it was there and I'm not like, irate about it. It just wound up being several minutes of Rich saying he needs to find the sexual assault, gee golly it would be awkward to find a cover with rape. Just could have done without it, personally.

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Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Casey Finnigan posted:

At least in the United States context, this is not true in practice. Generally white conservatives view police as kindred spirits and vice-versa. Hence the Bundy family entering into an armed standoff against BLM (Bureau of Land Management) agents and getting off with a shockingly lenient sentence.

Whereas people who film police brutality end up dying of "suicide" a few months/years down the line in a burnt out car.

US police are pretty close to a straight-up violent white supremacist gang at this point, frankly.
As far as libertarians are concerned police should exclusively exist to enforce property rights and execute those who damage private property and nothing else. I mean give that libertarians are to a man pedophiles they kinda need that sort of lax law enforcement on other things.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

tudabee posted:

Yeah I know why it was there and I'm not like, irate about it. It just wound up being several minutes of Rich saying he needs to find the sexual assault, gee golly it would be awkward to find a cover with rape. Just could have done without it, personally.

yeah, it goes on for too long but thats sorta the point is to make rich look bad. i mostly found it boring because the movie choices were boring. i prefer the wheel of the worsts where they get weird kids poo poo or hosed up videos like ted bundy shooting ground hogs.

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

Medium post on Angry Joe. It's bad.

https://medium.com/@WookieMonsterTV/my-interaction-with-angryjoe-d715aedb0e02

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

The fact that this happened in spring of 2018, well after it became clear anyone can be called out on poo poo that they've done...

Like I'm guessing she's right when she says she's sure he's done this before and since, like he probably thought the movement was over by that point and nobody was gonna say anything about him.

Joe you hosed it up, you done hosed yourself all up.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020


Oh...Oh no.... :( This is horrible.

God drat you Joe. God loving drat it. I use to be a huge AJ fan. I bought Kingdoms of Amular (one of my all-time favorite games) because of his review. Another youtuber I use to like down the toilet.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It really shows how many people are total psychopaths and are only kept from doing horrible things by not having the means. Youtube microcelebrities seem like a fairly random sampling of otherwise unexceptional white people, and look at how many of them instantly become rapists and exploiters once a little money slips into their hobby.

Kay Kessler
May 9, 2013

It's not just him. He only got outed because people decided to speak out about a fuckton of twitch streamers being abusers for years. On top of that we've got the entirety of wrestling getting taken to task, and comics and gaming have had some big names called out (Warren Ellis for comics, Avellone for games).

And in all of these cases it's impossible to separate the art from the artist. Because these fuckers wouldn't have the power to do this awful poo poo if it wasn't for their respective art.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



excuse me but angry joe is an unexceptional person of colour. we've had multiple derails about this.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
lol yeah the color of your skin doesn't stop your youtube person from being rapey or a horrible person.

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010
Always got a weird vibe from AJ

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Angry Joe dealing with this in exactly the manner you expect from a guy named Angry Joe

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1274954309164294147

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1274957991272472577

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1274959558700683264

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1274963101549563904

https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1274968326024937472

Jamie Faith fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Jun 22, 2020

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

The sooner he talks to a lawyer, the sooner the lawyer can tell him to shut up on twitter and release a proper explanation that has some thought put into it. Cause this isn't helping at all.

Clerical Terrors
Apr 24, 2016

I'm so tired, I'm so very tired
I'm seeing a lot more people speaking up flying past on my timeline, it's heating up.

Calico Heart
Mar 22, 2012

"wich the worst part was what troll face did to sonic's corpse after words wich was rape it. at that point i looked away"



Captain Invictus posted:

Ah good, I'm sure it will be just as good as the power rangers revival movie

I'm king idiot so I double-billed that and the Emoji movie and I can honestly say from the bottom of my heart the Power Rangers movie was worse. At leastdisgust is an emotion. The PR movie was like waiting in line for something for two hours and occasionally being embarrassed by something.

e: I'm sorry I'm sorry please no derail I didn't mean it please

Calico Heart fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Jun 22, 2020

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Ghostlight posted:

excuse me but angry joe is an unexceptional person of colour. we've had multiple derails about this.

What the gently caress is this post

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Cryaotic was also outed (I think maybe again) yesterday as a sex pest, in this particular case grooming underage women because of course he did. I think the only one that's said anything from his circle was Dodger.

