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just a normal, responsible headline https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/1274924191221940224
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kidcoelacanth posted:just a normal, responsible headline Deleted.
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Jun 22, 2020 06:05
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What did it say?
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Jun 22, 2020 13:41
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Jun 22, 2020 13:51
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Oh my christ.
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Jun 22, 2020 14:00
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just embracing debate it’s unfortunate because they managed to produce a sort of okay article recently: https://deadspin.com/dan-carcillo-s...impression=true
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Jun 22, 2020 14:19
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I think that's just a very loose understanding of "inside job" because it's pretty obvious the noose came from someone employed by NASCAR right?
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Jun 22, 2020 14:32
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Yeah the article makes it clear that, "inside job" is supposed to refer to someone employed by NASCAR (which is the actual meaning of inside job), not Wallace himself.
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Jun 22, 2020 14:40
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Patrick Spens posted:Yeah the article makes it clear that, "inside job" is supposed to refer to someone employed by NASCAR (which is the actual meaning of inside job), not Wallace himself. it’s just a poor choice of wording even if it’s technically correct because, going by twitter, a bunch of dipshits are taking “inside job” to mean “he or his team did it” because they keep responding with jussie smollett
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Jun 22, 2020 15:05
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I thought the meaning of the headline was pretty obvious, given the Deadspin byline.
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Jun 22, 2020 15:07
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BWV posted:I think that's just a very loose understanding of "inside job" because it's pretty obvious the noose came from someone employed by NASCAR right? its the garage paddock so usually NASCAR officials or team members are allowed back there, but you also have track personnel (who may or may not be NASCAR) and safety personnel as well (security medical, etc) its all monitored by cameras though (Talledega is an ISC track and thus technically owned by NASCAR but NASCAR races on a lot of non-ISC owned tracks too)
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Jun 22, 2020 15:14
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The picture of someone supporting BLM under the headline "INSIDE JOB" definitely conjures up the idea this was a false flag or something. The article is clear it means within NASCAR and there isn't anything objecitonable in the article. Either the guy who made the caption didn't realize this or was trying to make some clickbait.
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Jun 22, 2020 18:25
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Lockback posted:The picture of someone supporting BLM under the headline "INSIDE JOB" definitely conjures up the idea this was a false flag or something. The article is clear it means within NASCAR and there isn't anything objecitonable in the article. Either the guy who made the caption didn't realize this or was trying to make some clickbait. It doesn’t if you’re familiar with this iteration of Deadspin
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Jun 22, 2020 18:44
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General Dog posted:It doesn’t if you’re familiar with this iteration of Deadspin if you're familiar with this iteration of deadspin it means you read it which I dont think anyone does
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Jun 22, 2020 18:47
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General Dog posted:It doesn’t if you’re familiar with this iteration of Deadspin What do you mean by this? I don't really read them but the stuff posted here makes me think they are trying to ape the old deadspin poorly. The article about the UFC fighter with "Man beats man instead of woman" seems like it was trying to ridicule the fighter, not be some barstool esque apologizer.
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Jun 22, 2020 19:00
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deadspin’s new brand (and old brand if you’re of a certain demographic) is performative wokeness and mock outrage they can’t write very well but they do get real orneryish
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Jun 22, 2020 19:03
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Declan MacManus posted:deadspin’s new brand (and old brand if you’re of a certain demographic) is performative wokeness and mock outrage
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Jun 22, 2020 19:15
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FMguru posted:Their new brand is also "bad, unclear writing" and "incorrect headlines" I just went through some things on their site and it's getting somewhat better. Still pretty pedestrian though I didn't see any of the horrendous headlines like they had when they first relaunched. "Performative Wokeness and mock Outrage" is a really good descriptor though. Lacks a lot of the pithyness that old deadspin had.
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Jun 22, 2020 19:20
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Declan MacManus posted:deadspin’s new brand (and old brand if you’re of a certain demographic) is performative wokeness and mock outrage It's this. They've tried to copy the anger but can't replicate whatever hints of levity and ironic detachment that made the old version largely tolerable.
