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more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

forums poster

i can't remember the last time i saw artour play anything other than NP, naga, ursa, or TB

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IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Topson was interviewed and it's a neat insight into what happened with his hiatus and stuff.

https://write.as/sam-m/after-ti9-i-have-seriously-thought-about-retirement-an-exclusive-interview

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009
https://twitter.com/scantzor/status/1275164426111508482

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007



https://web.archive.org/web/20171116031149/http://nadota.com/showthread.php?24490-My-Apology-to-Sonya-and-all-the-Girl-Gamers-out-there

the post below grandgrants is worth reading to get some perspective on his apology today, given that it's from 2014.

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jun 22, 2020

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

one of their last tweets from this account

https://mobile.twitter.com/LlamaDownUnder/status/896069311382528000

Superrodan
Nov 27, 2007

NtotheTC posted:

https://web.archive.org/web/20171116031149/http://nadota.com/showthread.php?24490-My-Apology-to-Sonya-and-all-the-Girl-Gamers-out-

the post below grandgrants is worth reading to get some perspective on his apology today, given that it's from 2014.

This link isn't working for me, it feels like the end of the URL is cut off or something.

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

Super Rad posted:

Between Kyle's well thought out article and Nahaz's correct stance on the issue I'm getting serious "The worst person you know just made a great point" vibes. Now expecting EE to pen a masterclass essay on respect and consent using his favorite tsundere anime characters to drive the point home.

kyle and nahaz are both cool people idk how you could get a different view of them.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


Superrodan posted:

This link isn't working for me, it feels like the end of the URL is cut off or something.

sorry try now, i missed a bit when copying:

https://web.archive.org/web/20171116031149/http://nadota.com/showthread.php?24490-My-Apology-to-Sonya-and-all-the-Girl-Gamers-out-there

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

What the gently caress, is that seriously supposed to be an apology? Why are people like Zai replying with "Very well put and inspiring"?? Im losing my goddamned mind right now

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

https://twitter.com/Wickedscosplay/status/1275183593568919553

So we're going to learn a lot of horrible truths soon. Finally, with how unchecked esports loving are

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

If there was a court case it should be accessible right? At least Korok's was

Kild fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 22, 2020

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

nikosoft posted:

What the gently caress, is that seriously supposed to be an apology? Why are people like Zai replying with "Very well put and inspiring"?? Im losing my goddamned mind right now

to be fair, zai was 15/16 at the time. also, to be clear, its absolutely not supposed to be an apology. its a very clear and obvious insult.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

nikosoft posted:

What the gently caress, is that seriously supposed to be an apology? Why are people like Zai replying with "Very well put and inspiring"?? Im losing my goddamned mind right now

No it's sarcasm - tho idk the context

Superrodan
Nov 27, 2007

nikosoft posted:

What the gently caress, is that seriously supposed to be an apology? Why are people like Zai replying with "Very well put and inspiring"?? Im losing my goddamned mind right now

I think it's supposed to be him doubling down on being an rear end in a top hat with a title meant to stick it to the people who would legitimately ask him to apologize. That's how I'm reading into it, anyways.

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

jesus, grandgrant, what the hell

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
you would have to live under a rock to not know how grandgrant is (or at the very least was, probably seems more like still is). he was publicly an absolutely massive piece of poo poo for years.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007


at least the one universal constant of tobiwan being a fuckwit holds true during all of this

https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/726780187556220928


e: the comment chain under that tweet is basically him saying "just accept it lol"

Superrodan
Nov 27, 2007

Sampatrick posted:

you would have to live under a rock to not know how grandgrant is (or at the very least was, probably seems more like still is). he was publicly an absolutely massive piece of poo poo for years.

I honestly don't pay much attention to him. I do remember him (and BSJ maybe?) getting into trouble during some segment they did at the BTS house a long while back.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

Sampatrick posted:

you would have to live under a rock to not know how grandgrant is (or at the very least was, probably seems more like still is). he was publicly an absolutely massive piece of poo poo for years.

If only there was some accountability for the people who continuously hire, nurture, and shield these people :thunk:

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Grant didn't really get hired until after he quit drinking and, at least publicly, being an rear end in a top hat tho.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Ojetor
Aug 4, 2010

Return of the Sensei

nikosoft posted:

What the gently caress, is that seriously supposed to be an apology? Why are people like Zai replying with "Very well put and inspiring"?? Im losing my goddamned mind right now

It's a sarcastic non-apology. The NADota forums were a loving trash fire full of your typical teenage edgelords posting "ironic" racism, sexism, etc. Good riddance.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
Bye Grant. take zyori, mason, tobi and whoever else with you.

Tiger Millionaire
Jan 25, 2014

He'll eat your kids and fire your parents!
E:Nvm man's a full on rapist

Tiger Millionaire fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Jun 23, 2020

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
hoping this will inspire people in other esports go speak out and we can finally remove Phreak from league of legends stuff forever

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice
I genuinely liked Grant too, but even if these things happened in the distant past and you've changed since then, you don't need to wait until you get called out to reach out and try to make amends.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Reality Protester posted:

hoping this will inspire people in other esports go speak out and we can finally remove Phreak from league of legends stuff forever

god if only

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

SEX PEST GET OWNED

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef

Sampatrick posted:

kyle and nahaz are both cool people idk how you could get a different view of them.

Good people, sure, they just have a way of being the least likable personalities of any panel they are on. Between Nahaz's tortured stats and mafia freakouts and Kyle's weird faux overconfidence and managing to be wrong with nearly all his predictions I think they have both, at times, rightfully been the butt of some jokes. In any case this situation along with others (Sheever's cancer comes to mind) shows that they are both leagues ahead of most people involved in esports in terms of maturity and perspective - hopefully their continued presence in the scene rubs off in all the right places, the past couple of days have really shown how badly it's needed.

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009

Kild posted:

Grant didn't really get hired until after he quit drinking and, at least publicly, being an rear end in a top hat tho.

Too bad he was still harassing people bad enough that they needed to go to court and he was still getting jobs.

All the while, some people on reddit think it's ok because the victim was a bad caster.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
I liked Grant and I'm sad that he was apparently a huge piece of poo poo.

I should try out for Dota caster if everyone currently employed is apparently a monster

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Skylar has been defeated. Liquid appear to be turning uh a bagel into a breadstick

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
Holy poo poo I just wanted to share that I'm on my quest to get as much lvls as possible like every year and then I read all of this. I really hope this promotes a healthier enviroment for all the female casters and the creepy guys get called out sooner.

Ps: I'm lvl 52!

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
the stuff about grant should not be a surprise to anyone. glad he has decided/been forced to gently caress off

Burginator
Sep 10, 2007

Two ALL BEEF patties,
Special Sauce?
Let Us Cheese.

violent sex idiot posted:

the stuff about grant should not be a surprise to anyone. glad he has decided/been forced to gently caress off

the only part that's surprising is that it took this long, he's loudly acted like a piece of poo poo for years

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

Burginator posted:

the only part that's surprising is that it took this long, he's loudly acted like a piece of poo poo for years

afaik he had legitimately turned over a new leaf after he stopped drinking/drinking so much but obviously that does not count as making up for what he had already done over the years

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

I liked Grant and I'm sad that he was apparently a huge piece of poo poo.

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

Just please don't let ODPixel, Slacks, or Purge end up being garbage.

Or really anyone else, but that's too much to ask for.

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RisqueBarber
Jul 10, 2005

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

I liked Grant and I'm sad that he was apparently a huge piece of poo poo.

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