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parasyte
Aug 13, 2003

Nobody wants to die except the suicides. They're no fun.

Zereth posted:

Hey my PSO2 is borked where was that method for downloading it without windows store bullshit in it? That IIRC cleaned up your exisintg leftover files?

Follow this: https://na.arks-layer.com/tweaker-install.html

If you're lucky, once you get to the "Initial files have been downloaded" point you can skip to the next page and run the Powershell script and it'll detect and move your old install, and clean up any hidden backups at the same time: https://na.arks-layer.com/tweaker-setup-b.html
If you're not lucky you'll have to let the tweaker re-download everything.

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Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



how do I confirm that it cleaned up the backups

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I use Wiztree to see where all my storage is going? But I think the bloat is usually in like C:/program files/windowsapps/mutablebackup or something.

Zushio
May 8, 2008
I like WinDirStat for my file locating purposes. Is taking ownership of the install folder actually a good idea? In my experience, doing that to anything other than your basic Windows directory is a one way ticket to everything breaking. I know its usually the first trouble shooting tip that comes up, but I distrust the advice on a deep level.

Fat and Useless
Sep 3, 2011

Not Thin and Useful

Zushio posted:

I like WinDirStat for my file locating purposes. Is taking ownership of the install folder actually a good idea? In my experience, doing that to anything other than your basic Windows directory is a one way ticket to everything breaking. I know its usually the first trouble shooting tip that comes up, but I distrust the advice on a deep level.

If this has happened to you then your hard drive is already hosed so you may as well take control and do what Microsoft can't and fix it yourself.

The thing to trigger my hard drive meltdown was my internet randomly disconnecting for a minute which brought up a store window that wouldn't load so I force closed it and apparently that was enough to nuke everything into 300gb of hidden files as I struggled to get things working again not knowing about the powershell shenanigans that came out.

I feel for anyone who doesn't know whats going on like little timmy or grandpa internet who just wanted to play their anime space game. These people exist and are doomed to reformat if they even know how to do that.

Fat and Useless fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jun 20, 2020

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
i'm relatively Good At Computer and even i had a hell of a time fixing my broken install after the first patch, the average user is basically hosed. i'm not sure if MS just heavily prioritized the xbone version to the point of completely neglecting PC, if the Windows Store really is that awful, if some weird internal politics happened, or some combo of all 3. if this was a paid new release, people would be extremely pissed. MS is lucky this game is old and relatively niche in appeal, and even then it got a little article in Forbes.

unfortunately it's still really fun so i'm stuck here :negative:

Fawf
Nov 5, 2009

It's Me, It's Me, It's DDD

Zushio posted:

I like WinDirStat for my file locating purposes. Is taking ownership of the install folder actually a good idea? In my experience, doing that to anything other than your basic Windows directory is a one way ticket to everything breaking. I know its usually the first trouble shooting tip that comes up, but I distrust the advice on a deep level.

I think I got around needing to take ownership of the folder by opening up the mutablebackup directory within 7zip and deleting it inside there, and doing so hasn't caused any problems

This is also an aside but I'd look into Wiztree sometime, it's the exact same thing as WinDirStat but scanning takes a fraction of the time

brand engager
Mar 23, 2011

Started on my third install, but trying the out-of-store method this time 😔

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
Windows store really is that awful. The only reason it's getting attention now is because there are a bunch of nerds actually trying to use it.

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

So I'm wrapping up the Episode 3 story and the Photoners really suck.

For the story of Episodes 1-3 in general, has the extent of the PC's time traveling kind of been lost? Like, with the matter boards and story missions, you were able to travel back to certain important times and eventually take different paths/make different choices (I'm not missing having to replay missions until X point). The new story mode only has the second routes aside from saving Zeno. Which is a shame since that's a pretty big clue about Persona.

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
restarted on Ship 2, cause Ship 3 is basically empty already, and have been playing as a Gunner. is my basic game plan just get right up in poo poo's faces, blast away, and do a lot of backflips? it seems to work so far, but i feel like i'm missing something. also had really bad luck with Disc drops so far, probably has something to do with it.

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


Dr. Fishopolis posted:

Windows store really is that awful. The only reason it's getting attention now is because there are a bunch of nerds actually trying to use it.

I had like 40-60gb taken up by partial install files for some other game I tried to play off it, even after uninstalling they were still around. I only figured that out much later when I couldn't figure out why my SSD was overfull.