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Jun 22, 2020 19:41
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"this isn't amateur hour," bill simmons said, "this is the fucken subway fresh take hotline"
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Jun 22, 2020 23:50
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I feel bad for never completing my Bill Simmons Choose Your Own Adventure from a few years ago
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Jun 22, 2020 23:54
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A revealing thread https://twitter.com/dave_schilling/status/1275192754792853505?s=19
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Jun 23, 2020 00:15
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General Dog posted:I feel bad for never completing my Bill Simmons Choose Your Own Adventure from a few years ago Just take what you have already and add even blander choices than before
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Jun 23, 2020 00:17
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wrong thread
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Jun 23, 2020 00:21
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BWV posted:A revealing thread Seems like a bit of a nothing burger, but there is something a bit poetic about Simmons being in charge and getting publicly griped at the same way he did with his ESPN bosses for years.
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Jun 23, 2020 00:26
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The loving nerve to pull the "this is a business, not open mic night" card to waive away not featuring black and brown voices on podcasts when you regularly give high profile guest slots or entire podcasts to your wife, children, father, and multiple college friends, the most interesting of whom's main draw is "sometimes eats more food than a normal person would." And when you gave the biggest producer role to your barstool reject/union busting SoundCloud rapper nephew
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Jun 23, 2020 01:11
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I didn’t see that part in the Times article
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Jun 23, 2020 01:17
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Thank you MV for reminding me of the real person known as Bill Simmons’ union-busting SoundCloud rapper nephew.
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Jun 23, 2020 01:19
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General Dog posted:I didn’t see that part in the Times article quote:Mr. Simmons said by email that the company needed to spotlight its best podcasters. “It’s a business,” he said. “This isn’t Open Mic Night.” The spokesman said the company was creating new opportunities for young staffers.
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Jun 23, 2020 01:26
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The thing I keep coming back to with Simmons is that he felt the need to crowbar his rear end into the Boomerang Rewatchables episode, and it's just "no Bill, your name really isn't Kareem Abdul Simmons(or whatever it was, I don't feel like digging out my copy of The Book or Basketball), we do not need your take on Black culture."
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Jun 23, 2020 01:27
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lol Leave it to the professionals like my good friends Jimmy the Hat and Dump-rear end
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howe_sam posted:The thing I keep coming back to with Simmons is that he felt the need to crowbar his rear end into the Boomerang Rewatchables episode, and it's just "no Bill, your name really isn't Kareem Abdul Simmons(or whatever it was, I don't feel like digging out my copy of The Book or Basketball), we do not need your take on Black culture." It's also telling how on the rare occasion they do feature a black voice on a podcast it is always a bigger outside name rather than giving a shot to someone who actually works for them.
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MourningView posted:It's also telling how on the rare occasion they do feature a black voice on a podcast it is always a bigger outside name rather than giving a shot to someone who actually works for them. They did have Justin Charity and Michah Peters do a Recappables run on Evangelion
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I think it would be more fair to say Justin Charity and Micah Peters snuck into the studio and recorded four episodes about Eva tbh. Those Recapables episodes had a real "holy poo poo they let us do this?" vibe to them. Now they recently launched that Higher Learning podcast, the new guy they brought in for Ringer FC, so they're getting better, but in general Simmons seems to like to find A Black voice for any given topic, and then surround that person with a bunch of dudes named Kevin. Plus, like Jemele Hill points out, the leadership at The Ringer is still lily white and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Not to downplay the diversity concerns, but does Jason Conception not count as a person of color? He certainly seems to be a valued personality for the site.
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I would actually listen to a Ringer podcast if Bill was on the Evangelion episodes
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General Dog posted:Not to downplay the diversity concerns, but does Jason Conception not count as a person of color? He certainly seems to be a valued personality for the site. Sure, he and Shea both do and they're great but they're basically the only minority voices who regularly feature on the high profile shows. Also the specific concern is a lack of black voices, which is pretty galling when you build so much of the website around a league that is 75% black
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General Dog posted:Not to downplay the diversity concerns, but does Jason Conception not count as a person of color? He certainly seems to be a valued personality for the site. He absolutely counts, as does Shea. But there again, how many other Asians are on the staff? How many other Mexicans? How many are in positions of leadership in the company are there? Saying "well we've got one of everyone" is better than nothing, but you can't stop there. e: Or what MourningView said.
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The "open-mic" line is too funny. I can't think of a single person I associate more with just throwing anyone on a podcast. The guy practically invented "but first, here's my pal/cousin who happens to be an expert because he once lived somewhere. "
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