In funnier news, Jeremy Hambly is trying to pick on John Boyega because he's desperate for relevance.

https://twitter.com/JohnBoyega/status/1275003725661290496

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

Saagonsa posted:

What the gently caress is this post

someone a while ago tried to argue that jose vargas was white it white passing or something stupid like that

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Dawgstar posted:

Cryaotic was also outed (I think maybe again) yesterday as a sex pest, in this particular case grooming underage women because of course he did. I think the only one that's said anything from his circle was Dodger.

He wasn't even really outed, he literally posted a video admitting to it. It's baffling that there are still replies that are like "uhh where's the proof" in the twitter replies

Dodger said something but didn't specifically call out his name. I know she and Strippin both left their like youtube management group cause I think also the head of the group was outted too? Jesse Cox hasn't said anything specifically I don't think but I know one of the devs of Monster Prom is gonna be working on a statement and he and those devs are probably gonna be replacing Cry. Though I can't imagine that's difficult, there isn't a ton of voiced dialogue in that game.

Also Octopimp, who is also part of that group, literally did a pokemon gen 1 tier list with Cry like... a day before his video went out, so that's pretty awful timing.

ApeHawk
Jun 6, 2010

All the NPCs will look up and shout, "Do this quest!"
and I'll whisper, "Sure, why not."
So how long until Joe rejoins Doug and Brad?

In all seriousness, yeah, this really sucks to hear but not at all surprising given his demeanor when reviewing games. Hell, the encounter he had with Geoff Keighley over a small interview should've raised more alarms than it did.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wt4Q6AnhLk

Jim throws a log on the TLoU2 fire, especially about what Druckmann said about Shindlers List and his video game.

Archer666 fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jun 22, 2020

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo

Archer666 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wt4Q6AnhLk

Jim throws a log on the TLoU2 fire, especially about what Druckmann said about Shindlers List and his video game.

almost clicked on this until i realized how many times i would have to hear Jim Sterling say "triple A" in a funny voice if i did

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


The very beginning is exactly how I feel whenever game reviewers cream themselves over the newest big AAA game that tries to be serious.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Honestly, no one came out of that dumb Schindler's List looking great. The dude Schreier felt the need to publicly dunk on was a colleague inelegantly trying to compare his emotional response (not even the content) to a movie that, like it or not, has become shorthand for "good, sad thing."

Basically, never tweet.

A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Arist posted:

Honestly, no one came out of that dumb Schindler's List looking great. The dude Schreier felt the need to publicly dunk on was a colleague inelegantly trying to compare his emotional response (not even the content) to a movie that, like it or not, has become shorthand for "good, sad thing."

Basically, never tweet.

Actually I'm pretty sure almost everyone who took the time to dunk on the brainless cultureless jackass who compared a generic rear end dark and edgy game to Schindler's List came out looking great. What a loving prick. M They are so loving lacking in life experience they

- think that's appropriate
- think Naughty Dog's writing is that good
- can't even think of a less ubiquitous sad movie than Schindler's loving List

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


Sterling video was entertaining, it's more about games journalism reactions to triple A games than about TLOU2. It's just sneering at it though

The Chad Jihad fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jun 22, 2020

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
People write stupidly rapturous reviews whenever any new thing that's "dark and complex" comes out anyway so I'm not surprised. I don't really think The Last of Us needed a sequel though.

At times I wonder what people want out of games journalism. Yes, games journalism sucks.

Have you seen the state of... almost all other journalism? There's very little of it out there that doesn't suck.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


The only type of critic anywhere near as bad as game critics are TV critics.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

who criticizes the critics

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

wait i guess that’s what this thread is for

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Kay Kessler posted:

It's not just him. He only got outed because people decided to speak out about a fuckton of twitch streamers being abusers for years. On top of that we've got the entirety of wrestling getting taken to task, and comics and gaming have had some big names called out (Warren Ellis for comics, Avellone for games).

And in all of these cases it's impossible to separate the art from the artist. Because these fuckers wouldn't have the power to do this awful poo poo if it wasn't for their respective art.
Honestly makes me hope that other spaces can start calling out this poo poo (like DSA for instance)


Archer666 posted:

lol yeah the color of your skin doesn't stop your youtube person from being rapey or a horrible person.
Yeah it's like if someone has good politics/left; doesn't mean they can't be completely horrible/abuser/harasser

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Arist posted:

Honestly, no one came out of that dumb Schindler's List looking great. The dude Schreier felt the need to publicly dunk on was a colleague inelegantly trying to compare his emotional response (not even the content) to a movie that, like it or not, has become shorthand for "good, sad thing."