PepsimanVsJoe
Nov 16, 2007

Million Ghosts posted:

restarted on Ship 2, cause Ship 3 is basically empty already, and have been playing as a Gunner. is my basic game plan just get right up in poo poo's faces, blast away, and do a lot of backflips? it seems to work so far, but i feel like i'm missing something. also had really bad luck with Disc drops so far, probably has something to do with it.
My advice is to spend a bit of meseta and just buy the discs you want. Any disc below level 15 is guaranteed to be cheaper than dirt.

Here are my recommended photon arts:

Grim Barrage - It's cheap on the PP, closes gaps quickly, and beats running any day of the week.

True Equilibrium - Gunners are generally at their best at close-range, but this is still a wonderful PA for when you need some distance, but still want to do some damage.

Chronolapse - Once you unlock chain trigger, this PA is likely to be your main finisher. Get all up in the enemy's weakpoints and evaporate them with slow-mo matrix bullets.

Desperado Dance - A nice AOE attack that destroy crowds of weak enemies. However, you're vulnerable for pretty much the entirety of it. Gunslinger Spin is a good alternative.

Satellite Aim - All around solid PA for any situation.

Also, stay in the air as often as possible, and craft the ring that allows you do to forward flips.

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

Million Ghosts posted:

restarted on Ship 2, cause Ship 3 is basically empty already, and have been playing as a Gunner. is my basic game plan just get right up in poo poo's faces, blast away, and do a lot of backflips? it seems to work so far, but i feel like i'm missing something. also had really bad luck with Disc drops so far, probably has something to do with it.

When you go to the quest counter and select a mission, you can view a log of everything that has dropped for a period of time. The last page generally has discs but you can usually buy them on the market for pretty cheap if you don't wanna grind for a drop.

In Franca's Cafe, hit up the ring vendor to see what gathering materials you need to craft the S Roll Front ring. It lets you use stylish roll to go forward instead of only backward and to the sides.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost
Is there a good way to search for AC items on the player shop? I need to recycle some for a color pass.

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
awesome, exactly the info i was looking for! thanks guys

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

Nemo2342 posted:

Is there a good way to search for AC items on the player shop? I need to recycle some for a color pass.

There might be a better way but I search for cosmetics by price (outfits, outer wear, etc.) and then just look for the bright green AC item icon in the lists.

Hyper Inferno
Jun 11, 2015
I haven't been following the story very much, but the episode 2 quest "Day of Resurrection" got me interested.

It's really cool how the emergency quest objective is "eliminate (player character)" and the UI marker is stuck on your character for the first bit of the mission where all the other NPCs are trying to kill you.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
I highly suggest skipping the in-game story scenes entirely and just watching the anime: https://www.funimation.com/shows/phantasy-star-online-2-episode-oracle/

it's a decent anime in its own right and an overwhelmingly better way to experience the story.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

I highly suggest skipping the in-game story scenes entirely and just watching the anime: https://www.funimation.com/shows/phantasy-star-online-2-episode-oracle/

it's a decent anime in its own right and an overwhelmingly better way to experience the story.

I could not agree with this more. The anime is legitimately good, especially with what they're working with.

I've watched the anime first before playing in the in game story and basically everything done in the anime is handled in the lamest way possible in the game.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Is it only in Japanese? That's a bummer. At least tell me the Japanese is translated into the not-quite-there style of translated English that PSO2 is in.

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
most mid-tier anime is only japanese voice acting? and reading garbled rear end subtitles suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. plus it aired in 2016, even if MS and Sega had worked out the translation and publishing deal, it was way before the "mainstream" NA audience would care.

e: to clarify, i mean mid-tier in terms of budget, marketing, and studio push, not quality. lots of garbage gets all star voice casts.

Million Ghosts fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jun 22, 2020

Elephant Parade
Jan 20, 2018

jokes posted:

Is it only in Japanese? That's a bummer. At least tell me the Japanese is translated into the not-quite-there style of translated English that PSO2 is in.
I assume it has full subtitles or people wouldn't be talking about it

NextTime000
Feb 3, 2011

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Million Ghosts posted:

most mid-tier anime is only japanese voice acting? and reading garbled rear end subtitles suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. plus it aired in 2016, even if MS and Sega had worked out the translation and publishing deal, it was way before the "mainstream" NA audience would care.

e: to clarify, i mean mid-tier in terms of budget, marketing, and studio push, not quality. lots of garbage gets all star voice casts.