Basically, never tweet.

in the same way that that dude in the famous screenshot saying he didn't understand the holocaust until someone badly photoshopped a my little pony looking sad in, sure his colleague was being inelegant. It feels like that's a thought you keep inside, though, and maybe reflect on why 'misery porn where you have no agency but are blamed for the misery anyway' made him feel the same as one of the most famous example of tragedy in film where the entire point was all the suffering and cruelty was indeed avoidable.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


comparing a zombie apocalypse humanity are the real monsters revenge is bad story to a movie about the loving Holocaust is dumb as poo poo and the dude absolutely deserved to be relentlessly mocked for it and druckmann swooping in to fingerwag the guy who reported on his company's abusive working conditions is just embarrassing

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


This is stupid. People should be allowed to compare things to other things. They should be allowed to contextualize their emotional responses to media without having to think about what's sacrosanct. And if you're going to say "well, he didn't really contextualize anything, the format of twitter was a bad way to convey that message due to the imposed brevity," exactly. Never tweet.

e: It's a dumb comparison but who gives a poo poo? Policing other people's earnest emotional responses to media is just lovely imo.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012



Arist posted:

This is stupid. People should be allowed to compare things to other things. They should be allowed to contextualize their emotional responses to media without having to think about what's sacrosanct. And if you're going to say "well, he didn't really contextualize anything, the format of twitter was a bad way to convey that message due to the imposed brevity," exactly. Never tweet.

e: It's a dumb comparison but who gives a poo poo? Policing other people's earnest emotional responses to media is just lovely imo.

The gently caress? Nobody is saying you aren’t allowed to compare things to other things. The two posts directly before yours, for example; are very specific about why this particular comparison is not good.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Is Last of Us Part 2 any good? I'm of the mind that the first game had a good story but rather routine gameplay but I didn't see the need for a sequel. The media coverage of the first game made it out to be God's gift to interactive storytelling, which I found rather eye rolling, and the second game seems to be getting the same treatment. Has anyone here actually played it to give a somewhat less hyperbolic take on the game?

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
It's fine to compare any movie or game or whatever to Schindler's List, but also be aware that it's gonna be an unbelievably stupid comparison probably 9 times out of 10.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Arist posted:

This is stupid. People should be allowed to compare things to other things. They should be allowed to contextualize their emotional responses to media without having to think about what's sacrosanct. And if you're going to say "well, he didn't really contextualize anything, the format of twitter was a bad way to convey that message due to the imposed brevity," exactly. Never tweet.

e: It's a dumb comparison but who gives a poo poo? Policing other people's earnest emotional responses to media is just lovely imo.

Uhh no it's perfectly fine to mock someone for making a dumbass comparison.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

The Schindler's List comparison was mocked because it's the same energy behind the countless amount of Citizen Kane comparisons wrt video games. Even if it's said completely in earnest, if it's just a tweet instead of in a format where it can be elaborated on then you're gonna get put on blast for it.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

A Sometimes Food posted:

Actually I'm pretty sure almost everyone who took the time to dunk on the brainless cultureless jackass who compared a generic rear end dark and edgy game to Schindler's List came out looking great. What a loving prick. M They are so loving lacking in life experience they

- think that's appropriate
- think Naughty Dog's writing is that good
- can't even think of a less ubiquitous sad movie than Schindler's loving List

i agree but i think Schindler's List because thats weird and gross. id compare it more to a Steinbeck/cormac macarthy book type grimness.



Arist posted:

This is stupid. People should be allowed to compare things to other things. They should be allowed to contextualize their emotional responses to media without having to think about what's sacrosanct. And if you're going to say "well, he didn't really contextualize anything, the format of twitter was a bad way to convey that message due to the imposed brevity," exactly. Never tweet.

e: It's a dumb comparison but who gives a poo poo? Policing other people's earnest emotional responses to media is just lovely imo.

probably but it is a super dumb comparison and also terminally online twitter needs more flesh for the grinders.


anyway. i like Part 2 so far.

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