2016 was the other pso2 anime, this aired last year into this year

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
well look at that i'm dumb and don't know poo poo. kinda speaks to the "mid-tier" descriptor though. if it's that recent it might get dub money from Funimation when voice studios start back up, they're definitely more into that than most publishers.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Million Ghosts posted:

most mid-tier anime is only japanese voice acting? and reading garbled rear end subtitles suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. plus it aired in 2016, even if MS and Sega had worked out the translation and publishing deal, it was way before the "mainstream" NA audience would care.

e: to clarify, i mean mid-tier in terms of budget, marketing, and studio push, not quality. lots of garbage gets all star voice casts.

You're referring to PSO2 The Animation. Which is different from Episode Oracle.

Episode Oracle only aired a few months ago. It's on Hulu with full subtitles. I usually watch a couple episodes every day while knocking out my Arkuma slots for the day.

And honestly, I usually prefer dubs too but just get over yourself and read subtitles. I would bet that this will never get dubbed. 90%+ of anime never gets dubbed.

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
i'm not sure if you're referring to me or the guy who asked if the subtitles were a "not quite there translation" but i prefer subtitles in literally all media if possible and just get really pissy when they're half assed or bad. Netflix anime is horrible for it.

is there like a general strategy/flowchart/whatever i should be using at the Casino? i've barely touched it but gleaned from this thread it's less gambling and more timed payouts, or at least some games.

MR. J
Nov 22, 2011

Chuck and Fuck
Station Square has been drilled into my skull and the gottagofast chat thing mocks me by offering it in room disk form.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

MR. J posted:

Station Square has been drilled into my skull and the gottagofast chat thing mocks me by offering it in room disk form.

I set mine to Live and Learn, because who doesn't want a little buttrock while sending out their auxiliaries?

moosecow333
Mar 15, 2007

Super-Duper Supermen!
Killing the gold big boy seems like a good way to reach level 75.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost
These story quests that want you to take minimal damage to get S rank are kind of bullshit as melee.

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008

Nemo2342 posted:

These story quests that want you to take minimal damage to get S rank are kind of bullshit as melee.

Yeah, I've been picking my way through and have run into this a couple times. Does it matter? Can I just switch to casual for any particularly bad ones without missing anything?

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

You'll miss out on star gems and titles for not S-Ranking them on Hardcore.

Summoner basically trivializes most of the missions though since the enemies don't scale to your pet and if they're trying to fight your pink dog they aren't hitting you.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
I did the Corrupted Tunnels (which is locked to 80) story mission on Summoner at lv59. It uh, took a while, but I certainly did do it..

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

THE loving MOON posted:

Yeah, I've been picking my way through and have run into this a couple times. Does it matter? Can I just switch to casual for any particularly bad ones without missing anything?

It's just great when they suddenly spawn in a bunch of ranged enemies, or better yet suddenly lock you in a room filled with exploding barrels. My weapons are good enough to chew through anything that isn't a boss in a hit or two, but all the chip damage adds up.

I did somehow manage to S rank the 2.5 hour long mission in Episode 2 though, which is good because no way in hell did I want to run that a 2nd time.

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008
Yikes, that's annoying. I've been getting loads of Star Gems from going through the story for the most part, so I think I'll just go ahead and take the L if I don't manage an S rank going forward here.

Combat Lobster
Feb 18, 2013

Nemo2342 posted:


I did somehow manage to S rank the 2.5 hour long mission in Episode 2 though, which is good because no way in hell did I want to run that a 2nd time.

Man, I was pissed when they withheld 100 points just cus I didn't do the whole thing in one sitting.

Stanos
Sep 22, 2009

The best 57 in hockey.

Combat Lobster posted:

Man, I was pissed when they withheld 100 points just cus I didn't do the whole thing in one sitting.

This one can suck my rear end, I was actually watching the story because I was already vaguely invested but it started just wearing on me after a while. Why it couldn't have been like 3 parts is just beyond me. 2 hours is way too long.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
I'm not going back to that one for a measly 20sg or whatever you get. It was fine on casual.

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Hyper Inferno
Jun 11, 2015
A quick tip for people who want to make meseta today or generally when affix bonuses are active. If you're not sure what to hoard, a generally safe bet are units with 3+ slots with melee/ranged/tech iii. These sell for a pretty decent amount and aren't too uncommon to just randomly pick up when farming content of any difficulty.

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